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you are right, they wont, and if few actually do it, it wont make a difference.
wht saddens me is that after this US new stunt, our so called leaders are still not reacting, i mean wht are they waiting for???
due to their stupid NRO, memogate and several other issues, the core issues of our country never come to priority ...
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Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan**
SECOND EDITORIAL: US resolution on Balochistan
Republican Representative Dana Rohrabacher, who first chaired a US Congressional hearing on Balochistan, has now introduced a resolution calling for self-determination for Balochistan. Pakistan has taken a strong exception to this resolution, with Prime Minister Gilani, the Foreign Office, Pakistan Embassy in the US and the Pakistani media all condemning it in unison. The US Embassy in Islamabad issued a statement saying that the US respected Pakistan’s sovereignty and Balochistan was an internal matter of the country. The Obama administration may have distanced itself from the resolution but there are three factors behind this development. One, the Republicans are surely annoyed with Pakistan and its double dealing in the war on terror. It began in General Musharraf’s time and the army has continued with his policies to date. Tabling a resolution on Balochistan’s freedom from Pakistan could also be a way for the Republicans to embarrass the Democrats and the Obama administration. Whatever their motives, there is a serious implication that a sympathetic ear is available in the US to the Baloch cause. Two, the US’s vested interest in the region. If Balochistan gets independence, the Baloch will be well inclined towards the US. Given Balochistan’s mineral wealth and geostrategic location, it will be advantageous to the Americans. Three, international lobbying by Baloch nationalists is finally wielding the desired results: the issue of grave human rights violations in Balochistan has now become an international issue due to their efforts.
The Pakistani state and media are angry at the latest developments. Why has there not been any anger against the ‘kill and dump’ policy that the army has been pursuing in Balochistan for almost a decade now? Somebody has finally taken notice of what the Pakistani military has done in Balochistan. Hiding under the umbrella of ‘sovereignty’ cannot hide the state’s own cruelty, which has led to this pass. The world is waking up to human rights violations, as this concept has permeated into the world’s consciousness in the 21st century. The sovereignty argument looks lame in the case of genocide and massacre, Rwanda and Bosnia are cases in point. If the Balochistan issue is taken up by the UN, which seems to be the next logical step, Pakistan would not be able to do much about it. Just like the OBL episode, the hullabaloo surrounding the US resolution on Balochistan is about sovereignty and not about the real issue. We must focus on why the Baloch are asking for their freedom and how the military establishment is responsible for it. We must revisit the slow genocide that is going on in Balochistan and a political solution must be sought immediately before it is too late.**
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lol so that lal topi wala was right 
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what did he say?
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Gillani should let us know about the definition of Pakistani sovereignty first:
US resolution an attack on Pakistan’s sovereignty: PM
Jamil Bugti on Pakistani sovereignty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zcvoxrO9ws ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zcvoxrO9ws&feature=player_embedded#!)Re: Bill on Balochistan lands in US congress
http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/18/stick-it-to-the-pakistanis.html
Interesting editorial.
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Okay that is just idiotic. Whoever wrote that has never taken a course in international law or international politics. I would love to see this international lobbying the commentator speaks off. Because there is none. They are too small and not very good. Hell at the Congressional hearing all the experts were non-pakistanis.
Secondly Rwanda had no intervention till after it ended and the Rwanadese government asked for support. In Bosnia genocide continued under the UN and NATO. And it was never a POC case. Never. The first POC case was Kosovo.
And there is no genocide. The ICC has very specific guidelines of what constitutes genocide. Anything short of that is not genocide and constitutes crimes against humanity.
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wow
***"Prior to accepting the request to serve as a witness, I was told this was a hearing about human rights violations and other issues needed to understand the various crises in Balochistan. But, based upon that brief phone conversation, I concluded that it wasn’t about human rights. Rather, it seemed that the people behind this hearing were pandering to diaspora politics just to tick off the Pakistanis at a time when the United States is trying to repair its tattered relationship with Pakistan.”
