Beware of the Muslim women boxers ?

Well… interesting phenomenon. i am not certain how far this would go, practically speaking… but then, who knows. If it’s something they have a passion for, they are not infringing on anyone else’s rights, and IF it does not defy any religious principles [cultural ones are another discussion entirely] then who among us mortals has the right to pass judgements on it.

Having said that, i can see that some individuals would have a problem with certain aspects to it, whether it’s cultural or religious.

Boxing future for Muslim women, Soutik Biswas, BBC, 22 January 2004

At the crack of dawn every day, a wiry girl leaves her cramped home in Calcutta’s squalid Kidderpore area and jogs to the lush gardens of the city’s stately Imperial Library. For the next hour, Razia Shabnam goes through her paces, as early morning walkers gape at her.

“She’s the woman boxer. Be careful of her!” quips one passer-by.

Razia Shabnam, 23, is more than a female pugilist. Braving stiff resistance from relatives and neighbours in the desperately poor Muslim ghettos of Calcutta where women have traditionally lived a cloistered life, Shabnam made it to the big ring.

Now she is India’s first Muslim woman boxer-turned-coach and international referee.

More importantly, she is like the Pied Piper to poor Muslim girls who are making their journey to the boxing ring and making a statement. There are over 150 women boxers in India today, but the majority of those hailing from Calcutta are Muslim girls who have come out of the shadows. Inspiring them to take up what, for Calcutta, is a rather unusual sport, is Laila Ali, the boxer-daughter of boxing legend Muhammad Ali.

They also revere Mohammed Ali Qamar, a local ghetto boy who clinched a gold medal in the light flyweight boxing at the Commonwealth Games in Manchester last year. “Women taking up boxing here is like a jihad [struggle] against established community conventions,” says Rahat Hussain, Razia’s social worker father.

Mr Hussain, who used to be a wrestler, is not far off the mark. Over half of Muslim women in urban India are illiterate and less than 1% of them are graduates. Even government reports concede that Muslim women are among the “poorest, educationally disenfranchised, economically vulnerable, politically marginalised group” in India.

Not surprisingly, it wasn’t easy to get Muslim girls to take up boxing. Shabnam and three other women were the first to come out of their homes and make the difficult trip to the coaching ring five years ago.

Ashhit Banerjee, a boxing enthusiast who runs a club in the city and brings out the only boxing magazine in India, remembers that in the early days the girls would leave home in burqas and slip into shorts and boxing gear once they had reached the ring. He says he has been accused of misguiding the girls.

“Parents were aghast. Relatives chided the girls. Some Urdu papers even called me an infidel.”

“Today things have changed and the girls are coming in droves.”

But it is still not easy going - Shabnam, who was the first girl in her neighbourhood to go to college and become a graduate - still has no steady job. She makes do with a paltry 600 rupees ($13) a month, which she earns teaching poor students.

The other girls box on, hoping one day they will shine enough to win medals and get a job. There is little money in boxing in India, and there still are no places for women boxers in government offices, which hire sportspeople. “Still they come to the ring, because boxing gives them a strong sense of identity. They are no longer faceless girls spending all their lives at home,” says A**** Banerjee.

Their struggle is far removed from the world of their icon Laila Ali, who endorses cars and hair products, turns up on television shows and is a pin-up model of sorts.

Calcutta’s girl-boxers train in a wood-based ring in an unkempt, mosquito-infested park where the homeless sleep rough, and young men shoot heroin. The girls live in cramped, single-room, homes with common toilets in large families - and need to find a neighbour’s empty room in which to change. Their diets are embarrassingly frugal: some baked bread, lentil soup and occasionally chicken leftovers from the nearby market. Still, they are very fired up and box three hours a day, six days a week. Eighteen-year-old Alam Ara is one girl who was inspired by Shabnam’s example.

Her father hawks homemade food on a grimy Kidderpore pavement and keeps aside a part of his paltry earnings to buy his daughter her cheap gear.

Ara went to school, learnt computers and then took up boxing.

“I don’t believe girls should stay at home and cook. I want to be like Laila Ali,” says Ara, who has a picture of her heroine tucked under her pillow.

Twin sisters Shanoo and Shakila Baby, 15, are also seeking a career in the ring. Their policeman father died a few years ago. Encouraged by their mother who says she used to slip out of home when she was young to play football with the boys, the twins took up boxing. “The boys are scared of us. If somebody messes around with us, we give it back to them,” says Shakila, who thrashed a man who tried to snatch her handbag at a fair two years ago. :smiley: :k: ]

Bright-eyed Sazda Parveen, 17, the daughter of a carpet factory worker, has already sparred in seven tournaments and is noted for the speed of her punches. “My relatives said I would be disfigured if I boxed, I would no longer be a girl. Now it’s the only thing I love,” says Parveen.

It is difficult to say how long these girls will continue to flock to the ring in the absence of any incentive. Their only perks are the tournaments when they travel out of the city and are paid a small daily allowance and given modest lodging.

But Shabnam says she and the girls won’t give up hope so easily.

"I do get frustrated. After all this I don’t have a regular source of income. People ask me: Why are you doing this? For what?

“I tell them boxing has given me some recognition. I am happy for that.”

Of all the things they can do... boxing?!?

Then again, I guess they'll say ... "why not?"

Well, whatever floats their boat.

Cool! :)

does she fight like a butterfly and sting like a bee

cheers for razia , i wonder y not more of muslim women or men for that matter get a hold of them selves !

whoa hoa :eek:

interESSting!!!

Wouldn’t it be great if the husband and wife both were boxers…They could use the kids as punching bags…:dhishumba::smiley:

But if the wife was a boxer and the husband wasn’t… whenever there was a marital disagreement she could use him as a punching bag. In fact, she could make him into her b… :bummer:

MS, I see an underlying tone of affection from your remarks for these boxer broads…Now don’t you go and start courting one of them, hear? :nono1:

I worry for you, I really worry for you MS…

I think I’d get two black eyes and a broken nose if I tried :bummer:

and I thought the whole process of marriage turned them into professional boxers ..and besides isn’t marriage considered to be a buy- one- hubby -and- get -a -punching -bag- free deal ?..or was it the other way round ? :stuck_out_tongue:

MS, judging from what I've read so far, you'd be lucky to come out with just that...Nothing soothes a bruised ego...These femmes sound lethal...

cool.. :k:

theres nothing wrong with learning it for self-defence

but really theres a limit, those women dont even look like women any longer

:hehe: at some comments

I agree with Xara :slight_smile:

have you heard of the boxer Laila Ali, daughter of Muhammad Ali ?

:rotfl:

i just saw the pics omg

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and I thought the whole process of marriage turned them into professional boxers ..and besides isn't marriage considered to be a buy- one- hubby -and- get -a -punching -bag- free deal ?..or was it the other way round ? :p
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It was more like, get a wife and family pet, two-in-one, plenty more when these came from kinda deal.

And Maddy and Lajjo, I'm trusting in their better judgement as womenfolk not to marry either of you. In fact, the day either of you get a self sufficient, independent able-to-defend herself kinda gal, let me know, I'll pray for her better judgement.

I wish one of those women could hear this comment of yours.Im sure you would end up being the punching bag.

hmmm.

i think Lajawab and MS should find women boxers for their future wives.

It can be all about self-empowerment and self-defence. Waisay, interestingly, a couple days ago on tv they ran a small news item about Canadian female boxers. This isn't exclusively a desi issue, that reminded me. Women boxers in general - regardless of their background - are pretty rare and societally, it's kindof frowned upon or at the least, something that raises an eyebrow here and there. Anyways... why not boxing ? Keeps you fit athletically, you have the peace of mind that you can defend yourself if you get into any tricky circumstances, etc.