Brahmins.

I recently read that the Brahmin Priestly class used to be Butchers who slaughtered meat for ceremonial purposes. However, due to a shortage of cattle in ancient India this was outlawed and they adopted vegetarianism and promoted it. How true is this hypothesis?
http://free.freespeech.org/india100/rama.htm

Ibrahim says; The term “Brahmin” would be the followers of Prophet Epram which was later changed to Prophet Epraheem /Ibrahim/Abraham ( pbuh)

This is similar to the Followers of Prophet Eesa (pbuh) calling themselves Christians .

What Generally happens is that they were called the “Believers” ( Muslims) but as they evolved they altered their teachings and hence God chose another set of people and re established the truth with the new group whilst rejecting the earlier group Hence the later group became known as Muslims with a revealed book entrusted to them . Since there was a now conflict of interest between the earlier set of Muslims and the newly established Muslims, the earlier group chose a name that best described themselves out of pride to remain separate from what has been newly established by Allah (swt)

In this manner those who followed Prophet Ibrahim {pbuh} ended up branding themselves as Brahmins and those that followed Christ ended up branding themselves as Christians even though they were originally called Muslims at the time the message was kept intact by its followers, and the true believers remained known as “ Muslims “ all the time.

** In answer to your question , it is true that meat was approved for the followers of prophet Ibrahim (pbuh} with some exceptions just like Muslims. As mentioned in http://free.freespeech.org/india100/rama.htm **

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However, due to a shortage of cattle in ancient India this was outlawed and they adopted vegetarianism and promoted it. How true is this hypothesis? [/qyuote]

** This is untrue ** since the Prophets prior to Prophet Nuh ( pbuh) were all vegetarians and the approval for the consummation of meat was only approved after the flood . hence those Hindus who believed only vegetarianism was approved for mankind are still stuck with the laws of the Vedic religion as it is known today by the Hindus, that had been practiced by Prophet Adam (pbuh) and his children right up to Prophet Nuh (pbuh)

This can be proven by the use of the Bible and the Qur’an which provides conclusive evidence for them.

Read

Genesis 9

  1. Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth.

  2. ** The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air,** upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; ** they are given into your hands. **

  3. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. ** Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. **

Qur’an

23.28 And when thou hast embarked on the Ark - thou and those with thee,- say:
“Praise be to Allah, Who has saved us from the people who do wrong.”

23.29 And say: “O my Lord! enable me to disembark with thy blessing: for Thou art the Best to enable (us) to disembark.”

23.30 Verily in this there are Signs (for men to understand); (thus) do We try (men).

23.31 ** Then We raised after them another generation. **

Ibrahim says; Hence the earlier generation and its laws were abolished , the new generation that had a new set of laws came only after Prophet Nuh (pbuh) after the flood and the Leader/head of this new generation is Prophet Epraheem/Ibrahim (pbuh)

Hence the consumption of animals ( meat) was approved only after prophet Nuh (pbuh) , which the Hindus have failed to realize.
Hope this helps……..

Wadi, that's one of the theories about the sacrd cow! Hopefully our Hindu guppies can say a little more about it.

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Ibrahim says; The term “Brahmin” would be the followers of Prophet Epram which was later changed to Prophet Epraheem /Ibrahim/Abraham ( pbuh)
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Interesting. Do you have proof regarding this?

Ibrahim a very interesting post. Two things I wuold like you to expand upon.

1) I've never heard of Brahmins being followers of Prophet Ibrahim. Can you please give some proof or links that support that claim.

2) The Ancient Prophets used to be all vege's? I haven't heard of that either.

If those two claims are true than thanks for some very enlightening information.

Ibrahim says; That’s for sure anyone who goes round revealing such things is going to be slammed against the wall and likely be killed . But this facts are based on the Hindu scriptures and researchers are unraveling this matters in this current time frame and although earliest info about the correlation of eastern myths being mixed with other religions and originating from western religions were published as early as 1935, it is still being suppressed by Hindu fundamentalists. May take another few hundred years before this might get a foothold in their thoughts.

Ibrahim says; this is based on tracing the identity of Brahma, hence when one realizes that Brahma had an abode which was described in detail in the hindu scriptures and that abode has been traced as the Ka’bah, it becomes undeniable that Brahma is actually alluding to prophet Ibrahim (pbuh) .

** Atharva Veda X, 2, 28: [On Ka’bah]

Whether it is built high, its walls are in a straight line or not, but God is seen in every corner of it. He who knows the House of God, knows it because God is remembered there. **

The Ka’bah is not exactly cubical and its sides are not of the same length. The Holy Sanctuary (Haram) of which Ka’abah is at the center remains open day and night throughout the year and it is always filled with people praying to Allah (the One True God). Muslims face toward it during prayer forming circle in the Haram (Holy House) and the circle extends out in this manner throughout the planet Earth.

**Atharva Veda X, 2, 31:[On Holy Sanctuary (House) and Ka’bah]

This abode of the angels has eight circuits and nine gates. It is unconquerable, there is eternal life in it and it is resplendent with Divine light. **

The holy sanctuary (Haram) of which Ka’bah is at the center remains open day and night throughout the year and it is always filled with people praying and supplicating to Allah (the One True God). It has remained unconquerable. Abraha Al-Ashram, the Abbysinian viceroy of Yemen, tried to demolish it in 570 CE with a strong army and hordes of elephants but was prevented from entering the city (Holy precinct). The people of Makkah had decided not to defend the Ka’bah, fled the city and took refuge in nearby hills overlooking Ka’bah. By Allah’s Command, the ‘Abaabeel’ (flying creatures, birds) pelted stones at Abraha’s army and decimated it, leaving them like green crops devoured by cattle. This incident is described in the Surah (chapter) 105 of the Qur’an. The year 570 CE is popularly known by the Arabs as ‘The year of the Elephant,’ and Prophet Muhammad was born in that year.
Dr. Vidyarthi points out the following facts. The House of God has nine gates - Baab-e-Ibrahim (Abraham) , Baab-al-Wedaa, Baab-as-Safa, Baab-e-Ali, Baab-e-Abbas, Baab-un-Nabi, Baab-as-Salaam, Baab-az-Ziyarat, and Baab-e-Haram. Further, the eight circuits are the natural lines enclosing the areas between the surrounding hills, the names of which are: Jabal-e-Khaleej, Jabal-e-Qaiqaon, Jabal-e-Hindi, Jabal-e-Laalaa, Jabal-e-Keda, Jabal-e-Abu Hadidah, Jabal-e-Abi Qabees, and Jabal-e-Umar.

**Atharva Veda X, 2, 33: [On Abraham and more on Holy Sanctuary and Ka’bah]

Brahma (Abraham) stayed in this abode which is illumined by heavenly light and covered with Divine blessings. It is the place that gives (spiritual) life to the people and is unconquerable. **

The Ka’bah was built by Prophets Abraham and Ismail. It has remained unconquerable as explained in the preceding verse. Many verses of the Holy Qur’an and of the Old Testament in the Bible describe the divine blessings in this Holy house.

In addition to texts found in the veda, the under mentioned texts found in the SVETASVATARA UPANISHAD goes one step further to establish the Ka’bah as the house of God ( as it was known in the past)

chapter 3:

  1. Separate from all the senses, yet reflecting the qualities of all the senses, ** it is the lord and ruler of all, it is the great refuge of all. **

  2. The embodied spirit within the town with nine gates, the bird, flutters outwards, ** the ruler of the whole world, of all that rests and of all that moves. **

  3. ** Grasping without hands, hasting without feet, he sees without eyes, he hears without ears. He knows what can be known, but no one knows him; they call him the first, the great person . **

hence the City called ** Navadvaare Pure ** = in the place where there are nine gates , has been clearly identified as the Ka’bah in Makkah.