“If this Congressional subcommittee remotely intended to try to use the hearing to put pressure on Pakistan for its human rights record in Balochistan, they should not have included someone who calls for the halving of their country.”***
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This is not necessarily a bad thing, if for no other reason, it increases the pressure on the powers that be in Pakistan to resolve the issue in an genuine and sincere way.
The issue of disappearances and the impunity of the security forces will continue unless there are those keeping an eye on the situation regardless of their motives.
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i have no hopes from the current govt that they will resolve Balochistan issue, they are too busy with useless issues like memogate and swiss court.
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Okay that is just idiotic. Whoever wrote that has never taken a course in international law or international politics. I would love to see this international lobbying the commentator speaks off. Because there is none. They are too small and not very good. Hell at the Congressional hearing all the experts were non-pakistanis.
Secondly Rwanda had no intervention till after it ended and the Rwanadese government asked for support. In Bosnia genocide continued under the UN and NATO. And it was never a POC case. Never. The first POC case was Kosovo.
And there is no genocide. The ICC has very specific guidelines of what constitutes genocide. Anything short of that is not genocide and constitutes crimes against humanity.
Well, we shouldnt be that complacent as Balochistan is far too important for foreign powers. No one called NATO to intervene in Libya, Iraq and Kosovo. We need to put our house in order to ensure that no one gets the opportunity to interfere in Balochistan in the garb of genocide.
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Agreed Ali.
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Balochistan crisis: In passionate speech, Shahbaz urges soul-searching instead of condemning US bill****LAHORE: **In an impassioned speech on the Balochistan crisis, Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif has urged Pakistanis to do some soul-searching instead of passing resolutions in assemblies against the US congressional bill on Balochistan.
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“Since Pakistan’s inception, there have been various army assaults in Balochistan whether it was during General Ayub Khan’s regime or when [Pakistan Peoples Party founder and former prime minister] Bhutto was in power,” Shahbaz told the Punjab Assembly, where he appeared on Thursday, for the first time in eight months.
Blaming former president Pervez Musharraf, during whose tenure veteran Baloch leader Nawab Akbar Bugti was assassinated, Shahbaz said the incumbent government was no better and was busy issuing statements from the bunker of the Presidency.
Bugti, he said, was a patriotic leader and was ready to speak to Musharraf but was made to wait five hours at an airport in Balochistan and then disgracefully asked to depart.
The chief minister said that he had met senior Baloch leader Sardar Ataullah Mengal who said that the disgruntled Baloch had refused to comply with his directives and decided to fight Pakistani forces. Shahbaz quoted Mengal as saying that some people said that Balochistan wasn’t easy to separate like East Pakistan was but this is a misconception.
But as he outlined the gravity of the situation, Shahbaz also had a word of hope. “If Germany, which was razed to the ground, could be reunited then why can Pakistan not address the grievances of the Baloch,” he said, adding that Punjab had given an extra share of Rs11 billion to Balochistan in the seventh National Finance Commission award.
**Although he said that there was little that an all-parties conference could achieve on the issue, demanded Punjab Assembly Speaker Rana Muhammad Iqbal to constitute a committee of members from all parties to prepare a draft resolution condemning army excesses in Balochistan and expressing support and empathy for the Baloch.
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The speaker then formed a panel which will be led by Law Minister Rana Sanaullah Khan and comprises parliamentary leaders of all political parties.
Mohsin Leghari, of the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid, said that Baloch students should be admitted to academic institutions in Punjab so that they could live in an integrated environment and experience Punjabis’ sympathy for them.
He said that during British rule, they had had just one approach: respect the Baloch if you want to rule them. “Pakistani rulers have not respected the Baloch and have only increased development work in the province, which is not a cure.”
Shahbaz said that a large number of Baloch students were studying in Punjab, including in the provincial government’s Danish Schools scheme. “Baloch students who topped their classes have been sent on international trips as well,” he said. He also condemned what he called was a tragic sectarian incident in Kohistan, in which 16 Shias were executed.