BIRTH OF IMAM MAHDI A.S. IN AHLE SUNNAH

BIRTH OF IMAM MAHDI A.S. IN AHLE SUNNAH

**A number of traditions have been narrated from the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.a.) of Islam and the truthful Imams of Ahle-bayt (a.s.), regarding the uprising of Qaem-al-Mahdi towards the end of this world and his overthrowing the unjust and tyrant rulers and filling the earth with justice and fair play.
Hence the unjust Abbasi caliphs were very much afraid of the uprising of Qaem al Mahdi, They utilized their entire resources to finish him. Ten years before the birth of Hazrat Mahdi (ATFS), the then caliph called his grandfather Imam Ali Naqi (a.s.) from Medina to capital Samarrah so that a close watch can be made on his family.
In the time of Imam Hasan Askari (a.s.), the spies of the government in the forms of doctors midwives and hawkers kept a close watch that im Mahdi-e-Mawood is born he may be immediately killed.
Under these circusmstances it was clear that the birth of Imam al Mahdi will be a concealed one like the birth of Hazrat Ibraheem (a.s.) and Hazrat Moosa (a.s.).
The concealed birth of Imam al Mahdi (a.s.) was taken by some people that he is not born rather he will be born later. We would like to produce certain arguments as evidences to show that Imam al Mahdi (a.s.) is already born.
1-A lots of traditions have been narrated by the Holy Prophet of Islam and Ahlul-bait (a.s.) that “Hazrat Qaem” is the ninth son of Imam Hussain (a.s.), eight son of Imam Zainul Abeadeen (a.s.), and the son of Imam Hasan Askari (a.s.) These types of glad tidings are in plenty. These traditions have been recorded by Shia and Sunni scholars alike in their books and for the truthfulness of these traditions we can, without an iota of doubt say that Imam al Mahdi is already born otherwise their sayings would be counted as false.
2-Imam Hasan Askari himself has said to an Alawi Sayed, Mohammad bin Ali Hamz, “Waliya-e-Khuda and my successor was born on the dawn of 15th Shabaan 255 Hijri”.
3-Imam Hasan Askari (a.s.) has showed his son Hazrat Hujjat to many of his servants and trusted followers (who are sure not to give the message to the Abbasi Caliph) and they have given wittness to the birth of Hazrat-e-Mahdi (a.s.).
One of the servant of Imam Hasan Askari (a.s.) Abu Ganim Khadim says, “A son was born to Imam Hasan Askari (a.s.). He named him as Mohammad.
When the child was three days told, Holy Imam showed him to his companions and told them that this child will be your leader and my successor.”
Hence, Shias without entertaining a slightest doubt believe that Imam al Mahdi (a.s.) is already born to Imam Hasan Askari (a.s.) Their belief on the birth of Imam al Mahdi (a.s.) is as their belief in the birth of Prophet of Islam (s.a.w.a.). As far as Ahle Sunnat are concerned, practically all of them believe in “The reality of Mahdaviyat” but they say that Imam al Mahdi (a.s.) will be born in Akheruz-Zaman.
IT IS NOT AT ALL SUPRISING THAT A FEW OF GREAT UNBAISED AHLE SUNNAT SCHOLARS, HEARING THE CALL OF THEIR CONSCIENCE, TRYING TO PROTECT THE TRUST OF HISTORY HAVE MENTIONED IN THEIR BOOKS IMAM AL MAHDI (A.S.) IS ALREADY BORN TO IMAM HASAN ASKARI (A.S.).
The writings of these Ahle Sunnat Scholars are centered around this quotation, “Abul Qasim Mohammad bin Askari was born in Samarrah in the year 255A.H. or some other year.
He is the same Mahdi Mawood who is mentioned in reliable and correct Ahle Sunnat traditions and there is not at all any possibility that he may be some other person”.

THE AHLE SUNNAT SCHOLARS WHO BELIEVE ON THE BIRTH OF IMAM AL MAHDI :

Late Shaikh Najmudden al Askari in the first chapter of his book 'Al Mahdi al Mawood al Muntazar' have mentioned the names of forty Ahle Sunnat Scholars who accepted the birth of Imam al Mahdi (a.s.) Similarly the contemprory scholar Shaikh Lutfullah Safi in his book Muntakabul Asar has mentioned the names of 26 Ahle sunnat Scholars who are of the opinion that Imam al Mahdi is already born. Here we are quoting 20 narrations for brevity. Those who are intrested in more references they may please refer to following books and also other books written on this topic. 1.Mohammad Ibn Talha Halabi ash Shafaee in his book "Matalibus-Sool fi-Manaqibe Ale Rasool" says, "The twelveth chapter about Abil Qasim Mohammed ibn Hasan------Al Mahdi, The Proof (of Allah), The Caliph, The pious The Awaited----then he was born in Samarraa--till the end of his statement. And he also says, "Al Mahdi, he is the son of Hasan Askari and he was born in Samarah."-----till the end of the statement.` 2. Mohammed bin Yousof al Ganji shafaee in his book "Al Bayan fi Akhbare Sahibuz zaman, page 336 says, "Surely Mahdi is the son of Hasan Al Askari he is alive, and existing from Ghaibat till now. 3. Mohammed bin Ahmad Maliki famous as Ibn-Sabbagh in his book Fusool-ul-Mohimmah" page 273 Says "Abu Qasim Mohammed Hujjat Ibn-Hasan-e-Askari was born in Samarrah in 255 AH"------till the end. 4. Sibte-Ibn Jauzi-e-Hanafi in his book "Tazkertul Khawas" page 88 (old edition) says. His son (i.e. son of Imam Hasan-e-Askari) is Mohammed who is Imma." Then again he says in the chapter of "Hujjat-al-Mahdi"---"He is Mohammed bin Hasan bin Ali ----- and his Kunniyat is Abul Qasim and he is last Hujjat. The master of time. The Qaem and Awaited and he is last of the Imam"------till end of the statements. 5. Ahmed bin Hajar Al-Makki in his book Sawaiq-al-Mohreqah page 127, while discussing about Imam Hasan-e-Askari says, "Other than Abul Qasim Mohammed-al-Hujjat he did not have any successor. And his age at the death of his father was five years and Allah gave him wisdom"------THE END---

References :

1. Shabrawi Shafaee Book : Al-Athaaf be hubbil Ashraaf 2. Abdul wahab-e-Sha'araani Book : Al Yawa qeet-o-wal Jawaahir 3. Sheikh Abdullah Madani Shafaee Book : Ar-Riyaazy uz Zaahirah 4. Serajuddeen Ar Rafai Book : Sehaah ul Akhbaar 5. Al Ustaz Behjat Afandi Book : Muhaakamah 6. Al Hafiz Mohammed bin Mohammed Hanafi Nakshbandi Book : Faslul Khitab. 7. Sulayman Qonduzi-e-Hanafee Book : Yanabee ul Mawaddah. 8. Sablanjee-e-Shafaee Book : Noor ul Absaar. 9. Ibn Khallakaan. Book : Wafayaat-ul-Ayaan 10. Ibn Khashshab Book : Tarikh-o-Mawaaleedil Aimmah 11. Abdul Haq Dahlavi. Book : Risalah -fi- Ahwal-e-Aimmah 12. Mohammed Ameen Baghdadi Sowaidi Book : Sabaaek-uz-Zahab**

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This info is pretty interesting and **new **to me since it comes from our (ahle sunnah) sources.

I'd like to further dig into this topic.

Please provide me more links and text to find out my main concern:

Has he already been born?

Jazak Allah khair,

Ajmal.

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you can see in one thread mr jaanleva refused to accept this truth and when i presented this he is silent and not answering here. because knows he is wrong and his duty is only to divide muslims in so many small groups.
wassalam

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AGAIN, **none **of the hadiths mentioned say that he will:

  • Disappear and live in cave

  • He will be *shia
    *

  • The hadiths contain what we need to know, how he looks and what will happen once its time for him to take the pledge of the people.

  • Living in cave or being born 1300+ years ago and then disappearing is a HUGE HUGE HUGE piece of detail that prophet Mohammad could have mentioned in his hadiths but we do not find that so to induldge in these "my imam and your imam" is kinda useless and counterproductive. We are all awaiting his arrival. He is alive or not, is in cave or not does not make any difference as it is not helping any Muslim by any means.

Instead of cluttering your whole post, try to format your post so that important piece of information sticks out for the reader and it is less confusing.

