Blasphemy as per Quran

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So why Pakistani Ulema (Barelvi, Deobandi, Ahle-Hadeeth) all agree on the blasphemy law? I think this is the only law that they all agreed upon. Also why they claim everywhere, on TV shows to newspapers that this is the law for 1400 and cannot be changed?

The west is testing our last forte of Imaan, ie. love of Prophet SAW. Since they have a history of killing Prophets and lately some of them have abandoned religion altogether to be 'freed' to do anything, they would like to wipe out faith from 1B Muslims around the world also. So they can slander on their will. This is aint going to happen until we have last Muslim on Earth. Having said that, the implementation of blasphemy law is debatable, specially the often misuse to settle personal score. It should be reviewed and must contain a clear cut detailed commentary from supreme court so no innocent get killed.

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Check out what our liberal leaders (QA and AI) did when it came to blasphemy law. A slap on current wine-drinking liberal elites of Pakistan.

http://ejang.jang.com.pk/1-12-2011/Karachi/pic.asp?picname=06_04.gif

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First of all, I agree that a blasphemy law should be there to deter people from insulting each other's religion and important religious personalities. It should not be concerned with the sensitivities of the Muslims only. Also blasphemy should be clearly defined as what constitutes blasphemy and what doesn't come under blasphemy. Also apart from some state level deterrence, it would be great if assault of pen or speech be responded in similar way i.e., assaults of rajpal, rushdie, geert wilders, pat robertson and so many others should have been responded with books, speeches and other forms of media. We need to educate people about our great prophet(pbuh) rather than telling them that we can only raise swords against your words as we are short on intellectual side.

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Kchgutta west is noit that stupid that they dont how much we Love our PROPHET SAW they insult us to check us so what have to do is just chop there head off

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Mughal give me proof not your personal opnion Blashmey law is 10000000000000% percent according to Islam and in the life HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW and on the orders of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW many people who commited blashmey were killed freed of expression has many limits in ISLAM

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Don't be naive. The people who insult their prophets will refrain from doing it to our Prophet SAW who they don't believe in? You can keep writing articles to rebuttle or us Internet or Videos, but this will not prevent them to keep doing what they do. Yes, by replying with intellect using those medias will inspire people and propagate Islam, as it has been the case, but its essential for Ummah to take action to not let them do the blasphemy. This is the core of Imaan for a Muslim.

The execution of a proven blasphemous is only implemented within sharia jurisdiction. Outside of the sharia law, you can condemn, boycott, protest, write/publish, use diplomatic channels on govt level, any way possible to make your case to the country/region where that person resides. We have example of Emperor of Iran who ripped Prophet's letter and Prophet SAW prediction in response that came true in following years. So Allah has taken revenge from the blasphemous several times where he/she was out of reach of Islamic land. We SHOULD NOT change the way we have this law for 1400 years. Allah commanded to respect others' religion and their temples, and we expect the same from others.

Another aspect beside teasing and testing our mettle is that if we accept their demand on this matter than one after another all Sharia law will be called barbaric. Where US citizens, in the light of weekend shooting of Gifford are saying that their system is not working. Murdered on Wednesday and hung on Saturday in public was the best justice human ever had where a 10 year old son is taken by his father to show execution and swift justice so he won't even think of commuting such crime even in his dream.
Human psychology and crime go hands in hands, and some illness are only cured by surgery not medicines. Or spend 50 more years of violent societies and then go back to basics and tear apart the fake human rights costume we are wearing.

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The *west *has a history of killing Prophets? hmmm where did you pull that one from?

and they don't have to wipe out faith from 1B muslims as there is hardly any faith left in those 1B muslims. haali and iqbal were writing this over a 100 years ago.

raha deen baaqi na islam baaqi
islam ka reh gaya naam baaqi

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No matter how sinner a Muslim is, love of Prophet remains the core of his faith. You can write your opinion, but ijmaa of the Ummah is to defend the Prophet's respect in the light of many incidents happened during Prophet's era and His companions.

For your question on killing Prophets, we all know Jesus AS was persecuted and was attempted to be killed by Jews/Romans as He was a threat to both (clergy and authority). Prophet Muhammed SAW himself was given poison by Jewish woman on the day when Khybar falls.

