Bin Ladens latest tape / translation [Merged]

Latest recording is of poor quality. Threatens “heart of your land” aka “heartland” aka my stomping grounds. Chances of a dance off have significantly gone up.


Tape warns Americans of impending attacks, offers truce

CNN – CIA officials believe an audiotaped message threatening the United States is from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, who warns that plans for terror attacks are under way – and also offers a “long-term truce.”

“The war against America and its allies will not be confined to Iraq,” the voice on the tape said, adding that “Iraq has become a magnet for attracting and training talented fighters.”

“It’s only a matter of time,” the voice said, referring to attacks. “They are in the planning stages, and you will see them in the heart of your land as soon as the planning is complete.”

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/19/binladen.tape/index.html

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How much bakwas is this? Its perfectly pathetic how the kid "couldnt" get to a perfectly decent tape recorder.

You people know nothing. There are Tape recorders even in the hills of Afganistan. With perfectly funtional record buttons and a clear result.

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very convenient, another terror threat to distract the sheeple from the real news

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Quality of the tape aside, utd, what do you think of his message this time around? If I am not wrong, he has spoken after a year, unlike Zawahiri, who speaks every month (and thus got bombed last week).

I suppose for most Americans, taking their military out of so-called "muslim lands" is not an option because of huge natural resources there (i.e. oil). So they are willing to chance it out and brow-beat the "enemy". Not to mention that leaving Iraq and Afghanistan at this point, will look like a "defeat" (which it most likely is and will just get worse with time). So all options seem like lose-lose right now for the Bush Administration.

The one silver lining will be if they can capture or kill him, to show the world, literally, who is the boss here. However, an organization like Al-Qaida is difficult to crush just by killing its leader. We'll be back to square one if US kills/captures Osama and still ends up at the receiving end of another devastating attack.

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Faisal its so much ultimate rubbish thats its crazy. they have now declared that al-quaeda is firmly based in Iraq, Zawahiri being their new "god" right? (sp) something or the other is now the firm leader-in-control. It is tres convienient to have this figure though. Its not in their interest (still) to kill him.

He is a redundant head of state now, much like the queen. He makes a speech once and year and thats all we hear from him.

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I am not making comparisons here, but throughout world history pretty much all rebel leaders are branded as "traitors" and "criminals", at least initially. Most, not all, of them have bigger aims, like taking over the entire country and enforcing their ideology. Zarqawi and his ilk are the same. They have grand ideas about themselves. That, by itself, is not the main issue here. The larger issue is how to resolve this growing conflict between two vastly different ideologies so that innocent lives are spared.

During the last one year, we had seen the huge terrorist attack in London, which this organization claims to have carried out. Prior to that we had seen many deaths in Spain as well. Either the powers-that-be can underestimate them or they can face up to the challange and capture/destroy the organization or think of another way to break the impasse.

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what "real news"?

BTW, about time someone posted a thread about the "villain".

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Embrace those who aQ claim to be fighting for. Bin Laden and his ilk aren't your average Muslim by any means. Contrary to what some might post the U.S. has not spent large sums of resources fighting Islamic fundamentalists because it's afraid that the Islamic caliphate is going to return, no it's spent large sums of money fighting Islamic fundamentalists because they are fundamentalists who use violence to spread their message. If 9/11 didn't happen U.S. doesn't go into Afghanistan, unless it's to build a pipeline. Just as nearly as important as winning on the ground against aQ is the perception by others on what you’re doing. The Bush teams seem to forget that if you shoot first ask questions later you might end up getting some pretty nasty and unexpected answers. Unfortunately this administration is a very stubborn one which doesn’t mix well with such a complicated problem.

In order to win this one you’re going to have the win (I hate to say it) the hearts and minds of the Islamic world. Obviously that’s not happening.

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The questions that should be asked are:
Why would bin Laden, sitting in a large Pakistani city with the protection of the ISI, need to make such an unclear tape?
None of the caputerd, by Pakistani forces no less, leaders of the terrorists were in the hilly border. They have all been captured in large cities. Like most people, I suspect Bin Laden is sitting in GHQ having tea and samosa with Musharraf.

Bin Laden's latest tape translation.

In the name of Allah the most gracious the most beneficent.

Peace be upon those who followed the guidance

My message to you about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and the way to end it; I
was not intending the to speak about this subject, because for us it’s obvious;
blood for blood, and all grace be to Allah our situation is from better to best
while your situation is the opposite.

What motivated me to speak out is the repeated fallacies made up by your
president Bush commentating on the polls’ results that showed the great majority
amongst you desiring a pull out of the American troops from Iraq. However, he
(Bush) objected to this aspiration and alleged that pulling out the troops would
give a wrong message to the opponent and that it’s better to fight them on their
land instead of them fighting us on our land.

In my hands the response to these great fallacies; I say that the war in Iraq is
boiling up without end, and the operations in Afghanistan in continuous rise to
our side, all grace be to Allah. And the Pentagon’s numbers declare the rise of
death and injuries toll, needless to mention the grave material loss and the
mental defeat of the soldiers and the mounting of suicides among them. You can
imagine the psychological defeat of the soldiers picking up the remains of their
comrades after stepping into a mine, and after such a situation the soldier
becomes between two fires, either refuses to go out of his barricade and getting
punished by Vietnam’s butcher, or accepting to go out turning into a meal for
the mines’ monster. The soldier is between two choices the best of them is
bitter making him under extreme psychological pressure, fear, humiliation, and
oppression. While his people turn their faces away from him.
Therefore, this soldier finds no other solution except committing suicide and
that is what you hear about him and about his suicide; a message to you written
by his soul, blood, fear, regret, and pain so you would save what you can save
from this hellfire, and the solution is in your hands if the matter concerns
you.

