Betting in Cricket

The following statement is by no means a prejiduiced statements towards the great nation of India or the great people of India, just a little observation in my point of view. If you don’t like it, too bad for you! :nahnah:

As we all know for the past couple years we have seen so many great bowlers being given suspective arm action and those issues have been labeled as 'Cancer of Cricket"

In my view the real cancer of cricket is the Indians who have done so much damaged to the international cricket in the past 3 or 4 years so.
It all really started with India vs SA series where bookmakers involved a great player like Hansie Cronje (God bless him) and that started the matchfixing fiasco and resutled in ban of other crickeitng greats.

Why are only Indian bookmakers are involved in such things.
Why not Pakistani, Bangali or English etc.

And then cricket faired its even biggest disaster when the Indians went against the rules of ICC in their tour of SA in 2001.
Almost leading the cricket world into a depression with the Indians abiding by the rules of ICC.
With players like Sehwag and others were banned for excessive appealing which the Indians are truly known for.
And a great cricketing icon like Sachin Tendulkur accused of ball tempering almost splitting the whole cricket world in half.

And now cricket is also facing another fiasco started by the Indians not signing the contracts which is resulting into another big arguement.

Why can’t Indians just learn that they are not the governing rule of cricket but ICC is.

When they are going to realize that they have ended the careers of such cricketing greats like Malik, Jadeja, Azharuddin, Rahman, and Cronje.
God knows if it wasn’t for the Indians the guy still have been alive and captaining the current South African team.

Why can’t you people just leave us and cricket alone.
It has already suffered enough due to terrorism and nwo doing this would completely destroy the cricket world.

Who is stopping you - Why not expel Indians from ICC. We have already left you. fir kyon cheekhte rehte ho ki India is not playing cricket with you :D

Two thumbs up!!!

You R the Man!!

You are forgetting my friend - This whole Match fixing thing was started by RASHID LATIF Long before we did . BTW - Hansie was a great player - But why did South Africans ban him :slight_smile: If he was ‘Ohh so Innocent’.

Dont know about Bengalis or English - But there are Paki Bookmakers. In previous testimony before the Pakistani judicial commission, a Pakistani bookmaker, Salim Pervez, claimed he gave money to Salim Malik and Mushtaq Mohammed, the Pakistan leg spinner, to fix this match.

As usual, Ignorant statement by the author. He should be aware that Australians were the first one to reject the ICC terms. :slight_smile: Well I am not surprised at the gentleman’s ignorance - After all it is the same person who says Afridi is next Richards.

Well, since when Rehman became a great player ? :smiley: We didn’t end the careers of any of these cricketers - their boards did.

Bottom line is if a bookie approaches cricketter and crickketr succumb to offer its bookie who should only be blamed.Players are innocent.

Thank you Ehsan bhai.
I'm starting to like you. :)

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Thank you Ehsan bhai.
I'm starting to like you. :)
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I must be losing my touch :)

The last person any one could label as racist or whatever, but when it comes to Cricket India do suck and there dismissal would not harm the standard of games played. Only Sachin would be missed, and I'm sure the ICC would find a way to keep him -perhaps by making him a Lankan.

Betting is a trans-national all engulfing terror in Cricket.

Please do tell us the rules - Which Indians went against ??

Just now you said - We went against the rules , now you are saying we were abiding by the rules. Please do tell us how did Cricket went to depression by abiding some ICC rules ? :smiley: Or according to you We are not supposed to abide by rules - to avoide any future depressions ??

Arshad khan fined for excessive appealing
Lanka players fined for excessive appealing
I can bring you many more examples and that will prove that Indians are not the only ones to do that. (Not to mention the filthy words coming out of Akhtar/Mcgrath/Akram/Donald’s mouth every time they are hit for runs)

Long before him there was another person names as ‘Burewala Express’ became the first person to be suspended for ball tempering.

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Long before him there was another person names as 'Burewala Express' became the first person to be suspended for ball tempering.
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Old Indian's habbit of make one right of two wrongs. Cant even come up with something +ive in defence.

How ignorant. Its like police catches a robber red handed and he comes up with an excuse "i was doing this because my neighbor do this too"

or may be like a child when caught eating sweets comes with excuse
"i was eating sweet because my brother did that too"

chaloo atleast your statement proves that Sachin did ball tempering :)

Excessive appealing more than any other cricketers.
Not banning Virender Sehwag and 6 other players.
Not furthering the investigation of tendulkur ball tempering when told by ICC on numerous occasions and avoided those requests to Mr. Dalmiya.
Not allowing Mike Dennesse as the match referee even though only ICC has the right to appoint a match official, not the Indian cricket board.

I would like to know how often that happens by a non Indian.
Sure every player uses profanity under frustration.
But be honest with me and tell me Indians for the past 2 decades have been appealing extremely even during the current English series.

Yes he was rightly punished and PCB investigated that matter throughly.
Remember BCCI even refused to even accept that Tendulkur was tempering.
I’m not saying he did or did not but I’m blaming the BCCI for not doing of what asked and not blaming their best player if he did any wrong doing.

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Old Indian's habbit of make one right of two wrongs.
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Chalo, at least you also agree that what Waqar did was wrong - Otherwise PCB reacteed same way India did.

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Cant even come up with something +ive in defence.
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Look who is talking about +ve things. The whole thread starts on a -ve note and you are preaching +veness. You want positive ?? Can you handle it ? +ve is that Tendulkar is a Batsman and not a bowler - What would he get out of Ball tempering ? Dennese the Menace changed his statement later on that Sachin was suspended ban for not consulting the umpire.

ICC official web site is suggesting other wise…

Player :
Sachin Tendulkar

Series & Match :
South Africa v India, 2nd Test
16 - 20 November 2001 at Port Elizabeth

Details of Incident & Action :
Breach of Code 2, alleged interference with the match ball, thereby changing its condition. Found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute. Fined 75% of match fee and suspended suspension of one Test match., effective from 20th November to 31st December 2001. Any further breach of the Code in this period will incur the one Test match ban.

Source : ICC Official Web Site

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Excessive appealing more than any other cricketers.
Not banning Virender Sehwag and 6 other players.
Not furthering the investigation of tendulkur ball tempering when told by ICC on numerous occasions and avoided those requests to Mr. Dalmiya.
Not allowing Mike Dennesse as the match referee even though only ICC has the right to appoint a match official, not the Indian cricket board.

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and these are ICC RULES ??? do you want me to produce the Rule book to you ?

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I would like to know how often that happens by a non Indian.
Sure every player uses profanity under frustration.
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why dont you find out - How many times Indian players
1. have been accused of using profanity
2. have been Fined for showing dissent
3. banned for ball tempering(Sachin was not banned - It was suspended ban)
4. accused of excessive appealing

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But be honest with me and tell me Indians for the past 2 decades have been appealing extremely even during the current English series..
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If you were watching the Indian 2nd Innings batting in 2nd test - it was the English team which was appealing at everything. Better check your facts.

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Yes he was rightly punished and PCB investigated that matter throughly.
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??? when can you post some details please.

Thanks Baywaqoof.
I was looking for the exact same thing.

There you go brother:slight_smile:

You said PCB investigated the charge, Where does that link Say that PCB investigated it ??

He was punished due to the investigation by PCB, he just can't get punished without any consideration from the home board.

India just refused to even consider investigating Tendulkur's ball tempering.

They think he is a saint.