Bid'ah - Good & Bad (merged)

SubhanAllah....
Alaas...poor souls....sigh

May Allah guide you all and bestow the best of Imaan upon ye..Ameen


When this body is destined to face death, then let it die in the best way as a ~Martyr~ in the way of your Creator.

Subhanallah, Your signature has touched my heart.. at the same time it reminded me of the great Mujahideen, the real pious ones who served Islam by body and soul!.

Mujahideen of the likes of Salahud-deen al-Ayooby al-Ashaariy, who was known for his piety. And know that he was one of the people who celebrated the Birth or Prophet Muhammad along with the rest of the Muslim world...

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Originally posted by Ahmad G:
*Also: Ash-Shaykhan: Ar-Rafi^iy and Imam An-Nawawiy as well as Ibn Hajar Clarified that it is permissible to use the Duff Tamberine for Naat. And Ibn Hajar said: "using the tamberine, even if it had "Jalajil" for Both men and women it's permissible, even in the Masjid Mosque Unless it interefes with the praying persons"

  • Jalajil are pieces of metals that come around the side of the tamberince to give it an extra sound

Refence: In there articles and writings. Which book?. I will get the page number and book name if requested. On a condition, and that is to withdraw from the stoborness.
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Brother you may want to check your sources again, the only instrument that is permissible is the duff, only if it fulfills three conditions:

1) it should be a duff without rings(Jalajil).

2)It may only be used during eid and wedding celebrations.

3)It may only be used bt women.

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Originally posted by Ahmad G:
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Also, about wahabies, what I said is that what they say and do, is and indication to the hatred of Prophet Muhammad. The first wahabaie that we debated in this forum "the watcher" ended his conversation with us byu saying: "the grave of Prophet Muhammad must be leveled to the ground, it must be destroyed!" in agreement to Al-Albani the wahabie leader who said that in his called book "warning the Muslims from taking the graves as Mosques"?!.

Don't you think that people would start doing "sajdaa" towards Prophet PBUH's graves? would that be allowed?

** Also his words about Prophet Muhmmad by letter "Muhammad is a dead man" **

Are you saying that Prophet PBUH is alive? Can you invite him for a dinner? how can anyone lead a prayer in Mecca or Medina if Prophet PBUH is alive?

Also declaring Miladun-Nabiy as an a shirk! and others declared it as Dalal! and others as a Sin!.. Also declaring the one who makes salat and salam after athan, as a Mushrik!! because they forbid that!! .. Subhanallah, Allah did not endow on them the love of Prophet Muhammad.

Well, that is a matter of "reference", his/their reference is not same as others, but to beleive that when you call Prophet PBUH's name he comes walking towards you might be counted as "SHIRK".

Prophet Muhammad said: "From Najd Emerges Great Fitan and Zalazil, - Qarnush-Shaytan" and now we know why he said that.

Yes, and people quoted a hadith that Prophet PBUH felt a cool breeze from 'India', now can we say that this hadith applies for this time?

Allah Knows best.

No doubt about it

For those who need the ahadith with sanad, I will give it upon request.

We need to add Quran in our references

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May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right

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Originally posted by appkiamaanat:
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Brother you may want to check your sources again, the only instrument that is permissible is the duff, only if it fulfills three conditions:

1) it should be a duff without rings(Jalajil).

2)It may only be used during eid and wedding celebrations.

3)It may only be used bt women. **
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Where did you bring that from?!!

Imam Ibn Hajar has related that it is lawful to use the duff with tamberine, for a man and for a women. Whoever negates that let him bring his proof, otherwise refer to who is more knowledgable.

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La quwata illa billah:

Are you saying that Prophet PBUH is alive? Can you invite him for a dinner? how can anyone lead a prayer in Mecca or Medina if Prophet PBUH is alive?

  • Know that according to the many Islamic contexts and proves that Prophets are alive in their graves praying, after their death Allah brings back their soul to where ever they are buried, but they do not come out or eat or drink.. they pray.

