What is Bhili and Gondi?
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i think these are languages spoken in India in and around Gujrat and Madhya Pradesh. not in UP though.
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It look languages.
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i think these are languages spoken in India in and around Gujrat and Madhya Pradesh. not in UP though.
Are these getting extinct?
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Bhili and Gondi are languages spoken by Bhil and Gond tribes respesctively. They have sizable number of speakers but unfortunately these languages are not included in 8th schedule
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Bhili and Gondi are languages spoken by Bhil and Gond tribes respesctively. They have sizable number of speakers but unfortunately these languages are not included in 8th schedule
Do you know these languages? There might be such more languages (with sizable population) not included in scheduled languages. No?
What benefit does a language get when it is included in eight schedule? Urdu is a scheduled language in India with sizable population, but it is losing its script rapidly.
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@muqawwee123 not getting extict. Because of lacs of speakers but because of migration of trible people in search of job, urbanization, not having market value, not getting State's efforts in promotion languages get extinct. I worry about future of these native languages.
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BTW who are Bhils. Is it same like Bhel as Monish Bhel (Nutun’s son. Kajol’s cousin).
There are Bhel’s in Sindh (who are mostly lower caste nomads). Any link? ![]()
Gujrat and Sindh shares boundaries. Might be some migration and there might be common vocabulary between Bhili and Sindhi like between Kachhi and Sindhi.
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Do you know these languages? There might be such more languages. No?
What benefit does a language get when it is included in eight schedule? Urdu is a scheduled language in India with sizable population, but it is losing its script rapidly.
Benefits: Sahitya Academy like govt intitutions collect literature, make dictionary, publish and books, organize fests etc. Official language commission which deals with language issues contains representstives of these languages so they have a say in affairs. I have to study more about it. There are handsome number of Urdu script newspapers. I saw some Urdu news channels as well. Large number of Madrassas teaching Urdu script. I think Urdu is not loosing it's script.
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Lets hear that from @KKF.
@the_kaur is of teh view that even in Muslims areas advertisement for urs, etc are written in devnagri
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If she is saying Muslim areas, then in South India, I doubt she find these advertisements in devnagari, there might be in regional languages like Tamil, Malyalam etc in Muslim areas. In west Bengal I think we would find in Bangla. Advertisements are supposed to be seen by wider audience. Hindus also greet Muslims and some visit with family their homes on Eid.
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Bhils are tribles, there could be a link between them. Let’s see if there is good literature available on net. I will ask my Bhil friends.
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As compared to Hindi, speakers of these two languages are still too less but sizable as compared to the languages that are recently added to the 8th schedule otherwise their proportion is negligible. There are not many languages like these two whose number of speakers are more than 1 million.
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What is Bhili and Gondi?
Bhil and Gondli are languages without script
Do you know these languages? There might be such more languages (with sizable population) not included in scheduled languages. No?
What benefit does a language get when it is included in eight schedule? Urdu is a scheduled language in India with sizable population, but it is losing its script rapidly.
There are many such languages with script which are not in eight schedule like Tulu and Kodava.
Not only urdu is scheduled language but even Arabic and Persian are. One can take Civil services exam in these language.
There are two things one is sizable votebank and second is political will of people.
If she is saying Muslim areas, then in South India, I doubt she find these advertisements in devnagari, there might be in regional languages like Tamil, Malyalam etc in Muslim areas. In west Bengal I think we would find in Bangla. Advertisements are supposed to be seen by wider audience. Hindus also greet Muslims and some visit with family their homes on Eid.
No. With this I mean, in Deccan, I have seen advertisements written in Urdu while in UP I have seen only in devnagri.
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@the_kaur the question arises why Gondi & Bhili having sizable number of speakers not included in 8th schedule. There was a post on fb shared by Muqawwee where I learned Sindhi speakers collected literature, cited their contribution in freedom struggle to get Sindhi scheduled. Bhils also contributed in freedom struggle. They revolted in 1817-19, 1825, 1836 and 1846. They have leaders like Sewaram and Tantya Bhil to cite. There was no genuine political will at the time of Sindhi inclusion, it was struggle of it’s speakers. Why Bhils & Gonds lagged behind? Is it because they are tribal people, not wealthy like Sindhis or don’t have political influence? It is strange that you saw advertisements in Urdu in South India (yet think it is declining) and didn’t in northern India, where most of the Urdu newspapers are being published, and Govts (like in Southern India) use Urdu as official language in Urdu speaking areas. I guess number of Urdu newspapers are not less (if not more) than Punjabi, Gujrati, Malyalam or any such language. @muqawwee123 how do we know that a script is in danger. Is it because it’s literature work is translated to the prevailent script which is read by large number of people? Certainly Urdu script has less market value than Devnagri script because Devnagri is the script of the official language of Union but it doesn’t mean that Urdu script is in danger at the time when lots of newspapers are being published, govt using it for official purposes, news channels are there. We can say languages like tulu are in danger. Urdu Newspapers
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@the_kaur Also number of speakers of Bhili & Gondi are more than recently included languages so their vote bank should be significant if we compare them with recently included ones.
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Chance discovery of Gondi script opens new vistas of tribal culture : The Hindu - Mobile edition
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Please go through this video. Gulzar saheb is saying that Urdu is in danger due to fact Indian new generation does not know its script.
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He nowhere said that Urdu script is in danger. He is making a general statement that languages have to be enriched or changed with time which aplies to all languages. Anchor lady said youngsters are taking interest and some in interview conformed this. In 2014 Uttar Pradesh govt declared Urdu it’s second official language. Also we should not go by personal observation of individuals rather we should apply logic and see facts.