Re: Blessings of Qasidat al-Burda (Poem praising the Prophet)
You have no concept of Shifa'a. It is commonly found in the the sayings of Rasul-Allah (saws) and those most intelligent scholars that came after him. You can call it Shirk all you want armughal, but you won't ever be able to understand the concept of Shifa'a until you teach yourself to be humble in your knowledge at the doorstep of all the greatest scholars of qur'an and ahadith before us. You are out of your minds both of you.
You have both been trapped by the Wahhabi onslaught, unfortunately, and anyone who wishes to present the true beliefs of Ahl' as-Sunnah wa'l Jama'ah, you turn them down. It's not the loss of the truthful ones but only your own.
Shirk, bid'a, kufr, la this la that, that's all you know how to say, without even absorbing the sayings of 'Ulema you have decided to become self-learned 'Ulema on your own. How unfortunate for you to be this way.
Re: Blessings of Qasidat al-Burda (Poem praising the Prophet)
Once again to refresh your memory, please comment on this:
We all know of this hadith stated in Sahih al-Muslim:
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«من سنَّ في الإسلام سنة حسنة فله أجرها وأجر من عمل بها إلى يوم القيامة، لا ينقص من أجورهم شىء ومن سنَّ فِى الإسلام سنة سيئة فعليه وزرها ووزر من عمل بها إلى يوم القيامة لا ينقص من أوزارهم شىء»
This hadith means:
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The one who innovates a good innovation in Islam has its reward and a reward similar to those who follow him in it--until the Day of Judgment--without lessening their reward. The one who innovates an innovation of misguidance would be sinful for it and has sins similar to those who follow him in it--until the Day of Judgment--without lessening their sins.
It is apparent Muslims** have not** gone astray in celebrating the birth of the Prophet, based upon the aforementioned hadith, because the deeds practiced during this event are considered rewardable by the standards of the Religion, and in line with the definition of innovations of guidance. Unfortunately, there are some people who misinterpret a sahih hadith related by Abu Dawud: "كل بدعة ضلالة"
which REALLY means: <> Those who are misguided interpret the word (kul) as `every' and thus claim this hadith to them means: "Every innovation is an innovation of misguidance. Their claim is unfounded for two reasons. Linguistically, this hadith is similar to the hadith related by al-Bayhaqiyy: "كل عين زانية"
Which clearly does not mean: "Every eye gazes the look of the adulterer;" rather, "Most people are guilty of the forbidden look." The person blind since birth would surely not have the forbidden look, and it is known the Prophets would never commit such an abject sin. The word "كل" (kul) as used in both hadiths refers to `most,' although it can mean "every" it does not mean this in all cases.
As a matter of fact, in the explanation of Sahih Muslim, an-Nawawiyy said: "The saying of the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, «كل بدعة ضلالة» is among the terms which are: "عام مخصوص" (^am makhsus) i.e., a general statement giving a specific meaning; which is a known field in Islam, and the meaning of the hadith is "most innovations are innovations of misguidance."
This field the "عام مخصوص" is seen in the Qur'an in Ayah 3 of Surat al-Ahqaf: تدمر كل شىء] which means the wind Allah sent as punishment to the people of ^Ad demolished most of the things.
To accept the meaning: "Every innovation is an innovation of misguidance," as the meaning of the sahih hadith related by Abu Dawud would negate the sahih hadith related by Imam Muslim which specifies two types of innovations: the innovations of guidance and the innovations of misguidance. In the rules of the Religion it is not permissible to interpret two sahih hadiths in contradiction to one another, therefore we know the true meaning.
Please explain to me now Lajawab, that if one hadith says every innovation is a misguidance, are you telling me that that one hadith in Sunan Abu Dawud is negating the other related by Muslim in his Sahih which is a Sahih Hadith as well?
It is clear and obvious that any person who interprets the word "Kul" in that hadith is misguided and has committed a grave and serious error.
Re: Blessings of Qasidat al-Burda (Poem praising the Prophet)
Quran 39:3
*Surely pure religion is for Allah only. And those who choose protecting friends beside Him (say): We worship them only that they may bring us near unto Allah. Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Lo! Allah guideth not him who is a liar, an ingrate. *
Re: Blessings of Qasidat al-Burda (Poem praising the Prophet)
its not praising the prophet (saw) that is shirk (even Quran praises the prophet), but to believe that such poetry can bring good luck or ward off evil is shirk....
It clearly states that Sahabi Hassan ibn Thabit (ra) speaks of reward from seeking praise of Rasul-Allah (saws) in his poetry.