  • And one of the proves to that the Prophet Muhammad is alive in his grave, what was mentioned by Prophet Muhammad sallallahu ^alyhi wassallam what means: “The Prophets are alive in their graves praying” Imam Al Bayhaqiyy said that this is a Sahih hadith in Juz’ “the life of the Prophets” and was it was reported by Al-Hafith ibn Hajar that this hadith is thabit in the book “Fath Al Bary” and this a second hadith related by Al Bayhaqiyy and Al Hakim that the Prophet said what means: “Allah forbade for earth to decay the bodies of the Prophets” and a lot of other Ahadiths that proves the truthfulness of what we say, and also the proof that dead Muslim will hear is clarified from the hadith which means: “No Muslim man whom walks by the grave of his brother Muslim and he knew him in this life and says salam to him, that man will recognize him and will reply back” Al Hafith Abdil-Haq Al Ishbily said that it was a sahih hadith as mentioned in “Al Ithaf” book for Al Zabidy.

  • Do you think you understand Qur'an more than the scholars?!! Such as Ibn Hajar whom interperted al-bukhary?!!

  • Defeding wahabies for declaring the Muslim who says: Ya Muhammad as kafir?!!

I have also seen from your first saying, that you are defending al-bani for saying that the Grave of Prophet Muhammad must be leveled!! Are you saying that too!!

You have also negated a hadith that is mentioned in al-Bukhary that is about Najd which indicates that great fitan and dangers occur from there,,, So, are you really following Ahlus-Sunnah's path?? or your own path which is the wahabie school of thought!!?..

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Originally posted by Ahmad G:
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- Know that according to the many Islamic contexts and proves that Prophets are alive in their graves praying, after their death Allah brings back their soul to where ever they are buried, but they do not come out or eat or drink.. they pray. *

Yes, they are alive in their graves, but does that mean that they can be called from any part of the world? When they are in their graves, can they attend any of the "Eid Maildaun Nabi" ????

....“No Muslim man whom walks by the grave of his brother Muslim and he knew him in this life and says salam to him, that man will recognize him and will reply back” Al Hafith Abdil-Haq Al Ishbily said that it was a sahih hadith as mentioned in “Al Ithaf” book for Al Zabidy.

All dead human being hear. After one of wars, Prophet PBUH addressed the dead kuffar asking if they saw what Allah SWT told them trhu Prophet PBUH then one of companions asked Prophet PBUH how the dead can hear, Prophet PBUH replied that dead ones hear much better than alive people

- Do you think you understand Qur'an more than the scholars?!! Such as Ibn Hajar whom interperted al-bukhary?!!

I don't wish to compete with anyone here, Allah SWT is the judge, He'll decide about anyone. If I am granted to enter Heaven, thats all I care about.

- Defeding wahabies for declaring the Muslim who says: Ya Muhammad as kafir?!!

You should get the clarified in your mind. Why do they call it "kufr" when you call "yaa Muhammad"..... its not because you are expressing love for Prophet PBUH... think!!!

I have also seen from your first saying, that you are defending al-bani for saying that the Grave of Prophet Muhammad must be leveled!! Are you saying that too!!

If people will make a mazaar out of Prophet PBUH's grave, its better that nobody knows where its exact location is... I'd support the idea that there should be no physical indication of Prophet PBUH's grave, no sign to show it.

You have also negated a hadith that is mentioned in al-Bukhary that is about Najd which indicates that great fitan and dangers occur from there,,, So, are you really following Ahlus-Sunnah's path?? or your own path which is the wahabie school of thought!!?..

Again, all ahadith do not apply all the time, only if you can learn it.
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May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right

another ridiculous story from those story books written in the 9th century

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Here’s the truth about the dead:

[an-Naml 27:80] Truly thou canst not cause the dead to listen, nor canst thou cause the deaf to hear the call, (especially) when they turn back in retreat.

[ar-Rum 30:52] So verily thou canst not make the dead to hear, nor canst thou make the deaf to hear the call, when they show their backs and turn away.

[al-Fatir 35:22] Nor are alike those that are living and those that are dead. God can make any that He wills to hear; but thou canst not make those to hear who are (buried) in graves.

[al-Fatir 35:23] Thou art no other than a warner.


This Space For Rent

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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
** ....Here's the truth about the dead:

[an-Naml 27:80] Truly thou canst not cause the dead to listen, nor canst thou cause the deaf to hear the call, (especially) when they turn back in retreat.

