Bin Laden's Endorsement of Kerry

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

Yeah, well Kerry believed he voted for the bill before he voted against it and he's still a viable candidate for President. So... what's your point?
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Demanding to know how that money is going to be spent isn't a bad thing myvoice, when you allow something like the Bush admin. To spend money without accountability things like troops being sent to Iraq without the proper gear occurs.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *
Seriously, who believed that Hamas was behind the Oklahoma city bombing? The NY Post writer or someone at the Middle East Media Research Institute? I could care less what some idiot writer for the Post thinks just like I could care less what Dan Rather thinks.

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That's great mv. The author from MEMRI believed Hamas was behind the OKC bombing so as I said, take his analysis with a grain of salt.

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Ahmadjee my friend,

"Anyway, articles like these show that Americans haven’t quiet grasped the idea of terrorism, the organizations behind them and how to fight against it. They consider such organizations as Al-Qaida to be sophisticated networks of highly qualified evil people, pretty much like the Hollywood movies."

OBL is a deadman walking. The one thing that Americans do not have is patience. Yet with OBL, we will be as patient as we need to be. He will screw up, or someone will turn against him. It only takes one.

What makes you think that we do not know how to disrupt terrorist organizations? They are human. They leave tracks. They have enemies, and they can be found. Americans just need to take a longer view. I have just finished reading "1000 Years for Revenge", which takes a lot of the Oringinal Documents from the first WTC bombing in '93, and establishes a timeline. It is clear that the FBI was terribly unfocused during the '90's on terrorism. They really did not care, and it showed in their work. Do you think that changed with 9-11? Do you think that every CIA agent became twice as motivated? Do you think that funding for all types of anti-terror activities has increased 10 fold? Not just defensive tactics, but tactics that take the offensive. By the time the terrorist makes it to our soil, we have already lost.

The truth is that OBL has not struck the United States again. That is his goal, not putting out propaganda tapes. All he can do now is talk. Are there more world wide violent jihadi's today? YES! The fight is on! Brace yourself for a decade or two. This will be a very long fight....

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

Yeah, well Kerry believed he voted for the bill before he voted against it and he's still a viable candidate for President. So... what's your point?

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This has been so rich coming from Bush supporters. They have played this mangling of words by Kerry to the point of absurdity. It is so rich because never in our history have we had any public figure make as many gaffes with the English language as this president. Don't take my word for it, there are websites, books, calendars, DVDs, videos and Daily Bushisms you can check out for yourself. The fact that the GOP has held onto this "i voted for it before i voted against it" shows how desperate they are (since they don't have a record to run on) and how blind they are to their own candidate's faults.

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*Originally posted by underthedome: *

That's great mv. The author from MEMRI believed Hamas was behind the OKC bombing so as I said, take his analysis with a grain of salt.
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I'd like to see some supporting information on this UTD. First off, I don't think there is an "author from MEMRI" that penned anything with respect to the article I cited. There is a NY Post writer who "authored" the story. But, it is my understanding that MEMRI, as an organization, employs a whole bunch of linguists who interpret various things that appear in the Middle East. It is my understanding that they put some of their arabic language experts to the task of interpreting the arabic language used by OBL. The organization has now published its interpretation of the arabic. Publications that routinely use MEMRI's interpretations include BBC, Newsweek, Die Weld, UPI, Thomas Friedman. Weekly Standard and many others.

Now MEMRI has interpreted something that OBL said in a way that you find detrimental to the candidate you want to be President and all you offer is your statement that some "author" believed Hamas was behind the OKC bombing. ** Exactly which MEMRI interpreter are you claiming believed HAMAS was behind the OKC bombing? **

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OG Bhaijaan,

I envy your optimism even if it sounds like a clip from Top Gun but I do share your goals. I didn't say anywhere in my post that Osama can't be targeted. Nor did I say that toughening up on security is not the right thing to do. What I did point out is the immaturity of American law enforcement, military, public policy & the general attitude of the American people who "misunderestimate" the nature of the problem as limited to the Jihadi organizations. It is a problem of American Image and we can't promise our next generation the "safety" until we elect a President who at least has a policy towards improving America's image. Didn’t you say in one of your threads that it is not what you do, it is how you do it that matters around the world. So, has Bush Administration even considered that point?

If Bush (or Kerry) is the right person for the job, can anyone promise me that 2 decades from now I can come back from a long flight home & have my wife meet me at the concourse & not at the baggage claim?

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

I'd like to see some supporting information on this UTD. First off, I don't think there is an "author from MEMRI" that penned anything with respect to the article I cited. There is a NY Post writer who "authored" the story. But, it is my understanding that MEMRI, as an organization, employs a whole bunch of linguists who interpret various things that appear in the Middle East. It is my understanding that they put some of their arabic language experts to the task of interpreting the arabic language used by OBL. The organization has now published its interpretation of the arabic. Publications that routinely use MEMRI's interpretations include BBC, Newsweek, Die Weld, UPI, Thomas Friedman. Weekly Standard and many others.