Now the question is why would the hindu scriptures have such mention of the Ka’bah if they were actually considered an eastern religion having no relation with Islam?

For a full treatment of some hindu scriptures and their relation to Islam kindly visit http://www.islam-mauritius.org/hindunislam.htm

Ibrahim says; The bible verses I quoted earlier plus evidence of who the 14 Manus are in hindu scriptures fully attest to the fact that the 7th Manu in Hinduism was prophet Nuh ( who was saved from the flood by a fish—according to hindu mythology) . Animals were forbidden from consumption prior to Prophet Nuh (pbuh) and hence all earlier Prophets had to be vegetarians.

Ibrahim u have some infos to support ur views on this.but i have a very simple question to ask to u…do u know all most all the hindu epics and other scripts hadbeen written long before the concept of islam was originated?

if ur answer is `yes'then we can arrive in this conclusion....islam is a modern phase of hinduuism....

… am i right?

brahmins ate meat and even beef during vedic times. many historians say so. vegetarianism is legacy of buddhism and jainism which came later. when hinduism assimilated these religions, brahmins also adopted vegetarianism.

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brahmins ate meat and even beef during vedic times. many historians say so. vegetarianism is legacy of buddhism and jainism which came later. when hinduism assimilated these religions, brahmins also adopted vegetarianism.
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         one such example is pandavas story when a crow tried to eat the fishes they caught.......


 but i am not sure whether influence of Budha or Jaina refrained them from eating meat....

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** one such example is pandavas story when a crow tried to eat the fishes they caught.......

 but i am not sure whether influence of Budha or Jaina refrained them from eating meat....

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pandavas were kshatriyas, fighter class. they have always ate meat. only brahmins turned vegetarian (except bengali brahmins, who, for whatever reasons, declare that fish is vegetarian)

Wow! Abrahram was a hindu? that's great, how many other prohets were hindus?

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Wow! Abrahram was a hindu? that's great, how many other prohets were hindus?
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perhaps a corrollary (contradicting though) of saying "Hindus were followers of Abraham before they modified their religion".


We oughta be Changez like, don't we?

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Originally posted by Changez_like:
** perhaps a corrollary (contradicting though) of saying "Hindus were followers of Abraham before they modified their religion".

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Wow, so all the religions that sprouted from Abraham are actually based on hinduism.

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Originally posted by mr.great:
Ibrahim u have some infos to support ur views on this.but i have a very simple question to ask to u....do u know all most all the hindu epics and other scripts hadbeen written long before the concept of islam was originated?
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Ibrahim says; Not so, you see there was ONLY one religion that was sent by the ONE Creator , that was revealed to mankind through numerous messengers and prophets but man did chose to alter it , when they did such things they ended up naming it as Vedic religion aka Brahmanism aka Hinduism, By one set of people and another set people ended up naming it Judaism and Christianity.

Hence the original religion that was revealed to mankind was Islam ( submission to the Creator ) could have been known by different names in different languages at different time frames but basically the principals were the same.

What the altered Hindu scriptures conveys in principal concerning the Creator are basically what Islam also conveys, the reason for the misconceptions are due to later alteration and corruption of revealed texts.

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if ur answer is `yes'then we can arrive in this conclusion....islam is a modern phase of hinduuism.... ................ am i right?/
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Ibrahim says; No, Islam is the original scripture and message and Hinduism is the altered and deviated teachings that had its origin in Islam.

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** Ibrahim says; No, Islam is the original scripture and message and Hinduism is the altered and deviated teachings that had its origin in Islam.

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According to you. Does the quran mention that? Does the Quran mention Hinduism or Buddhism specifically or is it just talking in vague generalities, like Nostradamus?

Ibrahim says; Not so, you see there was ONLY one religion that was sent by the ONE Creator , that was revealed to mankind through numerous messengers and prophets but man did chose to alter it , when they did such things they ended up naming it as Vedic religion aka Brahmanism aka Hinduism, By one set of people and another set people ended up naming it Judaism and Christianity.