[ar-Rum 30:52] So verily thou canst not make the dead to hear, nor canst thou make the deaf to hear the call, when they show their backs and turn away.

[al-Fatir 35:22] Nor are alike those that are living and those that are dead. God can make any that He wills to hear; but thou canst not make those to hear who are (buried) in graves.

[al-Fatir 35:23] Thou art no other than a warner.

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That pretty much sums up someone's understanding.

These ayats mean that Prophet PBUH does not have control over anyone, he couldn't force an ignorant man/pagan to listen (and beleive) just like the dead ones. Those ignorant man/pagans behave like dead ones and pay no attention to what you say (even though they hear).


May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right

"I have also seen from your first saying, that you are defending al-bani for saying that the Grave of Prophet Muhammad must be leveled!! Are you saying that too!!

If people will make a mazaar out of Prophet PBUH's grave, its better that nobody knows where its exact location is... I'd support the idea that there should be no physical indication of Prophet PBUH's grave, no sign to show it."

YA LATEEF!!!!

MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU.

THIS PERSON IS SUGGESTING THE DESTRUCTION OF THE GRAVE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD!!

WHAT CAN ONE SAY BUT MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU O WAHABIES!.

**Ahmad, Please no name calling

Sentinel.**


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Originally posted by Ahmad G:
**THIS PERSON IS SUGGESTING THE DESTRUCTION OF THE GRAVE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD!!

WHAT CAN ONE SAY BUT MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU O WAHABIES!.
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I say same for you and everyone, may Allah GUIDE you (and us all).

There is a clear distinction between 'destroying a grave' and 'removing signs of a grave', do you understand them?


May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right

Most of the confusion which they adduce to prohibit the tawassul and visiting the grave of the Messenger are matters which are irrelevant to the tawassul, like the marfu^ Hadith of Ibn ^Abbas and in it: If you ask, ask Allah and if you ask for help, ask Allah for help. The answer is: This Hadith does not contain: Do not ask other than Allah or Do not ask other than Allah for help. The Prophet meant: Allah is more worthy to be asked and His help is more worthy to be sought. How do these people fabricate upon the Messenger of Allah and Ibn ^Abbas to prove their claim of accusing of kufr the one who performs the tawassul and asks help from the Messenger? This Hadith is like the saying of the Messenger of Allah in the Hadith related by Ibn Hibban: Do not accompany except a believer and let no one except a pious eat your food. Does this Hadith contain that accompanying the non-Muslim is prohibited? Would one understand from it that feeding the non-pious is prohibited? In His Book (al-Qur'an), Allah permitted the Muslims to feed their kafir (non-Muslim) prisoner and praised it in al-'Insan, 8: They feed the food out of their love for Allah to the needy who cannot earn, orphan, and the (non-Muslim) prisoner .

Among their suspicious actions is their adducing the Hadith of ^Umar that he asked Allah for rain by al-^Abbas. They claimed that ^Umar performed the tawassul by al-^Abbas, because the Messenger had died. The answer is: Did ^Umar or al-^Abbas tell you that this tawassul was because the Messenger had died? No! Neither ^Umar nor al-^Abbas said that or indicated it. It is only out of your fabrications upon them to support your desire to accuse of kufr the one who performs the tawassul by the Prophet.

As one of their suspicious things, they may mention a Hadith, which is agreed that it is da^if: Abu Bakr said (what means): Let us perform istighathah by (ask for the help of) the Messenger of Allah against this hypocrite. The Messenger of Allah said what means: I am not someone by whom help is asked. Allah is the only One Who is asked for help. The answer to this suspicious matter is: Firstly, this Hadith has Ibn Lahay^ah among its relators, who is da^if. Secondly, this Hadith is contradictory to the Hadith that al-Bukhariyy akhraj in his Sahih from the marfu^ Hadith of ^Abdullah Ibn ^Umar, and in it the sun approaches the heads of the people on the Day of Judgement. While they are like that, they ask Adam for help. How do they cling to an unconfirmed Hadith when it is opposed by the sahih Hadith.