Jesus' own words....

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often I would have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!" Matt 23:37

Jeremiah is said to be killed by Jews, some of Jews acknowledge it but others dispute it.

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The punishment for blasphemous was same even in Bible.

Leviticus 24:13-16 (New International Version, ©2010)

13 Then the LORD said to Moses: 14 “Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. 15 Say to the Israelites: ‘Anyone who curses their God will be held responsible; 16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.

The law was implemented in Europe until end of medieval times, it is now changed in most western countries to a mere couple of hundred pounds. Do you want Muslims to negotiate a deal with blasphemous like human rights champions who kill dozens of innocents from 50,000 ft in the sky? Or review and refine its interpretation so nobody accuse anyone falsely of blasphemy else see the same fate.

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I have not read this discussion....was just skimming through and read the line that "the West has history of killing Prophets"......smoothy, how did you work that West is responbile for killing Prophets when all the Prophets that we know of have come into radius of no more than 3,000 kms.......that is present day Iraq, Palestine, Syria, and Yemen...........and I am sure back in those days there were no drones!

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west was not responsible it was jews who killed many PROPHTES including Hazrat Zakria AS and many prophets before him that is mentioned in the Quran but now west is supporting the killer of PROPHETS and I am putting a link here listen to this program Dr Anees mention the women who was killed on FATHA e MAKKAH for Blashmey

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http://www.awaztoday.com/playvideo.asp?pageId=12603

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To Nussairee: Look, Jews are inter-mixed with Europeans and Turks (Khazars and Ashkenazi etc) who have spread through Europe and later to US. These Caucasian Jews are the base of Zionists and are very well mixed in western society and hold powers (Semitic or Sephardic Jews are second class citizens even in Isreal). Since everyone know whose tune the western countries really dance on (knowing their current power/control of the world and fact that they are responsible of repeated misconduct quoted in Bible and history), therefore powerhouses of west that give charity through IMF/World Bank to countries like Pakistan, are demanding change in our law and now are attacking our religion through NGOs and puppet governments. Nothing to take away from the fact that Muslims are not left behind damaging their own religion, but there is a conspiracy that is triggering blasphemy and draw this/burn that movements more frequently and loudly every passing year. Isn't it an alarm and proof of a well planned conspiracy on its own???

If you don't see any link to the biblical history and think that my comparisson is baseless than you can simply reject it. But I am seeing it in a greater context and the events of last 10 years are all indicating that its all unfolding according to biblical and Islamic prophecies and things are only going to get worse for Muslims.

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^smooth_guy, as much as I share ur hate and condemnation of the zionists and other allied oppressing forces I think blaming them for killing the Prophets is stretching things a bit far..........although conversion to Judaism is a complex matter nowadays, it still is a religion and not race..........plus sizeable number of them converted to Christianity and later to Islam as well........and we can't really be free of burden of blame ourselves as Muslims since our own garment is not too clean either......as might know many attempts were made by ppl calling themselves Muslims (were actually munafiqeens) on the life of our Prophet SAWW?.........and after Prophet SAWW 3 of the 4 Rashidun successors of the Prophet SAWW were again killed by ppl calling themselves Muslims...........Prophet's both grandsons were killed by the hands of the Muslims.........and all these within the first 50 years of Islam....
If you look at it from theological perspective then yes Quran condemns the Jews but its does not really always praise the Muslims either (condemns them continuously throughout)...........it praises only the Momineen from the ranks of the Muslims and at the same time praising the true believers of the Jews, Christians, Sabains etc........

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The execution of a proven blasphemous is only implemented within sharia jurisdiction. Outside of the sharia law, you can condemn, boycott, protest, write/publish, use diplomatic channels on govt level, any way possible to make your case to the country/region where that person resides. We have example of Emperor of Iran who ripped Prophet's letter and Prophet SAW prediction in response that came true in following years. So Allah has taken revenge from the blasphemous several times where he/she was out of reach of Islamic land. We SHOULD NOT change the way we have this law for 1400 years. Allah commanded to respect others' religion and their temples, and we expect the same from others.