Hence the original religion that was revealed to mankind was Islam ( submission to the Creator ) could have been known by different names in different languages at different time frames but basically the principals were the same.

What the altered Hindu scriptures conveys in principal concerning the Creator are basically what Islam also conveys, the reason for the misconceptions are due to later alteration and corruption of revealed texts.


How do you know that only one religion was sent by one creator, or that if Islam is the final version of that religion. If you are basing this on the quran then others need independent proof. You can't use the quran to justify what is said in the quran. That's circular logic. That's like someone saying, "you'er wrong" Why? "because I said so" huh!

Ibrahim says; infoman, you seem to be lacking much info

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

. The notion that there was such a thing as “Hinduism” or “Buddhism” is due to your limited knowledge, such words and conceptions are recent innovations (labels) and not something that originated from the Creator of the “Religion of Truth”

I have yet to come across a scripture that actually “named its teachings” within its revelations, except Islam. meaning these labels that we use today for various religions actually came into use by its followers. Mind you if you take the word “Christian” for instance it was first used to indicate “slaves belonging to a great household” . Which subsequently was used by some people in Antioch ( acts 11:26) . The originator being the Prophet Eesa (pbuh) aka Jesus Christ, NEVER once called himself a Christian nor advised his followers to practice Christianity, What he taught was Islam and his followers were Muslims ( believers) .

In this manner if you want to be honest to yourself , find out what Hinduism means and when or where it originated.

As such, in answering your question, NO, I am not using the Qur’an, I am using all scriptures that mankind have come to believe as being “revealed”, to conclude as such. By the Grace of the Creator, I have access to and have knowledge about many scriptures ( Veda, Bible and Qur’an ) . What I am saying is that By the Grace of the Creator, I am providing information based on the essence of this teachings and not solely based on the Qur’an to which one can put his/her trust in due to its nature and intactness.

So you may wonder how would a “revealed scripture” address its followers ? If you were sensible, you will be able to conclude it can only say, “ believers” and address the rest as “Non-believers” and those totally averse as “pagans” . ** Revealed scriptures will not be talking about Hindus or Buddhist , since such labels did not exist at that time frame. ** Later revelations will talk about the Israelites (people who were entrusted with the scripture in Israel ) and Nasrani ( followers of Christ) who were originally “believers”( Muslims) but had deviated and labeled themselves otherwise, and all others will be termed as pagans or deviants ( hypocrites etc) , since they would have clearly be practicing paganism or willfully gone against the truth.

** As such, ORIGINAL scriptures will only contain the TRUTH and cannot have false labels mentioned in them. **

Ibrahim says; As I said above, I do not base anything ( when it comes to religion) on what some tom dick and harry said but on revealed texts ( scriptures) everyone of them in essence reveals that “the Creator is one”, meaning there is no other god except Allah ( God) and describes His attributes sufficiently such that we can make NO mistakes concerning HIM ( PS: Don’t argue it is not a “him”, since the Creator has no gender, the revelations are revealed in this format just so that we can understand and does not give imply that the Creator has a “ gender” by addressing the Creator as “Him”) .

** Now all scriptures in principal talks about only “one entity” and none other, as such anyone who believes his tribe, race or ethnic group has a separate creator that can be distinguished form the rest of mankind is an ignorant who did not understand the scriptures. **

Most of all Scriptures, reveals matters that could not have been conceived by a man at that time of its conception. Hence they are not something that man could have written at that time frame it is believed to have come into being.