(I shall post a special thread for this topic)

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PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAID: "MY NATION DOES NOT UNANIMOUSLY GO ASTRAY"

AND THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS THAT VISIT THE GRAVE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND SEEK BARAKAH FROM HIM DID NOT GO ASTRAY!.

AND ALLAH KNOWS BEST.

Ahmad G,

May i ask, how is it possible for one to seek barakah from the Prophet salallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam's grave?

&peace


"No leaf falls except that He knows of it, and no rain drop forms except that He has willed it."

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Originally posted by Ahmad G:
PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAID: "MY NATION DOES NOT UNANIMOUSLY GO ASTRAY"

Kindly give references.

AND THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS THAT VISIT THE GRAVE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND SEEK BARAKAH FROM HIM DID NOT GO ASTRAY!.

and another set of "hundreds, thousands, millions" are against going to grave to "seek barakah".... now how'd you decide who is gone astray?

AND ALLAH KNOWS BEST.

No doubt, also Allah SWT has given us Quran to make our beleifs and lead a life HE wanted us to live.

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May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right

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Originally posted by Ahmad G:
PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAID: "MY NATION DOES NOT UNANIMOUSLY GO ASTRAY"
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Can you please give a reference to this from Saheeh Bukharo or Sahih Muslim.

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AND THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS THAT VISIT THE GRAVE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND SEEK BARAKAH FROM HIM DID NOT GO ASTRAY!.**
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Where do you get the figure from? What percentage of Muslims are you talking about? Surely, the Prophet did not say that he wanted us to do this. In fact the following hadeeth tells us the opposite:

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Narrated 'Aisha and 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas:
When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done.
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Rabbeshrah lee sadree; wa yassirlee amree; yafqahoo qaulee.

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Originally posted by Hasnain:
**Ahmad G,

May i ask, how is it possible for one to seek barakah from the Prophet salallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam's grave?

&peace


"No leaf falls except that He knows of it, and no rain drop forms except that He has willed it."**
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THIS SUBJECT WAS OPENED BEFORE. AND WE HAVE CLARIFIED FULLY ABOUT THIS SUBJECT AND WE HAVE REFUTED THOSE WHO OPPOSED THE UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT OF MUSLIMS.

Thus, I will direct To all of the brothers and sisters I would like to share this with you assuring the truth about Seeking barakah from the best of all Prophets, Saiyduna Muhammad sallallahu ^layhi wassallam.

Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds. May Allah raise the rank of our master Muhammad and his Al and Companions and protect his nation from that which he fears for it.

Tabarruk: Seeking Blessings (Barakah) from the Traces of the great Prophet is permissible in Islam, for he has taught us to do that.

To speak about issues like that one must be knowledgeable anout the religion and must support his arguments with Islamic references.

Allah, the Exalted, put a blessing in the self, doings, sayings, and traces of the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam. The Companions, may Allah raise their ranks, used to seek blessings from the traces of the Prophet during his lifetime and after his death. Following their example, Muslims of today continue to do the same. There are several proofs that make us know that seeking benefit from the traces of the Prophet (tabarruk) is permissible.

Narrations from al-Bukhariyy and Muslim confirm that during the last Pilgrimage performed by the Prophet (Hijjat-ul- Wada^), the Prophet distributed his shorn hair. The Prophet threw the pebbles at Jamrat-ul-^Aqabah,slaughtered a sheep and distributed its meat among the poor, then shaved his head. He shaved the right side of his head and gave his hair to Abu Talhah al-Ansariyy; then he shaved the left side of his head, gave the hair to Abu Talhah,and told him to distribute it among the people. Some received one hair, others two, and so on.

The Prophet personally handed some of his hair to people near him, including Umm Sulaym (one of the female Companions) and Abu Talhah,for them to distribute among the people. In this way, the hair of the Prophet was spread in the Muslim countries. The Prophet distributed his hair among the people in order for them to seek blessings (barakah) from it. Likewise, the Prophet distributed his nail clippings among the people, as stated by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad. These actions clearly indicate the permissibility of seeking benefit from the traces of the Prophet.

Subhanallah. I think that we should believe in the Prophet and what he does and to know that one must acquire this knowledge to know it!.

