Re: Blasphemy law
Ok, this is way off base, but just to finish the point... One's sex and sexuality are 2 totally different things. God created both, so following one's sexuality is not unnatural. Not because God loves them, because they are acting naturally according to the way God created them. The absurd behavior that needs to be rooted out is the intolerance and ignorance that believes otherwise.
Its not off base, you simply cannot answer and defend what you are saying. So why do we root out absurd behavior when it involves kidnapping, raping or killing people. Maybe someone has a natural tendency for it. Men having a natural tendency to fondle women and flirt and sleep with them is not unusual, why don't you promote that. So does God love them for doing that or he doesn't.
Sorry, nothing about that was implicit or clear to me. Suffice to say, we have major disagreements what constitutes divine origin. But my larger point was that Muslims themselves seem to be confused since they treat 'reported' sayings of a prophet as divine origin.
No no no, I clearly stated we are not discussing things of divine origin here. We are not talking about Bible and Quran here. We are talking about civil law changing not its sources in all cases. Your going on a tangent here. Please come back to what I was talking about.
C'mon, wahabism flies in the face of the way the majority of Muslims practice religion today, do I really need to enumerate how that practice flies in the face of almost everything western societies represent? It would be much easier to list the things that are common.
I am ready to go if you can show me what you are talking about. I am trying to shed the generalities and get into specifics. Your claiming something then bring it forth and we can discuss.
But all this has become way off topic. The gist of this blasphemy argurment is this: The is the pov that should be discussed. How anyone in this day and age can reccomend death for someone who decides the religion he was born into isn't for him is beyond comprehension. What an insecure, unGodly act that is.
How many people really believe in this barbaric practice?
Actually I am not of this opinion (maybe many muslims are but they really don't spend time to ascertain what is right or wrong). The narrations where people were put to death for apostacy are all tied with treason, so in my opinion most people make the mistake of tying the two together. I don't the real reason for putting to the death was because they apostasized but because they intentionally declared to be muslims so they can get close and harm the muslims. Its treason and betrayal, which interestingly most countries today regard as a very severe crime and traitors are always put to death or charged with the highest offense.