Primarily, IF there existed another Creator, as some foolishly have concluded, it would indeed be a very difficult situation for the followers of each cult(religion), if, that cult’s creator (s) was to oppose the other. In other words, if one creator tried to dominate the other. We cannot imagine as to the sufferings we will have to endure on account of our alliances to one particular religion. ** One does not need to be religious to understand this. **

Than again, it would be absurd to imagine, that all this creators are in co-existence with each other and they are able to control only that cult or religion in which they are worshipped. ** Here we must consider the atheists, who have no creator or so they seem to indicate. **

So, when we apply our wisdom and the fact that " Truth stands out clear from Errors", we can clearly deduce that, there could only be ONE CREATOR, who had created all of mankind as well as all other life forms that dwell on this planet. ** We can further disclaim, the notion of many creators when we compare ourselves, we are fundamentally the same under the skin. **

Our differences in appearance, traditional practices and Communication methods cannot constitute that we are of different origin. ** Hence we can clearly see that we had been created by one source and we are affected by our location, desires and lifestyle more than anything else. **

Without doubt, the question on how many Creators, can only lead us to accept that, there ** can only be, ONE and no other. **

But why or how did we get so many Religions? If , indeed there had only been One CREATOR, surely our CREATOR would have only given us one Religion and way of Life for us to practice or fulfill in order to comply with HIS wishes.

** The One Creator would have revealed ONLY one scripture and this was indeed the case but Man due to his limited understanding, chose to interpret it in the way he felt most comfortable to do so, thus altering it in the course of time. Thus man by his own desires created sub religions from the one scripture that had been revealed to them.

** Out of eight main stream religions ( teachings / scriptures) I have had a chance to review

I have noted that :-

1). The only Religious Scripture, that had clearly mentioned, the process of our conception in the womb of the women, is the AL-Qur’an. No other scripture have these details, which have been accepted as the truth by science, which had been written 1422 years ago, when there were no instruments or medical history that enabled us to understand embryology. How such an information, came to be written by an uneducated Arab, living in an uncivilized place, is truly something that one should consider very very seriously.

** (This is just one of such, information, revealed only in the Al-Qur’an) **

2). The only scripture, that was written within the lifetime of the teacher and compiled within a short period and by his disciples who were actual witnesses to the teachings is the Al-Qur’an, which is also preserved in its original Language till today. ** The rest were compiled anywhere from 100 to 1000 years later by someone who had no personal contact with the original teacher and often when the actual language of the teacher has been lost, forgotten or no more in use. Generally it is strongly assumed that it was transmitted through one of the original disciples and often not in the actual language of the teacher but in a translated form, this translations, in other languages prevail and these copies are accepted as the originals today.** Here we need to note that, translation’s, can vary as each language can have its own peculiar meaning for a word and certain words would have no meaning in the other languages. Most of all if we are observant, we will note that, in most human communication systems a certain amount of body language is used to indicate certain actions and in some cases, certain actions can alter the meaning of a spoken word.

For instance, if we consider a messenger delivering a message, might have indicated certain actions by body language, which can never be expressed into words. This being the case, since many of the other scriptures were actually put into words by someone other than the teacher or the direct witness of the events. Hence , We must allow room for errors and omissions

3). The Only Religion, where you have NO Priesthood or HOLY Leaders, who had to be honored or who claim sainthood or even become exalted as someone greater than the rest or of some divine origin is practiced only in Islam.

4). The Only Religion, where all of mankind is considered equal ( NO Noble blood ) to each other, in the sight of the CREATOR, be he king or pauper is accepted only in ISLAM.

5). The Only Religion which does not demand from you to contribute your wealth, for its own prosperity is practiced in Islam. But Charity is to be given to the poor and needy, that is to your own brethren and not for the CREATOR, who had created everything, including your wealth and property.

6). The only Religion, where you submit to the CREATOR in the most humble manner of prostration, consistency and total submission is practiced only in Islam.

7). The Only Religion, where all who have accepted the truth, are instructed to assemble at a particular place at a particular time on a particular day, each year, is practiced in Islam. This as a duty enjoined to its followers once in his lifetime, so long as they can afford it by their own means.

8). The Only religion where Adultery, Crime, Drinking, Gambling and Morally unsound conduct is forbidden and punished is practiced in Islam only.

Just consider we will have no AIDS, Syphilis, HIV, Drunken Behavior, Theft, Violence or Adultery in a truly Islamic society.