Also know that The Companions sought blessings from other traces of the Prophet as well. Imam Muslim related in his Sahih that Asma', the daughter of Abu Bakr, showed some people an article of clothing (jubbah) worn by the Prophet which had been at the house of her sister, ^A'ishah, the wife of the Prophet. When ^A'ishah died, Asma' got the jubbah. The Companions sought the blessings from this jubbah of the Prophet by using the water in which it had been soaked to treat the sick and cure his illness.

At-Tabaraniyy and Imam Ahmad narrated from the route of Ibn Hudhaym that he went with his grandfather, Hudhaym, to the Prophet. Hudhaym said to the Messenger of Allah: "I have sons and grandsons, some of whom are pubescent and others still children." Motioning to the young child next to him, he said: "This is the youngest." The Prophet brought this young child whose name was Handhalah next to him, wiped on his head, and told him, "Barakallahu fik," which means: 'May Allah bless you.' After that, people started to bring Handhalah a person with a swollen face or a sheep with a swollen udder. Handhalah would place his hand on that part of his head the Prophet wiped, then touch the swollen part and say "Bismillah," and the swelling would be cured.

Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated with a sahih chain as judged by IbnHajar al-^Asqalaniyy that it was the practice of the Companions in the masjid of the Prophet(Masjid an-Nabiyy) to place their hands on the knob of the hand rail (rummanah) of the platform (minbar) where the Prophet used to place his hand. There they would supplicate (make du^a)to Allah hoping Allah would answer their supplication because they were placing their hands where the Prophet placed his while making their supplication. This practice of the Companions clarifies two matters. The first is the permissibility of asking Allah for things by the Prophet (tawassul)after his death since by their act the Companions were truly making tawassul. Likewise it is permissible to ask Allah for things by other pious Muslims. The second is the permissibility of seeking blessings (barakah) from the traces of the Prophet.

The Tabi^in also used to seek blessings from the traces of the Prophet. Thabit al­Bunaniyy said he used to go to Anas Ibn Malik--an honorable Companion--kiss his hands, and say: "These are hands that touched the Prophet." He would kiss his eyes and say: "These are eyes that saw the Prophet."

Iman Ahmad, Al-Hakim, and others narrated about Marwan Ibn al­Hakam--an unjust ruler--that he once passed by the grave of the Prophet and saw a man with his cheek on the grave of the Prophet. Marwan Ibn al-Hakamasked: "Do you know what you are doing?" Nearing the grave, Marwan Ibn al-Hakam realized it was Abu Ayyub al-Ansariyy, one of the greatest companions of the Prophet.

(Abu Ayub was one of the greatest Companions of the Prophet. He never neglected performing jihad--even as an old man. He went with one of the Muslim armies at the time of Mu^awiyyah to liberate Constantinople. Despite his advanced age, he was patient on the hardship of the journey from Madinahto surround Constantinople--where he eventually died. Prior to his death, he asked the Muslims to advance as far as possible and bury him in that spot--which they did. The Muslim army that time was not successful in liberating Constantinople, and it remained in the hands of the kuffar who themselves tended the grave of Abu Ayyubbecause of the barakah they saw there! After several hundred years, Constantinople was liberated by Muhammad al-Fatih, the Ottoman. He wanted to know the location of the grave of Abu Ayyub which was no longer apparent since so many years had passed. Muhammad al Fatih asked one of the pious shaykhs in his army if he knew the location of Abu Ayyub's grave. He answered Muhammad al Fatih by recalling a light he had seen the previous evening coming from a specific location which went all the way up in the sky. The shaykh suggested digging there might present the grave. They dug in that location until they uncovered a plate with a writing indicating this was the grave of Abu Ayub. Muhammad al Fatih built a mosque (masjid) in that location that still exists until today in Istanbul, Turkey. There is a great feeling of barakah and tranquillity there).

Abu Ayyub al-Ansariyy replied, "Yes, I know what I am doing. I came here for the Messenger of Allah--not for the stone." By this he meant he was seeking the blessings from the presence of the Prophet, not for the stone covering his grave. Abu Ayyub al-Ansariyy continued his response with what he heard the Messenger of Allah say: "Do not cry over the Religion of Islam if the rulers are ruling correctly. Rather, cry over this Religion if the rulers are ruling incorrectly." By his response, Abu Ayyub was telling MarwanIbn al-Hakam: "You are not one of those rulers who are correctly ruling by the rules of Islam."

Considering the actions of Abu Ayyub,should one regard the statements of Ibn Taymiyah (Ibn Taymiyah is a man who lived during the 8th century Hijriyy. He claimed that Allah is a body and has limits, that Hellfire vanishes, and that the kind of the universe is not created by Allah, among other blasphemous claims.)who claims visiting the grave of the Prophet seeking the benefit is prohibited? Who is more knowledgeable--Ibn Taymiyah or Abu Ayyub? Abu Ayyub was a man better than a whole earth filled with people like Ibn Taymiyah. Ibn Taymiyah and his followers claim they follow the teachings of Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, yet Imam Ahmad,as well as other Imams, say the opposite of their claim.

Imam Ahmad was asked about touching and kissing the minbar of the Prophet for the blessing and about seeking the blessing by visiting the grave of the Prophet. He responded by saying: "This matter is not prohibited," as was narrated by ^Abdullah, the son of Imam Ahmad, in his book titled Al­^Ilal wa Ma^rifat ur-Rijal. Imam Ahmad also said it was a liked thing to make tawassul by the Prophet when there is drought. Furthermore, Imam Ahmad said that blessings would descend on those present in a session when the name of Safwan Ibn Sulaym (Safwan Ibn Sulaym was a pious man at the time of the salaf.) wasmentioned. How can Ibn Taymiyah and his followers claim to follow the school of Imam Ahmad?Imam Ahmad is in one valley and they are in another valley altogether.

Sufficient in proving the permissibility of seeking blessings by the traces of the Prophet is the narration of al-Bayhaqiyy in his book Dala'il an­Nubuwwah. He narrated, with a sahih (A Sahihhadith is one of the two types of hadith that can be relied upon in deducing judgments. The other type is the hasan hadith.) chain that Khalid Ibn al-Walid lost a headgear (qalansuwah) he wore during the Battle of al-Yarmuk. He asked the people to help him find it and they searched repeatedly until it was found. They saw it was a very old qalansuwah and thought it strange that Khalid Ibn al­Walid was so insistent on finding it. Khalid Ibn al­Walid told them: "The Prophet performed ^Umrah and then shaved his head. I rushed with the people to get some of his hair. I got some of the hair from the front part of his head which I put in this qalansuwah. Every time Iwent into battle with this qalanwuwah, Allah gave me victory."

Khalid Ibn Walid, was a great Companion who sought the blessings from the Prophet's hair--hoping by this Allah would give him victory in his battles. Hewas a great, brave hero, and he never lost a battle after that. Before the battle of Yarmuk, a Roman leader named Georgeah asked Khalid Ibn al-Walid: "Did Allah descend a sword from the heaven on your Prophet who gave it to you such that every time you fight, you win? Is that why they call you 'The Sword of Allah'?" At that, Khalid Ibn al-Walidinformed him about Islam. Georgeah asked: "What does one get when one embraces your Religion?" Khalid Ibn al­Walid told him: "He becomes one of us, and Allah forgives all his sins." Then Georgeah asked: "What does one do to embrace your Religion?" and Khalid Ibn al­Walid taught him the Testification of Faith (two shahadas.) Georgeah uttered the Testification of Faith, went and made ghusl, performed two rak^ah and then stood with the Muslim army. He fought in that battle until he died--and he died as a martyr.

The aforementioned stand as a few of many documented proofs showing that the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, taught there is a benefit in seeking blessings (barakah) from the traces of the Prophets and the righteously pious Muslims and in asking Allah for things by them. Also, it shows this is the methodology of the Companions, their followers, and those after them among the People of Knowledge, until our present times. Hence, those who claim what is opposite to that are definitely not on their path and are following other than their methodology.

So as there you see all of these beatiful prooves and eveidence about the great status of the Prophet and about the permissiblity of seeking barakah from him, how could a person such as wahabis say that Muhammad is dead, he's useless now!! And that has been said by one of their leaders and he went to destroyt he grave of the Prophet, then he got blinded from that! His name is bin baz a big wahaby leader. It's not about the names or sects, it's about how they pervert Islam!!