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You have given the example of king of Persia. kindly ponder on this example. The holy prophet(pbuh) didn't issue any death fatwa nor did he send anyone to kill the Persian king. Allah told him(pbuh) about the end of king and that this will be due to the contempt he had shown to the letter of the prophet(pbuh). Allah Himself punished the king. No assassins were sent to teach him a lesson.

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Chugtai, read my post again that you quoted. I am saying the exact same thing. On his return to Medina the messenger told the Prophet SAW how Khusraw (Chosroes II) had torn his letter to pieces and the Prophet's only reply was, "May God tear up his kingdom". the king of Persia saw his fate soon after the letter incident where his son killed him. Prophet SAW even told Khusraw's delegation from his Yemeni governor that who you're taking me to, he has died on such and such day by his own son. This news was not even gone outside of Persian capital yet, therefore not only the men but even governor of Yemen also became Muslim as soon as they got confirmation from Persia.

So this is my point, when a blasphemer is not in Sharia land, he can be dealt with the diplomatic and other means that I described in my post. Allah himself will take revenge from such a person, but Muslims must make every effort to not allow anyone insulting our Prophet, period. And leave rest on Allah where we don't have power.

Nussairee, when Taliban harbored terrorists, they were attacked. Right! Fine. So when west is controlled by the Jews and Jews (bani-Isreal) are inter-mixed with caucasians (read their history in Eastern Europe, Russia and around Caspian), the majority (Christians, who don't have history of killing Prophets) either liberate themselves/their system from Jews or shall be called the friends of Jews who harbour their Zionist agenda which includes to ridicule Islam and its Prophet SAW. That is my point.

Muslims have made huge damages to their religion and its progress, no doubt. History is as bright as sunshine here. But Islam will move on even if 99% of Muslims go the way of previous nations, and whenever there is an attack on Islam's integrity and Prophet, there will always be reaction. And wherever possible (in so called Islamic countries) the blasphemy law will be practiced. I don't see a single (if not bas...d) person who can tolerate someone swearing at his father, why expect Muslims not to practice the law on which there is a Ijmah for 1400.

I know its difficult these days, as we who are born in this age and have studied in western institutions or are under heavy influence of Human Rights Champions to comprehend, but Allah's law, be it in Bible or Quran takes precedence on any new 'moderate' enlightenment. The same sophesticated moderate people don't say anything when poor villigers die from drone attacks or when their govt's puppets in our countries raise prices and people commit suicides and what not. This is a planned demolation of any Islamic country that can be as power to survive on its own. From Morroco to Indonesia, Western policies are two-faced for last century or two. Even some western journalists are protesting on these policies, but our kala saab (liberals and elites in ex-colonial countries) only think with iphone on one hand and BigMac on other.

Having said that, I have always been in favour of reviewing the blasphemy law in Pakistan and want Supreme court and Islamic Ideology Council to provide a detailed interpretation and procedure for witness and prosecution. This law is poorly implemented in our country with many innocents were targeted on personal animosity and later accused for blasphemy. More Muslims than minority people BTW. Also this is very alarming that no false accuser has ever got 7 year of imprisonment till today. This need to stop to have a crystal clear justice mechanism on a very sensitive issue.

Salman Taseer's last few interviews also suggest that he realized that his words were not appropriate on a sensitive issue, but he meant to have a review on law's implementation but not to completely remove it. Now he is with his Creator, so we can't say much. But I hope his killer will be prosecuted with justice and Taseer's stance (all video evidence is available to public also) on this matter will be taken into account. Wallaho Alam.

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It will be interesting to see these Ulema putting forward the reason why its necessary to have death penalty for blasphemer. They should have some hard evidence from Quran, Hadeeth, Ijma-e-Ummat and Bible references (as its advertised below).

Date: Sun Jan 16 2011
Location: Lahore, Pakistan

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=482473176255&set=a.240658626255.146265.231216366255

If someone can get a hold of video recording of this conference, please provide a link as it is on very issue discussed in this thread.