I quote for you again below since you blatantly missed it:
** Muhammad is a human being but not like other human beings.
Rather he is a flawless diamond and the rest of mankind is just stones.**
Blessings be on him so that perhaps Allah may have mercy on us
on that burning Day when the Fire is roaring forth its sparks.
*And,
*Sahabi Hassan ibn Thabit (ra) is asking to be in Paradise with Rasul-Allah (saws) because of the praises he sends upon him (saws).
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Again, a typical ayah of Qur'an that was used by the Mujassima and Mu'taziliyy sects on other Muslims, yet these types of ayats were revealed upon the idol worshippers, that is now being used by armughal upon other Muslims.
After all the other posts, it is obvious and pointless to ever listen to any more ranting and raving by you. Let me show you another ayah of Qur'an you picker and chooser, how arrogant you people are, now read this before you become an Aalim on Qur'an:
Qur'an 3:28 **Let not the believers Take for friend or helpers Unbelievers **rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah. except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
Now this ayah says for believers not to take unbelievers as friends or helpers, but does it say not to take believers as friends or helpers? This is the same word AWLIYA used to describe friends or protectors in the verse you used above.
Here is another example armughal for you!:
Qur'an 4:139 Yea, to those who take for friends unbelievers rather than believers: is it honour they seek among them? Nay,- all honour is with Allah.
So this verse implies clearly that you should take for friends the believers rather than unbelievers.
Listen armughal, I am sorry to say but you have just put yourself in a catch 22.
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*10:62 Behold! verily on the friends of Allah there is no fear, nor shall they grieve;
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5:55 Your (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (fellowship of) believers,- those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship).
5:56 As to those who turn (for friendship) to Allah, His Messenger, and the (fellowship of) believers,- it is the fellowship of Allah that must certainly triumph.
7:196 "For my Protector is Allah, Who revealed the Book (from time to time), and He will choose and befriend the righteous.
9:16 Or think ye that ye shall be abandoned, as though Allah did not know those among you who strive with might and main, and take none for friends and protectors except Allah, His Messenger, and the (community of) Believers? But Allah is well- acquainted with (all) that ye do.
40:18 Warn them of the Day that is (ever) drawing near, when the hearts will (come) right up to the throats to choke (them); No intimate friend (Shafi'in) nor intercessor will the wrong-doers have, who could be listened to.
It does not state that the doers of good will not have shafi'in (intimate friend or intercessor).
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You think all of these ayats speak of "war times"????
Okay man, please run away you are lost and have no idea of what you're talking about. You may be a moderator here, but you have absolutely no idea of what you're saying. These ayats speak of ALLEGIANCE more precisely not just war times only, and also that wherever your allegiance lies, that is where you will lie on the day of reckoning by judgement by Allah (swt) due to your actions and the allegiance to what you made, to EVIL friends or to the GOOD ones. So now go find out who are the believing friends to take as Awliya.
Please study any exegises of Qur'an and you will learn for yourself that these points about Awliya and Waliyyun and Shafi'in are not about war time combat,
You know, I suggest you stop right here before you make anymore mistakes brother.
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Now I will await a reply by Lajawab or anyone else on post #15.
I also believe that armughal, you have enough information there for you to think about brother. I will reply back to you soon, please post as much as you can. I will respond to you upon returning.
Re: Blessings of Qasidat al-Burda (Poem praising the Prophet)
Islam doesn;t require long winded speeches to prove a validity of something…
It’s straight and to the point…Not winding and curving like your posts…
If you have something from the Quran or Sunnah that tells me that reciting Qasidahs or poetry has benefits or blessing, then I’ll believe you and I’ll accept it…
If you don’t, then you can be sure, as a Muslim, I reject it…
As for good innovations and bad innovations, we left that to the Khulafa…There are no Khulafa…
The verdict on your innovations such as Mawlid and reading Qasidahs for blessings: Rejected…
You keep practicing them…I don’t care…I am not gonna risk my Aakhira based on someone’s innovations which has no relevance, either in the Quran or the Sunnah…
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Quran 26:97- By Allah! we were certainly in manifest error,
**When we made you equal to the Lord of the worlds;*
And none but the guilty led us astray; So we have no intercessors,
Nor a true friend (wali);
But if we could but once return, we would be of the believers.
Most surely there is a sign in this, but most of them do not believe.*
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Send him peace and blessings as prescribed…
Do not be like those who kept innovating their religion out of love for Allah :swt: and His Prophets (pbut) until their original Deen ceased to exist and they were cast out of Allah :swt:'s favour…
If you love Allah :swt:, then pray Nafls to Him and stay awake for part of the night for Tahajjud…
If you love the Holy Prophet :saw:, send Durood on him…Hundreds of times a day if you wish…Learn his biography, imitate his actions and follow his Sunnah…
Are Mawlids, Qasidahs, weird and strange Duroods that border on shirk (Like Durood Taj) part of Islam? Absolutely not…
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Does that mean ur saying praising Rasul-Allah:saw: would be of no benefit to u LJ ? What is this qaseeda actually..its a poetry praising Rasool Allah :saw: . Its quite obvious from the quoted post that because of the praises he is sending upon him :saw: sahabi-e-Rasool :saw: is asking to be in paradise. To Read and listen to Naat Shareef or any poetry that praises Rasool Allah :saw: is no doubt means of attaining great blessings. The Companions of the beloved Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) showed the greatest respect and honor to the Rasool Allah(sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). They praised Rasool-Allah:saw: from their hearts. Great Sahaba like Hazrat Has’saan ibn Thaabit (RA) and Hazrat Abdullah ibn Rawaaha(RA) rendered Naat in the presence of Rasool-Allah :saw: . When the assembly of Zikr of the beloved Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) takes place, a Muslim is always happy and joyful. The Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) even commanded that a platform be laid in Musjid-e-Nabawi for Sahabi-e-Rasool Hazrat Has’saan ibn Thaabit to recite Naat-e-Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)
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OK…
Show me from Quran or Sunnah where it’s written that reading or reciting poetry written for the Holy Prophet (saw) has any ‘great blessings’ and I’ll believe you…
Re: Blessings of Qasidat al-Burda (Poem praising the Prophet)
Juni_Boy,
Don't bother trying, even though the evidences are right infront of their faces, they will still in the end turn around and accuse you of shirk like the way they've done to me. Unfortunately for them, if they knew more about the teachings of Rasul-Allah (saws), that one Muslim should never accuse another Muslim of Kufr without knowing it for certain. Also unfortunately, instead of providing a response to my very straightforward response in regards to what is a bid'a, as I have clearly shown in post# 15, they refuse to answer with a straightforward response and resort to name-calling and attacking, such as those shirk attacks.
Don't worry...you have just challenged my Aqidah. We will see on the day of reckoning, as per just as Rasul-Allah (saws) said about the accuser and not the accused being guilty.
Still no response from you yet on Post#15, no reiterations, give a response or else you are admitting that you ahve no firm place to stand upon. More name calling coming here, I am sure.
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You are not an Islamic scholar. From Shaykh Yusuf Qardawi, to Mufti Isa al-Mani in Dubai, to the Grand Shaykh of Al-Azhar University, to the Mashayakhin of Syria, to all the former scholars of Makka and Madina before the Wahhabis, the Grand Mufti’s of Makka Mukkarama and Madinatul Munnawwara, to the Hashemite scholars of Jordan, to the 'Ulema of al-Maghreb, throughout the Arab parts of the world, it is unanimous that Mawlid un-Nabi is a valid and a bid’a of guidance, and that the recitation of Qasaa’id is also done on a grand scale.
Accept it or not, your beliefs are that of a minority sect and you will have a little bit of time left until the advent of al-Mahdi (as) who will finish such literalist ignoramous interpretations of Islam.
You speak of reciting Durud upon Rasul-Allah (saws), and praying Nawafil and Tahajjud, but you know nothing of my life or actions to say that I don’t do such things. So who are you to question my life actions.
The last thing that you both armughal and Lajawab, have left on your plate in defense of your silly understandings of Qur’an and Sunnah, is to throw insults at me. Bravo.
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And I already answered you…An innovation is an innovation and who is to tell what is acceptable and what is not…
At stake is your Aakhira…I have told you…I am not going to risk my Aakhira and my Iman based on an innovation…What if the innovation was not accepted? I am sure you are aware of the Hadith that says Bida’a is hellfire…
And let’s say I accept an innovation that you say is good…Let’s say that innovation turns out to be bad…
Not only will you get punishment for following misguidance but misguiding others as well…
And unfortunately it will be too late…If an innovation that you tell me to follow turns out to be false, your mouth and belly will be too full of flames for you to utter to me a simple apology for misguiding me…
Except the innovations instituted by the Khulafa Rashideen (Because they were permitted by the Holy Prophet :saw:) I reject all innovations…
Too much risk involved…This innovation that Qasidahs bring blessings is rejected by me…
to recite Naat-e-Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)