Brothers and sisters, I ask Allah humbly to guide us to the right path and to let us die as pious Muslims.
Allah knows best.

Here’s proves from the Scholars of the FOUR SCHOOLS which prove that Tawassul is permissible and the millions of Muslims that do it are not mushriks as some say. The proves are fully referenced with Name of scholar, book and page ! what more would anyone need.

The Hanafy Madhhab (School – set of laws):
In the book “Al-Fatawa al-Hindiyyah Volume 1/266, the book al-Manasik, Under the title: Conclusion of visiting the grave of the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, after he mentioned how the visit is, and manners of the visitor of the grave of the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, he mentioned the supplications that the visitor would say, and he said: “He (The visitor) stands close to the head of the prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam and he would say: “O Allah you said and your say is the truth (and he mentioned this ayah)
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And we came to you listening to your say obedient to your command, (((making tawassul (Mustashfi^een) by your Prophet))) to you” The End. This means we make tawassul by the Prophet to you O Allah.

The Maliky Madhhab:
Sheikh Ibn al-Hajj al-malikiyy whose known for his strength in the negation of the innovations, in his book al-Madkhal, 1/259-260 he said: “(((THE TAWASSUL by him Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam))) is the place where to take off the masses of bad deeds and the weighty loads of sins, because (((the Barakah of seeking tawassul by him Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam is great to Allah))) and no sin exeeds it, for, it is the greatest of all, so let the one who visits him and who doesn’t visit him know that, and let him seek Allah Ta^ala (((by the Shafa^ah of his Prophet))) may peace and blessings be upon him. O Allah (((grant us his Shafa^ah for his high rank))) to You, Ameen o lord of the worlds, and whomever believes in the opposite of this, he would be losing (the endownment of tawassul)”

The Shafi^iy Madhhab:
Imam An-Nawawiyy said in “al-Majmoo^” 8 / 274, the book “description of pilgrimage”, under the title (((“Visiting the grave of the Messenger Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam”))) he said: “Than he (the pilgrim) returns to his first position facing the face of the Prophet of Allah Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam (((and he makes tawassul by him))) (((by his virtue and he seeks shafa^ah by him))) (Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam) to his lord” The end of the saying of An-Nawawiyy. Please check these references on the mentioned book, volume and page number. Shafa^ah (intersession) linguistically means: Seeking help from others to others. There are the Shafi^iees also teaching us how to make tawassul as well.

The Hanbaly Madhhab (Whom as claimed by the ones who say tawassul is forbidden –wahabies-, claim that he is their imam:
Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal said tawassul is lawful as Imam al-Mardawy reported from him in “al-Insaf” 2/456 Book “Salat al-Istisqa’” he said: “and from it (meaning from the benefits) it’s (((perimissible to make tawassul by the pious man))) who’s righteous on the madhhab, and it has been said: it’s (((recommended))), Imam Ahmad said to al-marwathy: “(((He makes tawassul by the Prophet))) Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam in his supplication, and he affirmed it in al-Mustaw^ib and others”. Imam Ahmad Bin Hanbal is one of our great four schools that affirmed that it is permissible to make tawassul by the Prophet and by the pious man to Allah, if those four Madhhahib said in the permissibility of tawassul, what kind of sense would it be to leave these four schools and follow only the wahaby madhhab?!! they are the ONLY sect that makes it impermissible.

These are the four schools whom clarified the issue of tawassul all as one say, they all agreed on this Islamic issue, so Muslim brother follow these great scholars, those who chose to follow the route of the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, and do not lose the reward and value of making tawassul by the beloved Al-Mustafa Sallallahu ^alayhi wa ^ala Alihy wa Sahbihy wa sallam and on those who follow them.

