Would you like to explain what do you mean by Angoor khatay hain. I never joined nor do I have any intention of joining them. It is not the betterment of Islam or muslims that they are after, but the brain washing of youngsters and using them for their evil purposes. Yes I know people who joined and left them, they have told me, no opposition is tolerated, no one is allowed to question what they say, dictatorial to the core. Not everyone who knows them is lying. Join them and you will soon realise what sort of monsters they are.