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so you insult and reject your own scholars and books...
**. Shabrawi Shafaee Book : Al-Athaaf be hubbil Ashraaf
2. Abdul wahab-e-Sha'araani
Book : Al Yawa qeet-o-wal Jawaahir
3. Sheikh Abdullah Madani Shafaee
Book : Ar-Riyaazy uz Zaahirah
4. Serajuddeen Ar Rafai
Book : Sehaah ul Akhbaar
5. Al Ustaz Behjat Afandi
Book : Muhaakamah
6. Al Hafiz Mohammed bin Mohammed Hanafi Nakshbandi
Book : Faslul Khitab.
7. Sulayman Qonduzi-e-Hanafee
Book : Yanabee ul Mawaddah.
8. Sablanjee-e-Shafaee
Book : Noor ul Absaar.
9. Ibn Khallakaan.
Book : Wafayaat-ul-Ayaan
10. Ibn Khashshab
Book : Tarikh-o-Mawaaleedil Aimmah
11. Abdul Haq Dahlavi.
Book : Risalah -fi- Ahwal-e-Aimmah
12. Mohammed Ameen Baghdadi Sowaidi
Book : Sabaaek-uz-Zahab

Surprise. Are you really a muslim?
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LOL!

Don't give me name of the book and author, any moron can do that. Tell me what is *written *in those books about Mahdi.

Again, NONE of the hadiths or books or scholar say that mahdi will:

  • Disappear and live in cave

    • He will be *shia *
    • The hadiths contain what we need to know, how he looks and what will happen once its time for him to take the pledge of the people.
    • Living in cave or being born 1300+ years ago and then disappearing is a HUGE HUGE HUGE piece of detail that prophet Mohammad could have mentioned in his hadiths but we do not find that so to induldge in these "my imam and your imam" is kinda useless and counterproductive. We are all awaiting his arrival. He is alive or not, is in cave or not does not make any difference as it is not helping any Muslim by any means.

Instead of cluttering your whole post, try to format your post so that important piece of information sticks out for the reader and it is less confusing.

A muslim reasons but he doesn't confuse the readers and all you are doing is misleading and giving wrong information along with confusing the readers and sadly everybody but you realise that. Don't push Abdullah bin sabah stories down our throats, you are posting with an agenda here which is misleading, confusing and providing information from shia sources which are doubtful.

Names of the book and author hold no mean when you can't quote any text from them.

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** IT IS NOT AT ALL SUPRISING THAT A FEW OF GREAT UNBAISED AHLE SUNNAT SCHOLARS, HEARING THE CALL OF THEIR CONSCIENCE, TRYING TO PROTECT THE TRUST OF HISTORY HAVE MENTIONED IN THEIR BOOKS IMAM AL MAHDI (A.S.) IS ALREADY BORN TO IMAM HASAN ASKARI (A.S.).
The writings of these Ahle Sunnat Scholars are centered around this quotation, "Abul Qasim Mohammad bin Askari was born in Samarrah in the year 255A.H. or some other year.
He is the same Mahdi Mawood who is mentioned in reliable and correct Ahle Sunnat traditions and there is not at all any possibility that he may be some other person". **

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WHICH "great and unbiased" scholars?

Their names?

Their books?

What did they say?

Bolding your text doesn't make any difference...

If i say:

Great Shia scholars say that Imam mahdi is not in a cave.

Would you want to know or ask "which shia scholars said that?" Where he said it? In which book he said it? What page of the book? What volumn?

And we are back to square one!

Again, **NONE **of the hadiths or books or scholar say that mahdi will:

  • Disappear and live in cave

    • He will be *shia *
    • The hadiths contain what we need to know, how he looks and what will happen once its time for him to take the pledge of the people.
    • Living in cave or being born 1300+ years ago and then disappearing is a HUGE HUGE HUGE piece of detail that prophet Mohammad could have mentioned in his hadiths but we do not find that so to induldge in these "my imam and your imam" is kinda useless and counterproductive. We are all awaiting his arrival. He is alive or not, is in cave or not does not make any difference as it is not helping any Muslim by any means.

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we are all waiting for Imam Mahdi (a.s.) to arrive...lets just hope He arrives soon and rule this world

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I don't know if many of you here have known about one of the main events which will authenticate the existence of Imam Mahdi (a.s) [at the end of this event, it will become clear to people, who Imam Mahdi (the guided one) is].

It is mentioned in the Hadeeth (the reference I will post later), that an army will rise from Khorasan which will establish black flags on top of the Masjid Al-Aqsa.

I will post the original Hadeeth soon.

Now, those of you who have studied / or read about the history of Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan, might be able to better understand what this Hadeeth means.

This area of Khorasaan, is located in what is now** (mostly) Eastern Iran, South Central Afghanistan, Southern Turkmenistan, and a small part of Pakistan**. Even today, Khorasaan is a province of Iran.

There have been many armies in the past which rose from Khorasaan, which estabilished black flags on top of Masjids. But none of them ever made it to Masjid Al-Aqsa.