Now MEMRI has interpreted something that OBL said in a way that you find detrimental to the candidate you want to be President and all you offer is your statement that some "author" believed Hamas was behind the OKC bombing. ** Exactly which MEMRI interpreter are you claiming believed HAMAS was behind the OKC bombing? **
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I'm familiar with MEMRI, I've actually sited them for an article on this site 2.5 years ago. Don't get me wrong the author has high credentials including being a former terror Intel. Advisor for Israel. That said everyone has an agenda.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

I'd like to see some supporting information on this UTD. First off, I don't think there is an "author from MEMRI" that penned anything with respect to the article I cited. There is a NY Post writer who "authored" the story. But, it is my understanding that MEMRI, as an organization, employs a whole bunch of linguists who interpret various things that appear in the Middle East. It is my understanding that they put some of their arabic language experts to the task of interpreting the arabic language used by OBL. The organization has now published its interpretation of the arabic. Publications that routinely use MEMRI's interpretations include BBC, Newsweek, Die Weld, UPI, Thomas Friedman. Weekly Standard and many others.

Now MEMRI has interpreted something that OBL said in a way that you find detrimental to the candidate you want to be President and all you offer is your statement that some "author" believed Hamas was behind the OKC bombing. ** Exactly which MEMRI interpreter are you claiming believed HAMAS was behind the OKC bombing? **
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so what do you want to say?

God is great
Jesus is great
God bless USA
God bless Bush
God bless evanglists
God bless the selfrightous Christian fundamentalists
God is on US side, despite of their nuke atacks on Japanese cities, despite of Vietnam, despite of their backing for Isreal, despite of all the war crimes they have been doing, despite of their support for Saddam, supplying him nerve gas to use against Kurds and heavy ammunation against Iran, letting Isreal sell its weaponary to Iran to use against Iraq so they both keep fighting and be weakened to be easily conqured one day. Despite of all these evil deeds God is still on US side. Kool!

And ppl who resist to remove corrupt royal families from their oil-riched counties, those who want to live by their own, by the sharia, by their Islamic law, those who want oil money to use for the poor of those countries instead of 2% sheikhs that were imposed by Britishers while leaving and those who now being backed by US.....they all are *Islamic fundamentailists. * Very nice.

I don't find any difference btw OBL and Bush. They are just two sides of the same coin. Who knows they both are helping each other in their goals, intentionally or otherwise.

Tomorrow Amercia will vote for either Bush's agenda to drag country towards Christian conservative (exteremist rather) paranoid agenda or a little more moderate approach on co-existance of human race on the same planet.

Muslims of Amercia will vote for Kerry just to register their protest against the moronic president Bush and his policies. Not that Kerry is a good or better choice, but just that they dont' have any other choice and the fact that they and the rest of the world wants this war monger president to be kicked out from oval office, unfortunately Kerry is the only choice and he must win for this very reason. May world's leader be a person with some brain who can think and talk with other nations to find out a solution before eradicating (read:carpet bombing) the problem from scratch.

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^ So whose side is God on since you think the US is so evil?

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Is that the best you could come up with in my response. tsk tsk....

God is always with the innocent ppl, regardless of nation or race. HE can't be with dictators, hypocrites and murderers. Be it Bush, Clinton, Saddam, Shah Fahad or OBL. Read Bible and/or Quran and you would know whose side he is.

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It was a good discussion dissecting OBL message on linguistics basis. When I read the translation transcript of OBL’s speech at BBC, I was also confused to read the word “states”., My immediate reaction was:

“ IS OBL that politically sophisticated, to address USA states particularly warning them not to vote for Bush”

And my answer was NO.

I think he meant to address different countries because later in his speech he also mentioned Sweden’s name as an example who has not been attacked by Al-Qaida because of its impartial foreign policy.

(Guys let’s get back to the topic. In last few posts we are sidetracked. Thanks).

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More FUD and spin from the right wing media here in the U.S. They will do anything to elect their new found prophet, Bush...

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Is that the best you could come up with in my response. tsk tsk....

God is always with the innocent ppl, regardless of nation or race. HE can't be with dictators, hypocrites and murderers. Be it Bush, Clinton, Saddam, Shah Fahad or OBL. Read Bible and/or Quran and you would know whose side he is.
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You forgot Musharraf in your list, but I agree otherwise.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *

Yeah, well Kerry believed he voted for the bill before he voted against it and he's still a viable candidate for President. So... what's your point?

Seriously, who believed that Hamas was behind the Oklahoma city bombing? The NY Post writer or someone at the Middle East Media Research Institute? I could care less what some idiot writer for the Post thinks just like I could care less what Dan Rather thinks.

The only thing that is of interest to me is the interpretation of the arabic language used by OBL that was done by the Middle East Media Research Institute. If you know of something that undermines the credibility of that organization or have come across evidence or charges that it is some neo-con think tank, that would be of interest to me.
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MyVoice...

You know Kerry voted against the 87 billion.

Kerry felt the bill was lackluster on funding.

Questions over funding the bill was big part of the reason for the nay vote from John Kerry.

I thought Republicans were known for fiscal responsibility? Haven't seen George exhibit any.