Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

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Re: Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

@Soomro

How do you know? Do you come from a refugee camp yourself????

:-|

How do you know that you are as clever as you pretend to be? :-|

[deedawar]

Re: Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

@TheRealDeal

These people are not 'accepted'. they are illegals, and the govt does not have the capacity to kick them all out.

There are tons of Afghanis carrying Pakistani ID card and passports if you have any idea. They ARE accepted and run business in Pakistan we all know except YOU.

[Soomro]

Re: Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

The point of the matter is that these biharis didn't and aren't coming in Pakistan (karachi) anytime soon.
Illegals are another issue altogehter.

MQM usually supports this issue since they will get more cadres to terrorize the whole province of sindh.

[antiobl]

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@bao bihari

.... my family lost around 7/8 people during 1971 including my grandparents.uncles and my elder brother who was only ten months old. .......

Did you get out or you are still stranded?

@bao bihari

Do you have a clue what "albadr " was? .............

Albadr and Alshams were militias who may have gotten some arms either by looting, or through Pak army.

However their role in controling the revolt was useless due to poor training and lack of communication and control. In the end they were more of a nuicesne rather than a force of any value.

@bao bihari

......there are more afghans/bengalis in karachi or urban sindh why not biharis ?....

Still living with hatred against Bengalis?

[Soomro]

Re: Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

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Still living with hatred against Bengalis?
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What do you expect from a bihari?

[deedawar]

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@syedpk

...............Here we are contradicting ourselves why should they come to pakistan just because they speak Urdu Was urdu the common point of unity when at the time of partition it was the mother tongue of only 4 to5 % of the population.

In my first post I gave my personal opinion that is they should be brought back and the illegal bengalis and afghanis should return to their native countries.But majority of the pakistanis wont agree.

Thats what I said majority of those who oppose are hypocrites and have no principle or ethics.

I did not put emphasis on islamic ideology only, its the ideology of being Pakistani citizen.

We must acknowledge that people had troubles, we lost a piece of land and millions lives lost beacause of us (the west Pakistni and our corrupt and greedy attitude).

Its time to do the right thing for loyal people.

These people did not accept BD from very begining and its time we stop forcing them to be BD citizens and try to shrug off the responsibility from our shoulders.

Those who think they are Indians should be ashamed of making such remarks...these people migrated to 'Pakistan' and have been Pakistani based on their choice to be Pakistani.

Your comment about Urdu seems like you did not think before writing. Its not about Urdu or any language these people speak.

Is there ANY principle these people would follow other than greed and false financial security?

While we spend millions of millions on trying to get Kashmir and lose lives over decades, we cannot afford to have Pakistani come home?

What an irony!

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@Soomro

MQM usually supports this issue since they will get more cadres to terrorize the whole province of sindh.

MQM is also the party that sided with Sindhis, Pathans and Balochs on the Kala Bagh Dam.

Pakistanis can either let their fears (like yours) dictate country's future and direction or they can be optimists and repatriot those stranded Pakistanis and include them in the growing economy. There are far more illegal Afghans in Pakistan and they jobs they are hogging could be go to all Pakistanis.

Pakistan and Pakistanis need to bring back the respect and dignity the peoples deserve. Lets do the right thing and repatriot those stranded Pakistanis.

[Soomro]

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For what?

Except to get political gains the dam is still going to be made as per Musharraf.

Considering sindhis were the first one to support pakistan resolution unlike punjab ruled by unionist tiwanas, we certainly have always gotten a raw deal

Pakistan and Pakistanis need to bring back the respect and dignity the peoples deserve. Lets do the right thing and repatriot those stranded Pakistanis.

How will that happen?
It is easier said than done.

There are far more illegal Afghans in Pakistan and they jobs they are hogging could be go to all Pakistanis.

Who said i supported the illegal afghans etc.

I am with you: lets throw them all out!
Amen brother to that.

[syedpk]

Re: Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

Guys thats what I said before that the majority wont accept biharis.You can just see how the capitalist chaudhary anti saab and saeen wada soomro reacted on this issue.

Why should they be brought back when they will face this descrimination and hatred

Biharis hate bengalis and bengalis hate biharis but some people hate both of them.

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@Soomro

For what?

Except to get political gains the dam is still going to be made as per Musharraf.

Considering sindhis were the first one to support pakistan resolution unlike punjab ruled by unionist tiwanas, we certainly have always gotten a raw deal

Soomro miaN, I’ll concede this point to you. You are correct.

How will that happen?
It is easier said than done.

Pakistan have to make it happen. It’s time we became a nation of go-getters, don’t you think?

[Soomro]

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Even your own dehliwala musharraf doesn't care (he halted the repatriation program started by Nawaz in 1999) so GO FIGURE !

[syedpk]

Re: Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

why only muhajir and urdu speaking support their return.MQM is supporting for political gains obviously and why they didnot back out from the government after balochistan operation.Bhaion agencies ki favourite party hai MQM they always made the best use of them.

[syedpk]

Re: Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

Musharraf cant do anything without the backing of punjab and establishment.

[Soomro]

Re: Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

Hmm wasn't it nawaz a punjabi kashmiri who was bringing these biharis back?

Shouldn't the army be more proactive considering the biharis actually fought for the army cause in bangladesh?

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@Soomro

Even your own dehliwala musharraf doesn't care (he halted the repatriation program started by Nawaz in 1999) so GO FIGURE !

Nawaz did start the repatriation but it was halted due to strong opposition by Punjabis.

[syedpk]

Re: Biharis(Stranded Pakistanis)Protest again on 23rd March

Mian saab must be getting some political gain with their return.In his tenure there was an operation on muhajirs.

Army created MQM but also did military operation against them.they would not serve any purpose to army now

[antiobl]

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@LuxuryItem

Nawaz did start the repatriation but it was halted due to strong opposition by Punjabis.

Oh Baboo raam! Punjabis have no problem accomodating 300,000 members of any community let alone Biharis.

300,000 in a state of 80 million is just a drop in the bucket.

However Sindhis do feel strongly about importing Biharis. They got burned once and they don't want to get burned again even at the hands of a relatively small numbers of 300K.

[syedpk]

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Punjabis are not the only ethinicity who doesnot support their return.The majoity of pakistan dont want them to be repatriated.

Come on chaudhary antibol saab can you give me the figures of other ethnicities living in punjab especially the urdu speaking,sindhi and balochis(not the seraiki balochs of southern punjab) living in punjab.

Dont blame it on sindhis alone no one is willing to accept them.Only those parties support there repatriation who see any political advantage with their return

[Captain1]

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@syedpk

Punjabis are not the only ethinicity who doesnot support their return.The majoity of pakistan dont want them to be repatriated.

Come on chaudhary antibol saab can you give me the figures of other ethnicities living in punjab especially the urdu speaking,sindhi and balochis(not the seraiki balochs of southern punjab) living in punjab.

Dont blame it on sindhis alone no one is willing to accept them.Only those parties support there repatriation who see any political advantage with their return

So in essence, all "Pakistanis" except "Mohajirs" are against the repatriation, right?

[Captain1]

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@antiobl

Oh Baboo raam! Punjabis have no problem accomodating 300,000 members of any community let alone Biharis.

300,000 in a state of 80 million is just a drop in the bucket.

However Sindhis do feel strongly about importing Biharis. They got burned once and they don't want to get burned again even at the hands of a relatively small numbers of 300K.

You are wrong, both Punjabis and Sindhis have strongly opposed repatriation of those Biharis and settling them into Sindh or Punjab.