Now regarding black flags... currently the most popular groups/armies using black flags are Al-Qaeda and Lashkar-e-Taiba. Now, this does not mean what these groups are doing is correct, nor am I saying that I support these groups. But I am just giving an example of what the army of Khorasan may be like (& no, I am not referring to the inhumane activities of Al-Qaeda). There are plenty of other groups as well, inside Iran, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan who carry black flags, but these were the only two I could remember at this time.

The significance of Black Flags traces back to the time of our Prophet Mohammed (pbuh). I will not go into detail, but I will say it was meant to be used only during war-time. It was not a national flag (or a symbol) which represented the people in normalcy. And, it was only meant to be carried by the military.

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There is hardly any evidence that Imam Hassan Al askari even had a son. After his death his brother declared himself to be an Imam, showing that he had not nominated his son to succeed him. Shias of the time were thrown into many sects at that time bcoz of no Imam, as the Imam left no son.

It was Uthman Ibn Said, who claimed that Imam had a son as he used to collect Khums from shiites and this arrangemnt of being representative of hidden Imam suited him best.

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Related information at link below:

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Thanks for the Hadeeth.

I will come back to this topic, soon.

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Ameen . do you know why some like jaanleva refuse because they fear to face Imam mahdi (a.s).
wassalam

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smma, where did you read that I "refuse?" Refuse what?

I said, **NONE **of the hadiths or books or scholar say that mahdi will:

  • Disappear and live in cave

    • He will be *shia *
    • The hadiths contain what we need to know, how he looks and what will happen once its time for him to take the pledge of the people.
    • Living in cave or being born 1300+ years ago and then disappearing is a HUGE HUGE HUGE piece of detail that prophet Mohammad could have mentioned in his hadiths but we do not find that so to induldge in these "my imam and your imam" is kinda useless and counterproductive. We are all awaiting his arrival. He is alive or not, is in cave or not does not make any difference as it is not helping any Muslim by any means.

WHAT PART OF THAT has the "refuse" part that you accused me of? You INVENT a lie against me as you have been doing in your other posts with twisting and turning facts. Grow the hell up.

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I started topic BIRTH OF IMAM MAHDI A.S. IN AHLE SUNNAH and you must read article once more to understand what is written in that article. Ref is given for conveying the messege of article only.

So if you trust these scholars say yes to what is written in article and accept the truth and if you think they were mazallah liers then confirm it.

why you are going out of this topic? Any way few years back I had written an article which i also published here specially for young muslims..

How Satan, the Master Hypnotist, hypnotizes humanity and i also request you to read to realise what you are doing exactly..

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=227928

wassalam

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Again, merely naming the scholar and their book doesn’t mean you’ve proven your self. :hehe:

Lets do this again, **NONE **of the hadiths or books or scholar say that mahdi will:

  • Disappear and live in cave

  • He will be *shia

  • The hadiths contain what we need to know, how he looks and what will happen once its time for him to take the pledge of the people.

  • Living in cave or being born 1300+ years ago and then disappearing is a HUGE HUGE HUGE piece of detail that prophet Mohammad could have mentioned in his hadiths but we do not find that so to induldge in these “my imam and your imam” is kinda useless and counterproductive. We are all awaiting his arrival. He is alive or not, is in cave or not does not make any difference as it is not helping any Muslim by any means.

And to further beat down your argument:

Why is he hiding?

Where is he hiding?

Why didn’t the prophet say that Imam mahdi will be born and then reappear after 1300, 1400, 1500, 1600 years?

Why didn’t the prophet say that Imam mahdi will be living in cave for 1300+ years?

Why didn’t the prophet say that imam mahdi will be of “shia” sect?

If he can tell us that Imam mahdi will come in his hadiths, couldn’t he add little more detail and say he will live in cave for 100s of years???

THE HADITHS ARE clear cut. **None **mention him to live 1300+ years, none mention him to be shia, none mention him to live in cave for so many years…

You have done a lot of things in this thread but logic and reasoning isn’t one of them. STop believing and creating fantasies and come to terms with the facts, truth and logical thought.

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Interesting.

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**

Do you think haz. Isssa live in caves? Perhaps yes…**

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Man you have to get Ismailies to beleive you first ????

Some thing which parted Shia's cannot be accepted as arrgument. Also In Hadith it is said that Imam Mehdi's name name will be Mohammed and his Father's name will be Abdullah. I don't have my books with me otherwise could have quoted the chapter and Rawaya. Again Muslim, Christian and Jews they are informed about it and also the re-appearance of Hazrat Isa (A.s) There is no question about it.

Hadith also mentions that when he will be forty then people will recognize him. NOT 1400 year.