9). The Only Religion where women, orphans, the poor, the weak, the needy are protected by scriptural laws is found in Islam.

10). The Only Religion, which forbids Religious Oppression of the unbelievers, is observed in Islam.

11). The Only religion, which tells us of the creation of Jinn’s, who are co-existing with us in this planet, is written in the Al-Qur’an. The powers these Jinns posses and their assistance to mankind is also mentioned, plus, how King Solomon with the assistance of these Jinn’s, managed to build the temple for God, by using such huge blocks of stone is also mentioned in the Al-Qur’an .

(All the wonders of the world, can be better comprehended, when we realize that the Jinn’s could have played a part in it) Which is also an indication and explanation for the numerous accounts of unexplained incidents in our daily life.

12). The Only religion, in which all of the earlier Prophets and messengers are respected equally and which links these prophets to the earlier scriptures, is the Islamic scripture.

Above points are just some of the characteristics of the “Religion of Truth”

This Religion (or way of Life) is known as the Religion of “Truth” and its final version is called Islam in the Arabic tongue. The Islamic scripture is a refinement of the earlier scriptures. If you have adopted its earlier versions, it is incomplete and could easily lead you into confusion and ** without doubt the earlier scriptures had indicated that , we will have to await the coming of a " Promised One, " called kalki, Saosthyos, Maitreya, Emmanuel, Messiah and Counselor , who will be sent**, when we are ready to accept that level of comprehension. ** We must further note, that a portion of the book, had been given to some nations, in their own language and when they were told that someone else will come, they had anticipated the arrival till today within their own circles,** but what we fail to perceive is that our CREATOR is not a racist and has no chosen sect or tribe that HE has favored within HIS CREATION. Whosoever obeyed HIS commandments and fulfilled their obligations as shown by the chosen prophet ( at that time frame, were all part of HIS favored creation. And most of all, ** if this promised one was to be sent to a tribe that had already altered its practices, he will immediately be rejected and condemned to death (Like the story of Christ), for he will be trying to promote something new, that will not be in conformity of what that tribe had believed as their original faith, as practiced by their fore fathers and transmitted to them in good faith (was the general believe of that faith). **

And since so many chapters of the book had been sent to mankind, who had altered it, beyond recognition and who have further coveted that knowledge as their own, restricting and abusing the rest for that grace, that they had been shown earlier, when they had fully kept the faith without altering anything of the scripture, ** the final message is indeed stern and firm, compared to the earlier messages. **

Why our CREATOR had given us HIS message in this way , can be more easily understood , when we consider ourselves. ** In addition to our sense of Pride, feelings of Jealousy, Greed, dominating nature and our ability to lie, act and deceive each other, we are fully capable of rejecting anything that we cannot comprehend and carry on rejecting even if we are able to comprehend , meaning, that we can deny truth knowingly ** .

Had it been our CREATOR’S will to establish HIS supreme authority over HIS creations, it would have been most simple and easy. But HE chose the rule of mercy and had given us sufficient wisdom, reminders plus a conscience and left us to come to our senses within our own lifetime. ** Everyone of us will be held accountable for our actions. (this is the meaning behind heaven ( Nirvana /Moksha) and hell ( naraka)**

Many are the generations that had been destroyed for their iniquities, that, they had practiced and their places of worship and dwellings have been left as a sign for mankind to witness and ponder over. But our current generation, seem to be cherishing this ruins as monuments of past glory and forgetting that those generations were destroyed and removed without a trace, for what they had practiced.

** Hence there is only one religion from the beginning and Islam ( submission to the Creators will) is its current name. This is not based upon one scripture but from the essence of all “mainstream” scriptures. **

in fact the Bible explicitly says:

(KJV Bible) 1st Corinthians 14: 33. **For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. **

Ibrahim says: Take note the Arabic word Islam has a secondary meaning, which is “Peace”, hence the Creator authored Islam ( Peace) for all churches of the saints ( meaning all Prophets and messengers taught the same thing from the same Creator. )

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Originally posted by mr.great:
** one such example is pandavas story when a crow tried to eat the fishes they caught.......

 but i am not sure whether influence of Budha or Jaina refrained them from eating meat....

