Best Pakistani Test Team since 1952

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I will give u a better one.

Zahoor Elahi
Saleem Elahi
Ramiz Raja*
Shafi Papa
Mansoor Akhtar
Anil Dalpat
Nadeem Khan
Rashid Khan
Akram Raza
Nasim Ul Ghani
Nadeem Ghauri

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I’ll top it with this - my ‘Back up’ Eleven

Hanif Mohammad
Saeed Anwar
Mushtaq Mohammad
Qasim Ummer
Inzimmam
Wasim Akeram
Ejaz Ahmed
Intikhab Alam
Zaheer Abbas
Sarfraz Nawaz
Abdul Razzaq

You give me these guys and I’ll make the world bow to thee :roman::k:

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perfection in the form of a team

Miss_Mohabbat
Moin Khan

beat that… :smooth:

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Dup post

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We already have ^ the 3rd umpire and the match referee :p:k:

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Openers

Saeed Anwar
Hanif Mohammed

Middle Order

Zaheer Abbas
Javed Maindad
Inzamam Ul Haq

All Rounders (Imran could make it in the side on his batting alone).

Imran Khan*
Wasim Akram

Bowlers
Sarfaraz Nawaz
Abdul Qadir
Waqar Younis.

Wicket Keeper
Wasim Bari +

The above side has good ballance. With Imran batting at 6 and Wasim at 7. These two are world class bowlers aswell. The team now has good 5 bowlers.

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CheguVera-- Your post was highly detailed and pleasing but the thing is that you will experience difference of perceptions.

Out of the eleven you posted, I differ on three players.

  • Iqbal Qasim/ Abdul Qadir== Iqbal qasim was a talented performer indeed who won us some crucial matches but Qadir was in a different league altogether. He revived the art of leg spin back in the game and had a tremendous success all over.
  • Tasleem Arif/Rashid Latif== Have you ever seen Tasleem Arif keeping? I have the highlights of some of his old matches and he was worse than Moin when it comes to keeping. If you noticed, Benaud picked Gilhcirst over Healy in his best eleven because of his batting but Gilly is not a bad keeper, he is just okay so he passes the bill with his ultra aggressive batting. If you have to pick someone because of his batting abilities, at least pick someone who could have made a better keeper like Moin who has bailed us out many a times because of his batting.
  • Saleem Malik/Inzimam== Just take a look at Inzi's record under pressure cooker situations and you will see that he has scored all over the world and match winning knocks.

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Please list one of those pressure cooker situations wrt Inzimam and you can discount bangladesh, because after all it is bangladesh. While you are at it do exclude the 92 WC semis, because if Miandad was not there talking some sense in his empty head, there is no way he would have hit those runs and besides Miandad’s innings was important, as he was there till the end.

The only innings you can list in which Pakistan ended up on the winning side, while Inziman was batting, was the last of three tests in '94 against Aus, in which Shane Warne’s last ball went for four byes, a gift from Healy and the Aussies and Pak ended up winning.

How many centuries does Inzamam have abroad in winning causes? None…

Plus Iqbal Qasim warrants his place in the team despite the exclusion of Qadir, they are not mutually exclusive. If anybody Qadir lost his position to Mushtaq Muhammad.

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Okay immediate one that come to mind are:

  • Against England at Old Trafford 2001. Scored 113 runs when Pakistan needed him the most and Pakistan levelled the series.
  • Against England at Oval, 148 (or was it Lords?) 1996.
  • Against New Zealand 120 odd.

List can go on and on. Inzimam has been the ebst player of pace bowling of his time and has scored marvellous hundreds in winning causes. I am surprised you missed his hundreds because you sure seem to have a good memory when it comes to cricket.

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The only century of note he scored abroad in a winning cause was that 148 against England at Lords that you mentioned and I will give you that.

The 135 at Dunedin against NZ in 1994 was helped in large part due to a weak NZ attack and a stage setup by a mighty 169 by Saeed Anwar, who unfortunately was run out, otherwise he would have gone on to score another hundred runs easily. Pak won this particular match by an innings and the only top order batsmen to not figure in any runs were Aamir Sohail and Akram Raza (a night watchman). Basit Ali added 85 and Saleem Malik 140 of his own.

In order to solidify his place as a great, in his 100 odd tests he should have scored a lot more centuries like his 148 at Lords in winning causes but he has failed thus leaving a big question mark over his overall capabilities even if you discount his lack of "mind management" as Imran put it. I certainly don't rank him as the best Pakistani batsman of his generation, I think that title unequivocally goes to Saeed Anwar and had he been inducted into the side earlier in the lates eighties and persisted with as Imran did with pathetic players like Ramiz Raja and Aamir Sohail, and not scape goated in the recent years, (he could still play as he demonstrated in the last WC) Saeed Anwar would have gone on to be one of the greatest of all time. But he is still the best of his generation among Pakistanis.

Inzamam may have the ability to play the fast bowlers better then most, however it is his inability to translate that into big scores, against quality bowling and in adverse condidion that leaves a lot to be desired. In contrast, Steve Waugh no talent nor extraordinary capability to play a particular type of bowling, but his grit, determination and ability to score at crucial junctures against great odds and most of all his performance has elevated his place into the pantheon of true greats of all time.

One of Inzamam's biggest disappointments was highlighted in that tragic '96 Quarter Finals against India. After SA and AS had stage a perfect platform for him to consolidate and score without any pressure by thrashing Indians for 84 runs in the first 10 overs, (even the Sri Lankans did not manage this at their own game when they successfully chased 271 in an earlier league game) all he had to do was settle down and grind the remaining runs out, instead nicking behind to a great fast bowler like prasad, who I would personally hit 4 sixes in one over if given the opportunity. Unfortunately it was left to the old stalwarts, Salim Malik and Miandad to consolidate and to make it even a contest, but it was a bit little and too late.

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I agree ^ The typical 'late cut' swirl motion is his favorite and suicidal shots.

Like yoyo,,always tiptoes forward after playing a shot. Its nothing but bad cricket,,,in fact its just like street cricket.

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This is what happens when you pick “raw talent” into national squad without grooming them thru domestic cricket.

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Let's end this argument - fatafut!! Anyone that has knowledge of cricket knows that the team that I picked will beat any other team selected above.

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yo this the team.

saeed anwar
aamirsohail
inzmam-ul-haq
yusaf youhana
ijaz ahmed
moin khan +
waseem akram
abdul razak
imrankhan*
shoaib akhter
saqlain mushtaq