What is known about this guy?
What is believed?
How do majority Shia’s feel about him?
Do you think if met concidered likable?
Re: Biography of Al Sadr?
Good question :D
I wanna know about this guy too.
He's a basically a junior cleric. I read somewhere that if he were to do another 11 years of religious scholarship, then he would achive the rank of Ayatollah.
His dad used to be the most widely followed and respected Grand Ayatollah in Iraq (kind of the role that Sistani plays today), and his dad and brother were killed in 1999 by men believed to be Saddam's agents.
Sadr drew his initial support base from his dad's supporters after the USA occupied Iraq. However, since then, he has been the only prominent Shia cleric to vehemently oppose the coalition's rule, and this meant that Iraqis flcoked to support him. His active backers grew from a few thousand in May 2003, to tens of thousands (at the very least, maybe even hundreds of thousands) by April 2004. God knows how many passive supporters he may have, people who back what he's doing but are afraid to take part in it themselves - you can only be purely speculative, it may be millions.
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*Originally posted by mAd_ScIeNtIsT: *
He's a basically a junior cleric. I read somewhere that if he were to do another 11 years of religious scholarship, then he would achive the rank of Ayatollah.
His dad used to be the most widely followed and respected Grand Ayatollah in Iraq (kind of the role that Sistani plays today), and his dad and brother were killed in 1999 by men believed to be Saddam's agents.
Sadr drew his initial support base from his dad's supporters after the USA occupied Iraq. However, since then, he has been the only prominent Shia cleric to vehemently oppose the coalition's rule, and this meant that Iraqis flcoked to support him. His active backers grew from a few thousand in May 2003, to tens of thousands (at the very least, maybe even hundreds of thousands) by April 2004. God knows how many passive supporters he may have, people who back what he's doing but are afraid to take part in it themselves - you can only be purely speculative, it may be millions.
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I just know he's 30 years old. And my little bro is a supporter of him too :D
But it's not easy to get such support at that age. Haina?
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*Originally posted by little human: *
I just know he's 30 years old. And my little bro is a supporter of him too :D
But it's not easy to get such support at that age. Haina?
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True. Like I said, he got most of his initial support though being the only surviving son of Ayatollah As-Sadr. But the current majority of his support seems to have come through his being the only Shia cleric in Iraq to have the courage and bravery to stand up against the overwhelming firepower of the USA.
In case you haven't picked up on it already, I'm cautiously leaning towards being at least a sympathiser (though I wouldn't quite say supporter) of him too :)
sympathiser also
Here’s what I found doing google
One more
^Why I am surprised :konfused:
Sadr is a revolutionary capitalising on popular sentiments. Ayatollah Sistani is a politician. The reason sadr got huge support was because of the random killlings and mistreatment of iraqi civilians by the americans. For this reason, even people who are muqallids of Ayatullah Sistani have become supporters of the uprising as initially there werent even that many.
MS,
To become an Ayatollah does not guarantee a following. To be a Ma'arjae Taqleed, and get the unanimous religious following like Ayatollah Sistani takes way more than 11 years.
There are many Ayatollahs (students of religious sciences and jurisprudence who may reach the level of Ijtihad) but only select few become a Ma'arja (only about 11 are around at present).
Sadr is not above the system of Ma'arjeh and is bound by it. So in reality there is no rift between either Sadr or the Ma'arjehs. But compared to the likes of Ayatullah Ali al Sistani, he is relatively still a junior.
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*Originally posted by humhaipakistani: *
Sadr is a revolutionary capitalising on popular sentiments. Ayatollah Sistani is a politician. The reason sadr got huge support was because of the random killlings and mistreatment of iraqi civilians by the americans. For this reason, even people who are muqallids of Ayatullah Sistani have become supporters of the uprising as initially there werent even that many.
MS,
To become an Ayatollah does not guarantee a following. To be a Ma'arjae Taqleed, and get the unanimous religious following like Ayatollah Sistani takes way more than 11 years.
There are many Ayatollahs (students of religious sciences and jurisprudence who may reach the level of Ijtihad) but only select few become a Ma'arja (only about 11 are around at present).
Sadr is not above the system of Ma'arjeh and is bound by it. So in reality there is no rift between either Sadr or the Ma'arjehs. But compared to the likes of Ayatullah Ali al Sistani, he is relatively still a junior.
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Wow thanks for the info :)
batameez
I asked...and by the sentence I wrote....surprized you understood sort of what I meant to ask:)
What is believed?
His believes or the Shias?
His beliefs. Well both I guess.
Excluding understandable anger of the Iraqi people at coalition occupation..
Would he have or did he have as large support if cif cumstances different?
Do you think if he selected as leader by Iraqi people that he would be a good choice?
Is he open toward any democratic principles?
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*Originally posted by PurelyAvgGirl: *
batameez
I asked...and by the sentence I wrote....surprized you understood sort of what I meant to ask:)
What is believed?
His believes or the Shias?
His beliefs. Well both I guess.
*hmm... talking on their religion or their beliefs on the ongoing war? *
Excluding understandable anger of the Iraqi people at coalition occupation..
Would he have or did he have as large support if cif cumstances different?
*If the cicumstances are different, like God Forbid, Najaf is attacked by the US troops then his support will sky rocket and sistani and his supporter (the chances are all the Shias) will wend/go with him ... *
Do you think if he selected as leader by Iraqi people that he would be a good choice?
*Unlikely as he doesn't have the support from the majority of sunnis and most of the shias are still with sistani who have urge restrain on both parties .. very much depends on how the things are gonna go in the days ahead ... *
Is he open toward any democratic principles?
*Hard to answer .... depends on what the iraqis/shias consider as democratic and what the US consider as democratic ... *
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