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I dont want to bring in Bangladesh here.. and i am not an expert either of all this past nonsence. But tell me since i dont know.. how many percentage of pakistan military serving in East Pakistan were bangladeshis. If it was not a large no. and if there was discrimination, ofcourse they lost the game the first day it all started.
I dont have any sikh site. but it does not mean that there doesnt exist. Because i never have time to search for it for scoring points.:). But u are not explaining to me why all these seperatist movement are dormant now.
Superior military.. I just said it because u were implying that indians were able to get the unification going with the threat of military power. I dont want to compare military powers now.

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hindus are treacherous as individuals and as a society. in 1947, sikhs were in bed with hindus and were incited by hindus to kill half a million muslims in punjab. But look at the way hindus have treated them since 1947

But Operation bluestar and the anti-sikh pogrom of Nov 84 even made the Jalianwala bagh massacre look like a minor riot.

i would argue that for the sikh and indian muslim minority, the British Raj was far more just and better than the hindu-dominated india. if i was an indian muslim or sikh, i would prefer to live in a white man's british raj instead of a hindu-dominated india.

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Vineshvk,

There is no scoring points competition here,..except,…facts speak for itself,…:slight_smile:
Separatist,..movements are not dormant now,..If you don’t hear it about them in the media for some reason,..it doesn’t mean those are dormant,…

check the following sites,…

http://www.dalitstan.org/links/secede.html

Before it was easy to silent those movements by force,..but now,..its different ball game,..as mentioned in my post,..

**Growing global interdependence, and the revolution in technology and communications since the 1980s, have all tilted the balance in favour of separatists. They have gained access to international media, to platforms such as the UN, to support from human-rights organizations such as Amnesty International and Asia Watch, and, crucially, access to arms-bazaars. These connections have reinforced their strength to resist the state. **

If for some reason,..you don’t see these things on TV or read in the papers,..then too bad,..its coming out,..Remember,..USSR,..they had the same mentality,…:eek:

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Tariq, at least dont lie! Sikhs were butchered in West Pakistan teritorry.

You must check Bhinderwalan’ map of proposed Khalistan.

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:slight_smile: dude.. i am not a born foreigner. I was living in India till last year. And i am coming from the far south in India from a small village. Though i did my education in chennai..the capital of tamil nadu. Ok and i am marrying a tamil girl.
I know how the people of tamil land want to have a seperate homeland. They shelved it long back. Its u who have been mislead by such wonderfull blogs in the net my dear. In India the press is free. And the sikh riots and the babri demolition and the godhra and gujarat were all reported.. impartially. For a fundamental hindu it will be looking like they are giving too much importance to minorities..

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You guyz took care of the **Bhinderwalan **in 1984 by killing thousands of sikhs,…raiding their holy temples,…now don’t worry about lahore,..:eek:

When train loads of muslims coming to pakistan from India are killed & looted by sikhs and hindus,..then propoganda aganist muslims by hindus that" Sikhs are being killed by Muslims in Pakistan " created more problems than any peaceful migration,…

No wonder,..sikhs were incited with this baseless propoganda,..to act the way they did in 1947,…Later on they realized,..who was their enemy and who was their friend at the time of independance,…Talk to sikhs now,..they will tell you,..that they been used and abused by Indian Brahmins,..time and time again,…:eek:

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Vineshvk,

Wish you all the best,…in advance,..

BTW,…I haven’t discussed Godhra,..or Babri demolition or,..Gujrat yet,…those are the future topics,..too early now,…:slight_smile:

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Tariq…discussion is impossible when you lie. If you want we can declare your victory.

Anywhere at any stage, you are welcome, least you dont lie.

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Are u acting ignorent or are u ignorent.:D.I can find u many people of minority community who wants to be part of India.. best of luck mate.. have a nice life being ignorent.:hehe:. U know who is the commander in chief of indian armed forces he is a muslim. And who is the cammonder of the army? He is a sikh. Go read it out.

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Hmmm extremist hindus just dont get it nevermind let them keep dreaming that india is a haven of justic peace and quiet no violence no communal killings no sectarian chaos and each community lives in peace and quiet ahhhhhhhhhhh wake up and take your head out the clouds boy!

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funny the lengths to which a bunch of dumbass pakistanis will go to prove their hatred for india. their own country is facing impending inevitable balkanization, but their eyes are still across the border.

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Ajjan,

During 8 million people’s mass migration from pakistan to india or india to pakistan,…acts of violance were committed by both sides specially when muslim families were murdered by hindu mobs,..along with sikhs,..who were incited by hindus too,..

I have some sikhs friends,..and happened to attend their social gatherings too,..when they talk about India and Pakistan,…they blame India,..not Pakistan,..also,…All those sikhs mostly majority of them,.who are residing outside of india are not as patroitic as you think they are…now they see and compare,..what happened to them 58 years ago,..and who is to blame,…

If still you think its lie,..then give us in detail your version of the facts if any…

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whatever way you look they ca nmaintain their language and relgious identity
in india than any other place.

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Rvikz,
Good for india,…BTW,…On the **Caste **scale( 1-4),..:),..which number they are on ?:eek:

I don’t think they think same way,.give them some credit here,..will you ? eventually they can see the truth…:slight_smile:

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Tariq One thing I can say is that religious minorities minus Ahmadis will be better off in India than in Pakistan. Lets say hypothetically if Kashmir was to cede to Pakistan it will be 1947 killings all over again. Pakistan cannot guarantee the rights to practice ones religion freeely.
Just look at Shiites which are muslims. So forget about Hindus.

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do you want to see all indians integrated in to the society still maitaining their regional,relgious,liguistic identity ? we all agrees with constitution that was
drafted at the time of independance only disageeemnet is how far it is implemented.

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Verizon,

I understand what you are saying here,…in sunni shia killings,..Do you know who is funding those shias,…? IRAN,…its not pakistan,..its outside money making this thing more volatile…

Ahmadis,..have their own freedom too,..no one bothers them,…like other christain minority,…I haven’t heard anything about them ,..being killed,..like Shia-Sunni kind fiasco. We have hindus too in Pakistan,..they have full freedom too,..as they even had their own minister in Sindh assembly,…during Benazir time.

Every religion has its full freedom in Pakistan,…sunni-shia killings in controlled by Pakistani govt now…it happens once in while,..but not like before.

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Exactly,..How much is implemented,…that is a big question mark…???
which is causing all these feelings of neglect…

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if it is true we would like one big nepal.

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I thought Nepal is part of India,…isn’t it,..?
Just kidding