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pandavas were kshatriyas, fighter class. they have always ate meat. only brahmins turned vegetarian (except bengali brahmins, who, for whatever reasons, declare that fish is vegetarian)**
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        u can not say khsatriyyas always ate meat...many khsatriyyas still do not take meat now too......

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u can not say khsatriyyas always ate meat...many khsatriyyas still do not take meat now too......
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Ibrahim says; Greetings of peace to one and all

mr. great, sadly that is not what your scriptures says.

maybe this will help you, get a better understaning of hinduism as it was....

*Cow Killing in Hindu Scriptures *

It is interesting to note that the cow used to be slaughtered by the Hindus to enjoy its beef, entertain the guests and offer it as sacrifice to their deities. Mahatma Ghandi himself said: "I know there are scholars who tell us that cow-sacrifice is mentioned in the Vedas. I... read a sentence in our Sanskrit text-book to the effect that ** Brahmins of old [period] used to eat beef." ** (M.K. Ghandi, 'Hindu Dharma', New Delhi, 1991, p. 120)

There are clear evidences in the Rig Veda that the cow used to be sacrificed by Hindus for religious purposes. For instance, Hymn CLXIX of the Rig Veda says:

"May the wind blow upon our cows with healing; may they eat herbage... Like-coloured various-hues or single-coloured whose names through sacrifice are known to Agni, Whom the Angirases produced by Ferbvour - vouchsafe to these, Parjanya, great protection. Those who have offered to the gods their bodies whose varied forms are all well known to Soma." (Rig Veda, CLXIX, trans. by Ralph H. Griffith, New York, 1992, p. 647)

In the Rig Veda, Agni is described as "fed on ox and cow" clearly showing that cattle were sacrificed and roasted in fire. Another hymn (Rig Veda X.16.7) mentions the ritual enveloping of the corpse with cow flesh before applying the fire on it.

In the Brahmanas at 1.15 in the Aiteriya Brahmana, the kindling of Agni on the arrival of Kind Some is compared to the slaughter of a bull or a barren cow on the arrival of a human king or other dignitary.

Similarly, at II.1.11.1 in the Taiteriya Brahmana and XXXI.14.5 in the Panchavinsha Brahmana, the rishi Agastya is credited with the slaughter of a hundred bulls.

In verse III.1.2.21 in the Satapatha Brahmana, ** sage Yajnavalkaya asserts that even though the cow is the supporter of everyone, he would eat beef "if it is luscious". **

At IV.5-2.1 in the same Brahmana, it is said that a barren cow can be slaughtered in the Same sacrifice. Not only for religious purposes, but also for other purposes one could kill a cow and eat beef.

Thus, at II.4.2 of the same Brahmana, it is suggested that a fat bull or fat goat should be sacrificed in honour of an important guest.

Similarly, the Brihadaranyaka Upanishadah (VI.4.18) ** advises a couple to take an evening meal of beef or veal pulao, if they desire to beget a son who is learned in the Vedas ** (Robert Trumball, 'As I See India', London, 1957, p. 241)

Ibrahim says: from the time of the 7th manu ( Prophet Noah (pbuh) , all of mankind had been given the green light to eat animals , with the exception of some , as revealed to them in their scripture.

the reason why todays hindus are agianst it is because they are still stuck with the teachings imparted to the 1st manu ( prophet Adam (pbuh) right up to the 6th manu who were all strict vegetarians.

Though Brahmins are Strict Vegetarians, Eating of Meat during sacrifice is prevalent. In the olden days, Yagas were performed for some collective benefit of the society. Some selected animals were fed some special herbs and grown and these animals were sacrificed. These sacrificed animals were consumed. But, the consumption is not to satisfy their taste buds, and the quantity was not to fill their stomachs.

People believe that such healthy grown animals sacrificed religiously help in giving a good health.