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It’s sad to see so many Muslims so eager to malign Islam and Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Watch the video for an answer on this topic:

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Hudhur gave a discourse on the Holy Prophet’s (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) attribute of forgiveness in today’s Friday Sermon. He began by reciting the Quranic verse: ‘Take to forgiveness, and enjoin kindness, and turn away from the ignorant.’ (7:200)](http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?verse=7:200). Hudhur said when Hadhrat ‘Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) said that the Prophet’s life was a representation of Quranic commandments, she identified the endless sea of high morals that he was and had thus indicated to search for precious pearls from this endless sea. His elevated station as the Seal of all the Prophets is apparent in the Divine statement of: ‘…This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour upon you and have chosen for you Islam as religion…’ (5:4)](http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?verse=5:4) as God revealed the last Book of religious law to him. Who could understand the Book more than him! Every aspect of his life was a practical depiction of the Holy Qur’an and a blessed model for us to follow. Today Hudhur chose to speak on his blessed quality of forgiveness. This quality enhanced the pious in their love for him, and highlighted the filth of the hypocrite when he forgave them.

The Promised Messiah (on whom be peace) wrote that people who are close to God have to experience terrible verbal abuse but they abide by: **‘Take to forgiveness, and enjoin kindness, and turn away from the ignorant.’ **The perfect man, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) was badly persecuted and verbally abused but this embodiment of forgiveness prayed for his enemies instead. In accordance with God’s promise his detractors met the sorry end that was predicted for them and none could harm the Prophet’s (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) honour. In spite of continuous persecution of himself and his Companions, when he attained power he demonstrated a peerless model of forgiveness. Any fair-minded historian could not deny that the Prophet’s (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) attribute of forgiveness and fortitude was unequalled.

Abdullah ibn Abi bin Salool was the head of the hypocrites who appeared to obey the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) but did not desist from making filthy attacks on him. The reason for his enmity was that the people of Medina were thinking of making him their leader but after the Prophet’s (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) migration all the tribes and people of all religions accepted him as the leader instead. In an incident before the battle of Badr, the quality of forgiveness of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) shone through.

The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) was going to see Sa’ad bin Ubada who was unwell. Along the way he passed by an assembly in which Abdullah bin Salool sat along with Muslims, idol-worshippers and Jews. As the Prophet’s (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) ride passed by some dust flew on the assembly. Abdullah Salool covered his nose and said ‘do not throw dust on us’. In response, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) said his greetings and read some Qur’an to them. Abdullah Salool said, ‘do not bother us, go home and read the Qur’an to whoever comes to your home.’ A Companion who was present said, ‘O Prophet of God, come and read the Qur’an to us in our gatherings.’ People stood up and an argument ensued. The Prophet asked them to quieten down and left. After a while Abdullah Salool became a Muslim but troubled the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) through his hypocritical schemes.

During one expedition a migrant (Makkan Muslim) struck an Ansar’s back with his hand. The Ansar retaliated. Both of them started calling their people for help. Seeing this, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) stopped them from reverting to ignorant times. When Abdullah Salool came to know of this he reacted aggressively in front of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). Hadhrat Umer (may Allah be pleased with him), who was present, stood up and asked the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) if he could cut the man’s head off for the insolence. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) replied, ‘forgive him for people may say that Muhammad even kills his associates.’

The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) heard that Abdullah Salool had said something disagreeable so he asked him for confirmation. He denied and the Prophet did not ask him again. However, God informed the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) through revelation that what he had heard was true. It is thus recorded in the Qur’an: **‘They say, ‘If we return to Medina, the one most honourable will surely drive out therefrom the one most mean;’ **(63:9)](http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?verse=63:9). This left no doubt about what had happened even though the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) already perceived Abdullah Salool to be so. Abdullah Salool’s son was a sincere Muslim, he asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) if he could kill his father. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) replied there was no need for that and that he did not intend to punish him but was going to treat his father gently and kindly.

Once Hadhrat ‘Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) was mistakenly left behind a convoy. One Companion noticed her on her own and asleep. He read ‘Inna lillahe wa inna illahihe raji’oon’. She woke up and covered herself. He brought his camel next to her, she mounted it and they met up with the convoy. Later, the very same hypocrites [of Medina] made terrible allegations about Hadhrat ‘Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her). This made the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) very anxious. The allegation about Hadhrat ‘Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) was an attempt to harm the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). Later, he made a speech in which he said he had been given deep hurt regarding his family. Yet, he did not give any prompt punishment to the hypocrites. When God sent the revelation exonerating Hadhrat ‘Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) he still did not punish anyone and pardoned them. When Abdullah Salool died his son asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) if he could give one of his tunics in which Salool could be buried. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) gave him a tunic and also led the funeral Prayer of Abdullah Salool. Hadhrat Umer (may Allah be pleased with him) remarked to the Prophet that he knew of everything regarding the hypocrites and also that even if they did Istaghfar (seeking forgiveness) seventy times, it would not be accepted. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) replied that there was leeway in this matter and that he would try and say *Istaghfar *more than seventy times for Abdullah Salool.