However, the news about our brothers the Mujahedeen is quiet different from what
the pentagon publishes. What is published in the media is not the whole truth or
the reality on the ground. What makes the doubts greater is the information
leaked out about the intentions of the white house administration in targeting
media stations that are trying to publish some of the truth, and it’s been
surfaced lately with documentations how the world’s freedom butcher had intended
to bomb the offices of Aljazeera in Qatar after bombing its offices in
Afghanistan and Baghdad, although with all its setbacks.

On the other hand, Jihad is continuing, all grace be to Allah, despite all the
atrocities committed by the American army and its agents, to a point where there
is no differentiation between its crimes and those of Saddam’s. Its crimes
reached raping women, and abducting them as hostages instead of their husbands.

As for torturing men, it reached a point where they are using chemical acids,
using drills to drill their joints, and setting people on their heads till they
die. Read if you wish the human watch reports concerning the grave tortures in
Abu Ghraib, Guntanamo, and Baghram.

Let me say, despite all the sadistic means used, they did not break up the
sharp blade of the resistance or the Mujahedeen, all grace be to Allah. Instead
the resistance is rising stronger. All the reports show that the defeat and
grave failure for the cursed quadruples; Bush, Cheney, Ramsfield, and Wolfowits;
the publishing of this defeat is only a matter of time, associated only with the
awareness of the American people about the magnitude of this misery. And the
wise among you knows that Bush does not have a plan to reach his alleged victory
in Iraq. If you would compare the small number of deaths when Bush announced his
fake declaration on top of the airplanes’ carrier; the termination of the grand
operations, if you would compare that with the tenth of times numbers of deaths
and injuries with the small operations, you would know the fact about what I say
and that Bush and his administration do not have the desire nor the intention to
pull out of Iraq, all that is due to their own suspicious agenda.

This takes me back to the original subject, I say that the polls’ results are
accepted by the wise amongst you, and that Bush’s refute is based on falsehoods
and the facts are the witness that the war against America and its allies is not
anymore limited to Iraq as he claims, instead Iraq became a point of attraction
and rehabilitation of power from one side, and from the other side the
Mujahedeen were able , all grace be to Allah, to infringe all the security means
taken by the oppressing allied governments one time after another. The proof for
that is what you have witnessed from the explosions inside the most important
capitals of the European states allied with the atrocities.

As for the delay in similar operations in America, is not because the
incapability to pierce your security measures, the operations are under
preparation and you will see them in your own homeland as soon as they are
ready, Allah is willing.

Based on the above, there appear Bush’s falsehoods. However, the one thing that
he avoided, and it’s the core of the polls; it’s better not to fight Muslims on
their lands, or them fighting us on our land.

We do not mind to answer you for a long truce with fair conditions, we commit
ourselves to it, since we are a nation that forbids betrayals and lies. Let both
sides live in peace and feel safe. Let us rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan that were
destroyed by the war. There is no shame in solutions, except that it will stop
the flow of hundreds of billions to the ones in command and the war lords in
America, those who helped Bush in his election with billions of dollars. From
here we can understand Bush and his gang’s persistence in a continuous war.

Therefore, if you agree on the truce and living in peace, you will find us
agreeing and responding with the same. However, if Bush refuses and continues in
his lies and oppression, it’s beneficial to read the introduction of a book the
**** State: if I was a president I will stop the operations against the United
States by; first, I will apologize to every widow, orphan, and all those who
were tortured, and I will then announce that the American intervention had ended
for ever.

Finally, I tell you that the victory in this war is either ours or yours. If
it’s the premier, you will come out disgraced for ever, and it’s in this way the
circumstances are flowing all grace be to Allah. And if it was the latter, read
the history and you will know that we are a nation that does not sleep on
defeat, and that we will seek revenge for ever, and that the days and nights
will not pass until we revenge, like we did in September 11, Allah is willing.
And you will continue to live in disgrace and fear and in the end you will be
defeated.

As for us we have nothing to loose, who swims in the ocean does not fear the
rain. You have occupied our land, you have attacked our honor and dignity, you
have spilled our blood, you have stolen our wealth, you have destroyed our
homes, and you have smashed our security. We will make you feel the same.

You have tried to prevent us from living with dignity, but you won’t be able to
prevent us from dying with dignity. Sitting down and leaving Jihad behind in our
religion is a great sin that we fear. And dying under the swords’ shades is the
best that we wish for. Do not be deceived with your power and your armaments, it
can only make you win some battles but you will loose the war. Patience and
standing fast is better than what you have, and it’s the ends what you should be
watching for.

We were patient fighting the Soviet Union with small humble arms for ten years,
we depleted their economy till they vanished, all grace be to Allah. You should
take a lesson from that, we will be patient fighting you, Allah’s willing, till
either one of us dies. We will never run away from fighting you until the end.

I swore that I will not die except free….despite the bitter taste of death

Peace be upon those who followed the guidance
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^ Source??

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Wow, the man who planned murders of innocents in London, Bali, Madrid, 9/11 quoting reports from Human Rights Watch. Anybody know what HRW said about his best buddies the Taliban?

Makes you throw up in your mouth.

Hunt this jackal down and bury him in a pile of pig crap.

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The latest i heard of the tapes were of him kidnapping an AMerican gal and wants the us to release all the Iraqi women prisoners inexchange and he also asked the Americans to read Rogue state: A guide to the worlds only superpower by william Blum.
could be an old News to yall but i just heard it yesterday on Msnbc.

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:rotfl:

Did you write this to give us a laugh? I mean seriously? In case, by mistake you did it seriously, go thru newspapers of May-July of 2001 and you’ll know US would’ve landed in Afghanistan irrespective of 9/11 :wink: