Blame yourselves, not us: Duckworth tells SA.

Duckworth - Lewis method has always courted controversy. In my opinion, this probably is the fairest method?

http://www.khel.com/worldcup/fullstory.asp?id=12416&sports=Cricket

New Delhi, March 6: South Africa have themselves to blame rather than the Duckworth-Lewis method for their early exit from the World Cup, said the man who developed the system to decide rain-affected matches.

People are always going to be unhappy if they lose, Frank Duckworth said in The Indian Express on Thursday following criticism of the current rain rule he devised along with fellow-mathematician Tony Lewis.

South Africa lost because of their own mistakes, said Duckworth, currently with the Royal Society of Statisticians.

Both Shaun Pollock and Sanath Jayasuriya (Sri Lankan captain) had the same papers (with the run-rates). Sanath read it right and Shaun didn`t, he said.

As far as we are concerned, the rules were agreed upon by all countries before the Cup and no-one has complained yet.

Pollock`s South Africans were eliminated from the tournament when their final Group-B match against Sri Lanka ended in a tie after rain stopped play with five overs remaining at Kingsmead on Monday.

The hosts, needing a win to reach the Super Sixes, were 229 for six after 45 overs in reply to Sri Lanka`s 268 for nine when rain drove the players off the field.

According to the Duckworth-Lewis method, the par score was 229, which meant the honours and the points were shared.

Sri Lanka topped the group with 18 points to qualify for the next round along with Kenya (16) and New Zealand (16). South Africa finished fourth with 14 points and bowed out of the competition.

The top three teams were to qualify for Super Sixes from the group.

South Africa would have won the crucial match and qualified had they scored one more run.

Batsman Mark Boucher, apparently under the impression that the target was 229 and not 230, blocked what turned out to be the last ball of the rain-hit match.

South Africa had reasons to curse the weather gods in 1992 when they were asked to score an impossible 22 to win off one ball in the rain-hit World Cup semi-final against England in Australia.

What the 1992 semi-final did was highlight the fact that a logical and mathematical approach was needed to solve the problem. The prevalent Australian rule was not thought through as much as it should have been, said Duckworth.

He also said he was now working on a new system along with Lewis to avoid a ludicrous and unfair situation.

Bizarre situations can still happen. They could happen under any rule, he said.

``That`s why we are working at an alternative method. Not necessarily a better method, but an alternative method that will focus on probability of victory rather than the margin of victory based on resources in hand.

We are trying to reach a situation where we can ascertain the probability of victory of both the teams, and set a revised target accordingly.AFP

I totally agree with the guy!!

Good on him.

SA shouldn’t complain…cuz of the rain in the WI-Bangladesh match they got back into the WC…and cuz of rain they’re going out :k:

South Africa did not deserve to be in the super six. They played mediocre versus NZ and lost, played mediocre versus WI before putting a show on at the end of the match, and still lost. They only scored 250 ish runs against Canada, and really only beat Kenya and Bangladesh convincingly.

The only reason S.A had a chance was because of the 3 easy wins they had against Kenya, Bangladesh and Canada. They, like Pakistan did not have a legitimate world cup win against a top class nation.

After Pakistan, I think SA was the next team that did not deserve to be in the Super Sixes, and are rightly not in it.

when you cant do 2nd grade addition…you deserve to be out. I liked the comment Steve Waugh made about DL method that " We are taught DL before times table in australia" :hehe:

Waugh on Pollock

I think any such extrapolation based target setting is wrong in sports. When a game gets interrupted why can't we simply replay the game another time?

Also is indoor cricket ground so out of question?

exactly. rain outs that result in ties are just useless. they should just have reserve days like they used to

hock ey: ties are when the scores are level
basketball: there are no ties
football: rain outs are rescheduled
cricket: rain outs are TIED
soccer: penalty kicks, or tied if in regular season play

and oh another question, why do they have rain reserve days in the super six? so now theyre giving the super six teams more advantages, and the teams that didnt make it due to rain, or atleast potentially didnt make it due to rain (i.e. west indies, south africa, england, pakistan)

how ironic, 4 tteams that were world cup contenders were replaced by 2 teams that dont belong there.

The only team that suffered due to rain was WI.....rest of them especially PAK lost fair and square. Get that through your heads people..dont be so dense.