best ASIA X1

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Originally posted by armughal:
**i know his records....
but as i have said to many people before, statistics r not always the best reflection of a player....
the guy ait a big-game player....

do u know that shoaib akhtar has a BATTING AVERAGE of 50+ against australia, the highest for any pakistani player against australia....
does it mean akhtar is the best pakistani batsman against aussies????**
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what a dumb question...

Statistict are only meaningful when its taken for a substanial period of time.

and for your information Shoib's average agaianst Australia in TEST is 7.25 .

match = 5
Ining = 7

Not out = 3
Runs = 29

Highest = 8

Average = 7.25

Zero = 1

How did u get Average as 50.
get ur facts right man.How can someone have average 50 who never scored a 50.

ha ha ha


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Originally posted by andha_qanoon:
**
How did u get Average as 50.
get ur facts right man.How can someone have average 50 who never scored a 50.

ha ha ha

**
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Wrong!
you can score lower than a 50 and have many not outs and still can able to maintain an average of 50.
why do you think bevan has one day average of 65, because he usualy comes 5 or 6 and having a great batting lineup like Australia, he always comes in the end and stays not out which adds up to his previous score and counting as only one batting.


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Originally posted by UMAIR316:
** Wrong!
you can score lower than a 50 and have many not outs and still can able to maintain an average of 50.
why do you think bevan has one day average of 65, because he usualy comes 5 or 6 and having a great batting lineup like Australia, he always comes in the end and stays not out which adds up to his previous score and counting as only one batting.
**
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ya.. but at least, total no. of runs in all innings should be 50 (assuming he got out at least once, otherwise average is infinite) in shoaib's case, even that is not true.

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Originally posted by UMAIR316:
** Wrong!
you can score lower than a 50 and have many not outs and still can able to maintain an average of 50.
why do you think bevan has one day average of 65, because he usualy comes 5 or 6 and having a great batting lineup like Australia, he always comes in the end and stays not out which adds up to his previous score and counting as only one batting.

**
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manu took it literally...

anyway I guess ZZ gave u a very wonderfull answer.


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[This message has been edited by ehsan (edited January 24, 2002).]

the figures i gave u were rfm the NATWEST series newsletter issued by the official sponsors....

and anyway, who cares about the stats....
tendulkar aint that good a player as his records show....
and we all know that most if his runs come at home, where the home umpires MUST see him get OUT ten times before he finally leave the ground....

i rate ganguly a much better player than tendulkar,,,,

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Originally posted by armughal:
and we all know that most if his runs come at home, where the home umpires MUST see him get OUT ten times before he finally leave the ground...,
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why dont u check SRT's record at home and abroad before writing such crap?

SRT abroad
49 tests 3785runs 177 highest 54.07 avg

SRT at home
40 tests 3634 runs 217 highest 62.65 avg

Ganguly is perhaps better when it comes to ODI's. But wont find place even in Indian test team soon.

Agreed that SRT's home avg. is higher. But even his abroad avg. is more than career avg. of lara or ganguly or anyone for that matter.

[This message has been edited by ZZ (edited January 24, 2002).]

IMHO, Sachin Tendulkar is the best batsman to come out of India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka.

Average of nearly 58, and 27 centuries in 89 test matches speaks for itself. He has proved himself at home and abroad.

Please note: I have not even mentioned his record breaking one day performances :)

[This message has been edited by 2bornot2b (edited January 24, 2002).]

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Originally posted by armughal:
**the figures i gave u were rfm the NATWEST series newsletter issued by the official sponsors....

and anyway, who cares about the stats....
tendulkar aint that good a player as his records show....
and we all know that most if his runs come at home, where the home umpires MUST see him get OUT ten times before he finally leave the ground....

i rate ganguly a much better player than tendulkar,,,,**
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Another **** about tendulkar.
It seems u r in constant denial of fact that he is Indian and is the best batsman after Bradman as Bradman himself said it.

for other facts read ZZ comments.!!!!


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Originally posted by armughal:
and anyway, who cares about the stats....
tendulkar aint that good a player as his records show....

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Mughal bhai, You are right, He is the worst batsman - Best batsman in teh world are 1. Muthaia Murlidharan 2. G. Macgrath 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Alan donald

Infact, His management Company paid Bradman whole lot of money to say that He batted like him.