And to add more to your certainty and as a benefit to you and to increase the clarifications of the permissibility of tawassul by the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam and that it’s done by many of the scholars of Islam, I will mention some of the famous scholars that made tawassul by the Prophet Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam in their books along with the references in brief (Please if not sure, check references):

1- The seal of the linguistics al-Hafith Murtada az-Zabidy al-Hanafy he said in conclusion of “Taj Al^aroos” as he made supplication: “…We ask (((By Muhammad and his kind and pure Al)))”

2- Sheikh Ibn Hajar al-Haythamiyy as-Shafi^iyy said in the conclusion of his book “Tuhfat Az-Zuwwar Ila Qabr al-Mukhtar” (his book: The preciousness for the visitors of the grave of the great Prophet) as he was making supplication: “May Allah let us and those who read this book die with happiness and goodness and may He grant us Paradise in a great place (((by the virtue of the master of Prophets))) (Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam)”.

3- The great scholar al-Fayoumiyy said in the conclusion of his book: “al-Misbah al-Munir” as was making supplication: “and we ask Allah to grant us a good end in our life and the hereafter and to benefit by it and its seeker and the one who looks into it and to treat us fairly (About the book) (((by Muhammad and his Al al-at-har and his Companions al-abrar)))”

4- The great scholar and faqih ^Abdul-Ghaniyy al-Hanafiy the author of “al-Lubab fi sharh al-Kitab”, he said in the conclusion of his book “Sharh Al^aqidah At-Tahawiyyah” as he was making du^a’: “and I ask you (o Allah) to raise the rank of our master Muhammad, for, he is the closest of whom (((tawassul is done by him))) to you”.

5- Shams ad-Deen ar-Ramliyy known as the small Shafi^uiyy he said in the introduction of his book “Ghayat al-Bayan fi sharh Zubad ibn Rislan” as he was making supplication: “and I ask Allah and (((by his Prophet I make tawassul)), to make it (his deed in his book) sincere for your sake”.

6- The ultimate of the Muhaqiqeen Sheikh Ibn ^Abideen al-Hanafiyy, he said in the introduction of his explanation for “ad-Durr al-Mukhtar” as he was making supplication: “and I ask Him Ta^ala (((making tawassul to his Prophet))) whom is Mukarram, Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam”.

7- Sheikh Muhammad ^Ala’ud-Deen ibn as-Sheikh ibn ^abideen, he said in the conclusion of the continuation of the explanation of his father as he was making supplication: “May Allah (protect) him, and may Allah forgive him and his children and his sheikhs and to whom else he has right upon, (((by the virtue of the master of the Prophets and Messengers)))”.

8- Imam Muhammad Az-Zarqaniyy Al Malikiyy said in the conclusion of explanation to “al-muwatta’” as he was making supplication: “and I ask you from your generosity (O Allah) (((making tawassul to you by the most high in rank of your messengers))) (Ashraf al-Mursaleen) and to make it (His explanation to al-Muwatta’) sincere for your sake”.

9- Muhadith Isma^il bin Muhammad al-^Ajluniyy al-jrahiyy, as-Shafi^iyy he said in his book “Kashf al-Khafa’ and Muzeel al-ilbas” 2/419 making supplication: “and o Allah waive away our sins by your generosity and end it by the best of deeds by the virtue of the Muhammad Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam the master of the masters”.

10- al-hafith as-Sakhawiyy said in the conculusion of his “Explanation of ‘Ulfyat al-^Iraqiy in al-hadtih”: “our master Muhammad the master of humanity and (((our ‘Wassilah’))) (Path to Allah) and our Sanad and support during the hardships Sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam”.

These are very few of scholars who made tabarruk and tawassul by the Prophet and they have declared it as permissible. After all of these proves that some might have been ignorant of, why would it be acceptable to neglect them all four schools and follow one innovated school!? Aren’t we told to follow the Sahabah and the ones after them? Aren’t we told to stick to Al Qur’an and Sunnah.


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We, Ahlus-Sunnah wal Jama^ah, don't worship graves!! nor do we think that the Prophet, or a scholar will generate good for you.. We just believe in them as holy people that are wassillah to Allah. Allah ta^ala said:
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and the Prophet is a wassilah.
Prophet Mussa had benefited us after his death. Didn't he tell Muhammad to ask Allah to reduce the number of prayers untill it became 5 prayers?.. Yes he did. So if benefits us after his death, than the best of the creations does as well.

May Allah guide us all.