Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
fraudia, is that video you mentioned uploaded on youtube googlevideos by any chance?
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
spock, let me try to find it
I cant however share that openly until and unless i get the go ahead from someoen I respect immensely.
but u can read stuff about HT and just ask what happened on UK uni campuses that muslim students wanted them banned mroe than the non muslim ones.
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
oh spock sorry, u meant the video from their conference, u know I dont think its on you tube.. but I had seen a copy of it with their rabid leader just shouting down with a-thru-z. not sure if I can get it again. I will try to find it
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
This HT group is about as representative about Islam, as the "Scientologists" are about Christianity. Both are deviant cults with idiosyncratic beliefs or practices that have no real connection to the mainstream religions.
In the case of HT these people prey on vulnerable youths (especially in colleges or universities), and then as Ehsan chacha has said brainwashing them into spreading their hateful propoganda against not just the west, but also large sections of the Muslim community. They usually do this by handing out their leaflets outside Mosques and other places, while all the time claiming welfare payments from the same western govts they castigate all the time. It's a pity that Blair does not have the same backbone as the Pakistani govt and bans these idiots, and stop them spreading their hate.
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
dyamn boy we agreed again???
qurb e qiyamat…
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
^ Allah kher karey!
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
soon you will be agreeing with me about Musharraf’s corruption as well! 
You have finally seen the light yaar!! …congratulations! 
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
the ht organisation is a peaceful group thats why it wasnt banned. some members of this group carry extreme views, thats why banning was considered. the reasons behined any one member carrying extreme views can possibly be found in our own communities. this is where ht members come from and this is where their views come from!
its the sheer ability of muslims to be cought up as victims of conspiracy theories thats making the members of a pro muslim unity organisation have extreme views. if the word on the street is that muslims are being persecuted then how do you limit a hateful response from lower ranking emotional members of organisations such as this?
heres the titles of some of the artcles by ht, im sure some of you will agree anger towards ht is unwarranted after reading this. the angle on the topics come from the wider community
http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=88
IHT: In Somalia, a reckless U.S. proxy war
Guardian Comment: The trials of occupation
Independent Leader: Not even Saddam’s death will unite Iraq now
Comment: What has long been a catastrophic tragedy is also now a horrific farce
Times Leader: Bush’s last throw
Expatica: Islamic teacher sacked over hand shake
Telegraph Comment: Wealth is gushing up in Britain, not trickling down
Guardian: Religion does more harm than good - poll
Foreign Policy: The List: Private Profits in Iraq
Guardian Leader: Iran - Rhetoric of confrontation
Daily Express: Airport veil farce goes on
Guardian Comment: The war is already lost
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
I agree realdeal …Musharraf is corrupt, no doubt about it, 3.17% of pakistais believe his regime is corrupt. 43% of pakistani believe nawaz was most corrupt and 48% believe that benazir was most corupt 
as far as seeing the light, I was openly opposing HT way before I even got on this site.
If the newbie HT folks go and ask their pals in London if they know who I am they would probably hear many expletives
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
vroom
the whitewash that HT has had since 9/11 and especially since 7/7 is a facade. With the magic of internet, I have access to their previous pages which they scrapped very quickly. That may show you their true face.
I am travelling and dont have my computer with me, but when I am back, I will share those with you guys.
oh and btw the point about HT beleieving that UK laws do NOT apply to them is a fact, ask them and hear them lie until I show you their own literature.
Re: Blair shelves plan to ban Hizb-ut-Tahrir
oh and as far as HT website links go, as a policy GS does not allow links to extremist outfits especially those banned in Pakistan.