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and we all know that most if his runs come at home, where the home umpires MUST see him get OUT ten times before he finally leave the ground....
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Yeah, In australia - The umpire invented a new way to get him out - HBW (Head Before Wicket) - This new technology is not known to the Indian Umpires that's why it takes 11 attempts to get him out of the field.

Also, When he scored Century against all those countries - their main players were not playing. Like Against Pakistan in Chepauk Only Wasim Akram/Waqar Younis/Saqlain were playing and as well know they are from Pakistan A team. Same way Against Australia their main Batsman G. Mcgrath and Jason Gillespie used to open bowling. Same with SA -their main batsman Alan Donald and Pollock. Now with these mediocre bowlers opening the bowling with lolypops anyone can score those many runs.

ZZ and others - Is your cricketing brain so pathetic that you guys are arguing such a simple fact with Mughal bhai Saab.


AK

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Gentleman, can we get back to the thread and maybe someone can start a new thread to discuss SRT.

Right Ehsaan...

let us get started on who should be 3,4,5 in Best ASIA XI.

My chice was Sachin
javed and
Zaheer or Vishwanath


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These guys Sachin, Miandad and Vishwanath are the world's best middle order. It doesnt matter where they come, They can adjust their game to suit the requirement. All of them can bat in all the positions.

However I would have the following,
1. Haneef
2. Gavaskar
3. Viswanath
4. Sachin
5. Miandad
6. Zaheer..

My choice of keeper is Syed Kirmani....

Well victory but dont u think right now we have one batsman extra.
becouse we still need 6 players

3 pace bolwer ( preferable 2 allrounder)
1 leg spinner
1 off spinner
1 wicket keeper

so I guess we need to get rid fo either Vishwanath or Zaheer

Justa thought!!!


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[This message has been edited by andha_qanoon (edited January 24, 2002).]

That is really tough to choose, but my choices are to drop Viswanath (I hate it).

so my new team is
1. Haneef
2. Gavaskar
3. Miandad
4. Sachin
5. Zaheer
6. Kirmani
7. Imran Khan
8. Wasim Akram
9. Waqar
10. Muttaiah Muralitharan
11. Chandrashekhar

It is very tough to choose between the two, but I will settle for this final team.

  1. Haneef
  2. Gavaskar
  3. Miandad
  4. Sachin
  5. Zaheer
  6. Imran
  7. Wasim
  8. Waqar
  9. Muralitharan
  10. Chandrashekhar
  11. Kirmani (WK)

I would be glad to be the 12th man.

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Victory,

I think instead of Waqar we can go for KAPIL .fact that he is agreat all rounder will help tehy batting a lot.

so My team woul dbe

1.Gavaskar
2.Haneef
3.Javed
4.Sachin
5.Zaheer
6.Kapil
7.Imran
8.Kirmani/Bari ( I am confused whome to pick)
9.Akram
10.Murlidhran ( i guess he is the Best off spinner world has ever seen)
11.Chandrashekhar ( he is the Best legspinner world has ever seen,May be shane Warne was close to him)


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[This message has been edited by andha_qanoon (edited January 24, 2002).]

[This message has been edited by andha_qanoon (edited January 24, 2002).]

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Originally posted by andha_qanoon:
**Victory,

I think instead of Waqar we can go for KAPIL .fact that he is agreat all rounder will help tehy batting a lot.

so My team woul dbe

1.Gavaskar
2.Haneef
3.Javed
4.Sachin
5.Zaheer
6.Kapil
7.Imran
8.Kirmani/Bari ( I am confused whome to pick)
9.Akram
10.Murlidhran ( i guess he is the Best off spinner world has ever seen)
11.Chandrashekhar ( he is the Best legspinner world has ever seen,May be shane Warne was close to him)

**
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A pretty formidable team and very difficult to beat. As for wicket keeper i would go for Bari because Bari was the better keeper of the two even though Karmani was a better batsman. But with such an impressive lineup of bats man do we need another batsman? Therefore I would vote for Bari.

Quote: Andha Qanoon
I think instead of Waqar we can go for KAPIL .fact that he is agreat all rounder will help tehy batting a lot.


God ! How did I miss him???

For once I did over look Kapilda.

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Originally posted by ehsan:
** A pretty formidable team and very difficult to beat. As for wicket keeper i would go for Bari because Bari was the better keeper of the two even though Karmani was a better batsman. But with such an impressive lineup of bats man do we need another batsman? Therefore I would vote for Bari.**
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Agreed Ehsaan 100%.