The Bedouins of Arabia did many disgraceful acts in the presence of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). Once, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) had a thick-bordered cloak on. A Bedouin pulled it so fiercely that a mark of the thick border was left on the Prophet’s blessed neck. The Bedouin said to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) ‘load on my two camels with the fortune of God that is in your possession, because it is neither yours nor your father’s.’ The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) remained silent for a while and then said, ‘the fortune is Allah’s, and I am His servant. Do you not think you will be retaliated for the pain you have given me’. ‘No, I do not,’ answered the Bedouin. ‘Why?’ asked the Prophet. The Bedouin said, ‘because you do not react to evil with evil.’ The Prophet laughed and ordered to load the Bedouin’s camels with barley and dates.

Once, eighty men of the Quraish tribe suddenly attacked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) and his Companions as they offered Fajr Salat. They intended to kill. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) forgave them and let them go. A Jew once passed the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) and instead of saying *Assalamoalaikum *said Assamo alaik (may you be destroyed). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) understood what he had said and although his Companions wished to retaliate, the Prophet stopped them thus leaving a message that his compassion was for everyone. He only punished where Divine commandments were breached. Once a Jewish woman poisoned the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) and his Companions and in spite of her confession, he forgave her.

Wahshi [ibn Harb, an enemy of Islam] heard that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) did not seek reprisal from envoys, so he went to see him with some envoys from Taif. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) asked him if he was Wahshi which he confirmed, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) then asked if he had killed Hadhrat Hamza. Again, he said yes. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) asked him the details of how he had killed his uncle and wept as he related the incident. He then forgave him but said if it was possible, could he not come in front of him again.

After the victory of Makkah, an order was given to kill Ikrama, a war criminal and a then extreme enemy of Islam. Ikrama flew towards Yemen when he heard of this. Meanwhile, his wife accepted Islam and chased after him. She found him by the coast about to board a boat. She brought him back by telling him that she had just come from the best among all people and that she had sought refuge for him. Ikrama returned and asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) if this was true. When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) confirmed this, Ikrama recited the Shahadah and hung his head in shame. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) forgave all his transgressions and prayed, ‘O’ Allah, forgive every hurt that Ikrama caused me.’

Hudhur read Durud at this point: Bless O’ Allah Muhammad and the people of Muhammad as You did bless Abraham and the people of Abraham. You are indeed the Praiseworthy, the Glorious. Prosper O’ Allah Muhammad and the people of Muhammad as You did prosper Abraham and the people of Abraham. You are indeed the Praiseworthy, the Glorious.

Once, a man came to Ka’ba where the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) was performing the circuits. The man intended to kill the Prophet who was informed by God of his plan. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) summoned the man to him, who became perturbed. When asked why he had come there, the man started making excuses. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) smiled and placed his hand on the man’s chest. All the hatred in the man’s heart was removed and the affectionate touch released a sea of love in him. Such was the treatment of our master with his enemies. He subdued his enemies with love. He did not ever take revenge for any wrong committed against his own person apart from instances where God’s commandments were violated. Hadhrat Umer (may God be pleased with him) once said, ‘O Prophet of God, my parents be sacrificed on you, Hadhrat Nuh (peace be on him) thus prayed for his people: ‘…‘My Lord, leave not in the land a single one of the disbelievers;’ (71:27)](http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?verse=71:27) But O Prophet of God, had you prayed in the same way about us, all of us would have been destroyed.’ The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) had of course thus prayed: ‘O Allah forgive my people for they do not know what they do’.

Such was the attribute of forgiveness of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be on him). It seemed unlikely to the detractors but when they experienced it, they accepted Islam. If only the Muslims today understood this point, they can help Islam advance manifold. If only they reflected on this blessed model. May God give them the sense to do so.

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