Re: Blood of scholars has no value in karachi
I agree with most of your post, but in the end I feel that you consider Barelvis to be muslims and have removed the other sects from the religion. Dont you think this is the exclusive right of Allah to decide?
There are good and bad people in all sects/madhabs, these people have been living together for the past thousands of years. What has happened now? I do not think that there are major differences between various sects. This is basically a proxy war between Iran and Saudia in which most of the Islamic world has become a theater. Having said that I believe we (the people of the affected countries) are also equally to blame as we do not try to debate with those having differing views, the easiest way out for the past many years to declare anyone who is different to be a kafir, mushriq or biddati.
Brother, you are absolutely right. No one have right to declare anyone non-Muslim, but exceptions are those who themselves confess that they are non-Muslim or those who do takfeer (and I explained the reasons for that in many of my past posts).
Actually, if you read my last 3 paragraphs carefully, you will notice that in my first paragraph I was talking about Deobandis and Wahabis not tolerating Sunni-Barelvis (and obviously, other Muslim sects). It was answer to the question asked.
In my second paragraph I questioned their (Deobandis and Wahabis) right to decide what other should believe or becoming thekadar of Islam based on their own beliefs and interpretations of Islam.
But in my last paragraph, I mentioned those who amongst them (Deobandis and Wahabis) are showing attitude of ignorance and thus are not only trying to become thekadar of Islam but are also trying to impose their version of Islam over others by force … and they are Takfeeries as it is only Takfeeries who use force to impose their version of Islam over others. (I am sure that all Deobandis and Wahabis do not show such ignorance what Takfeeries show, that other than becoming thekadar of Islam, they also use force to impose their version of Islam over others and in process create ‘Killings, Fitna and Fisad’ on earth)
Thus, in my last paragraph I intentionally used the word ‘Muslim’ and did not take name of any particular sect, as this ‘fitna and fisad’ created by Takfeeries are affecting not only Sunni or Shia, but all Muslims who would like to live peacefully and follow what they believe peacefully. Thus, if there would be any retaliation against this group, I would not like to pinpoint that retaliation from one sect or another but all sects combined (including peaceful Wahabis and Deobandis) and that is why I used the word ‘Muslims’ - in plural tense that includes all sects and ‘Muslim world’ in singular tense to show they are all one (as Muslims, if they would retaliate to save Islam and ‘Muslim world’ from killings, fitna and fisad, then my hope is that it would not be for saving their own sect but Islam itself … regardless of whatever the reality would or could be).
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mostly barelvis have one problem with wahabis and deobandis, that is they dont permit asking from graves i personally used to pray at mazars but alhmdullilah not now i do offer fatiha.
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Barelvis have no problem with Wahabis or Deobandis. It is Wahabis and Deobandis who have problems with Islam, Prophet (SAW), Muslims of past and present, practices of Muslims, and their resting places (Mazars).
What right Deobandis and Wahabis have to permit or not permit Barelvis or anyone regarding anything they would like to do?Is it, just because these Wahabis and Deobandis do not agree with Barelvies due to their own (deviant) understanding and beliefs of Islam, they consider they have right to stop other Muslims practicing what other Muslims believe? What do they think of themselves, are they Allah or Prophet of Allah to judge Muslims and their beliefs?
It is theirs' these attitudes of ignorance (trying to become Thekadar of Islam and trying to impose their version of Islam over others using force) that is creating all fitna and fisad in Muslim world. I fear the day Muslims would start retaliating aggressively against them.
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