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asalamu alaikum

gulake these websites will help u out

1.this site has all about self-treatment for magic

http://daarussalaam.com/

  1. in this site u fill find about magic and jinn and treatment (there are free ebooks you can download)

http://www.kalamullah.com/jinn.html

(in this page this book is quiet helpful> Sword Against Black Magic & Evil Magicians)

(another book jinn and human sickness has also section that tells how to treat magic)

  1. Sheikh Muhammad Waheed,Uae, alayn (he treats people who are under effect of magic, evil eye, jinn possession)

His forum is in arabic >> http://www.alroqyah.com/vb/ , his telephone no. is written in his website.
if you can not find u can ask me.

  1. another ruqyah forum which is in arabic but there is one section in english > http://rouqyah.com/index.php

here is the link in english in which there is a questionaire to know whether u r effected or not..

http://rouqyah.com/showthread.php?t=30839

both these forums have clinic sections but they are in arabic, but if u manage to register there

and go to clinic section and write in english, somebody there will be able to help you.

5.this website has ruqyah audio and surah to listen for those who r effected

http://www.roqyahvoice.com/

  1. this website is in english and they treat who r effected, check the service section, it has telephone no. and email also.

http://www.ruqyah.org/index.html

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honestly krash.....if the difference in the two situations has to be explained to you then I shall ask Restless to start with preschool level lessons for you privately......

Marmalade,

I think they are suggesting that while you can reach Allah on your own, you can be assured of success if you go through an individual more pious than yourself.
I have heard this reasoning before and while it does make sense.....I don't quite agree that the dua of a momin in pain would be denied the same significance before Allah that the dua of a peer/fakeer would gain. Allah knows best.

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first,

I went through the questionnaire that is listed at one of those links and after having answered all 156 or so questions I have come to the conclusion that I am, in no uncertain terms, possessed. And so are several people that I am familiar and/or acquainted with.

May Allah help us all.

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I've heard of this too but I've always been told (and this is what I personally believe in) that we all have a direct link with Allah and that if we pray to him directly and sincerely, He listens to and answers our prayers. Isn't Allah the Most Merciful? I don't believe He would snub the sincere prayer of a Muslim in need. Intercession through peers doesn't sit well with me.

The verses you've quoted implore Muslims to seek pious Muslims as our friends and allies. But doesn't the Quran encourage us to seek good company because it will be a good influence on us? And that good people will be our wellwishers and will be sincere friends? What makes you think it's because the pious ones will intercede on our behalf? Also, ayah 4 of Surah Tahreem says
**'If you two [wives] repent to Allah , [it is best], for your hearts have deviated. But if you cooperate against him - then indeed Allah is his protector, and Gabriel and the righteous of the believers and the angels, moreover, are [his] assistants.' **not the verses you've quoted.

And what about these verses...

'Call upon your Lord in humility and privately; indeed, He does not like transgressors.And cause not corruption upon the earth after its reformation. And invoke Him in fear and aspiration. Indeed, the mercy of Allah is near to the doers of good.'

(7:55 - 56)

***And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided. (2:186)

***and this hadith..
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Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH), "The supplication of every one of you will be granted if he does not get impatient and say (for example): I supplicated my Rubb but my prayer has not been granted
*[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
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The narration of Muslim is: "The supplication of a slave continues to be granted as long as he does not supplicate for a sinful thing or for something that would cut off the ties of kinship and he does not grow impatient.'' It was said: "O Messenger of Allah! What does growing impatient mean?'' He (PBUH) said, "It is one's saying:
I supplicated again and again but I do not think that my prayer will be answered.' Then he becomes frustrated (in such circumstances) and gives up supplication altogether.
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If someone sincerely prays to Allah to lift his affliction, Allah will either grant his wish or reward him in the Hereafter.

Which link had the questionnaire? The first link has malware. :(

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this one:

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I would like to know the difference.

A physical illness is treated by a doctor. A more spiritual illness (or an illness casted on one's mind/soul/thoughts, for lack of better explanation), requires a treatment. Surely, asking Allah for help is neccessary just as it is in case of physical illness. However, in the world of cause-and-effect, Allah has asked us to be more aware of "means".

Sura Falaq and Sura Nas are often deemed enough and we can not dare to say otherwise since it's the words of Allah and must have powerful effect but the context lies in the fact that they were revealed to the Prophet (SAW) when he was struck by a magic. It worked for him. It should work for us. Do we have the same level of Iman and the blessed tongue of the Prophet to have the same effect of these sura on us? If so, by all means, that's all what is needed.

When a person came to Imam Hasan Basri for some help in regards to seeking help in his poverty striken life, Imam asked him to read Astaghfar a thousand times. A sahabi was present at that time and asked Hasan Basri in what capacity, he could advise such to others when Prophet himself never advised to read more than 70-100 times? The reply was rather beautiful stating that when Prophet or his companion used to read Astaghfar, the level of Iman they used to have and concentration on the zikr they used to have, would have sufficed the prescribed number but I asked him to read a thousand times so that he may be able to get 70-100 times with a pure iman and concentration.

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The Jinx,

I don't know if you have misunderstood but your post seems to imply that somewhere I have suggested we should not follow Allah's kalam as a remedy for this spiritual illness. I have not said that.

I simply believe that we can do it ourselves rather than going through the peer/fakeer channel.

Have I understood you?

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duplicate

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Dear First… thank you very much for the detail emails and info…pls let me know have you ever tried any of them…did you get the result…which one do you recommend…?

alroqyah i couldnt find the email tell number i found their email…

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They are generic. Not related with Black magic.

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Everybody has a direct connection.ALLAH listens to everyone.

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A Momin can also be a Fakir.

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A little about the peer/fakir channel.

There was a time, the most learned(religiously + worldly studies) people as well as pious people were dervishes and fakirs. They had so much knowledge that they were also hakims(doctors) of their time. Be it any matter, personal or relating to Islam or medical, people used to come to these people and ask for advise and to make dua for them. Many would become disciples and stay with them.

However, today is a different story. This channel has earned a bad repute due to people making business with things(e.g. Langar etc) associated with sufism and spirituality. Secondly, a dervish doesnt need money, but people in this line charge money for their services. 5% will not charge but 95% will charge.

So people turn to maulvis of the mosques as their external attires speak of beards and islamic dresses. They talk of Ayats and hadith with lots of bismillah and inshALLAH. They maybe be "aalims" but they only possess bookish knowledge.

A dervish possesses bookish as well as spiritual knowledge. He sits not only among humans but also communicates with other creatures that are allowed to communicate with him.Somehow true dervishes are very rare and hard to find.

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Well, then, why don't you highlight that difference and base your argument on that.

Simply saying that we should go directly to God because that is where it came from is not a very convincing argument since EVERYTHING comes from God.

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Gulake,

both these forums hav wealth of information, i hav tried in the sense that i read the articles regarding treatment

in both the ruqyah forums and have applied, and yes the results r good.

u can check the consultancy section & write ur complain, or what u r suffering from.if u r able to register there.

u can see the names of about 9 sheikh’s here, this is the consultancy section :

http://rouqyah.com/forumdisplay.php?f=93

one of the sheikh’s name in this consultancy section
is sheikh Hisham al hashmi( dubai, uae) his telephone no. is written in forum:0097150-5587741

sheikh Muhammad waheed’s consultancy section:

http://www.alroqyah.com/vb/f4.html

Sheikh Muhammad waheed’s telephone no. is written in forum: 0508326902 (inside uae)

00971508326902 (outside uae)

(i hope its allowed in the forum to write the telephone nos.)

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Dear First…thanks but nooo UAE…its against the law here…one can go to jail for this stuff…

do you have other number like people from outside UAE…

In UAE i dare not to contact anyone…pls help me with someone u know and is outside UAE.

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oh gulake i think u misunderstood me, what i wrote in the last sentence is about gupshup forum not ruqyah forum, (i meant i hope its allowed in gupshup forum to write the telephone nos.)

actually sheikh muhammad waheed's no. comes in all his posts, it is like his signature at the end , and its written in arabic his place , and to call that no. for treatment.

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Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaah

I attended two detailed courses based on shaykh waheed Al-Bali's books and a translated Arabic course at my center.

we were given out handouts of "shar3eeh Ruqyah" and also a detailed explanation about how to do ruqyah on oneself if one is affliced by sehr /magic.

In one course, we were given details about the symptoms of people afflicted. Alhamdulillaah, we gave the handouts to many afflicted persons and mashaAllaah, they are improving or are getting better only by the help of Allaah.

I can send you the handouts and other material by email inshaAllaah. you can pm me your emails.

One of my teacher (ustaadhah) may do an online course after Ramadaan (Magic & its cure) but it is ONLY for ladies. so if any sisters are interested, please pm me your email addresses also, so that I can inform you..

may Allaah give you shifaa'
UmmAbdullaah

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