Benefits After Suicide

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Re: Benefits After Suicide

@unknownnn

Bibi the point is if Allah wanted him/her not to attempt suicide then HE would have changed his/her mind …… now you will say that person had free will ( which is an illusion) hence he/she did that but in real it is just the environment he/she was exposed too ( by Allah) which made him/her act in such a way ? ……. That’s what Allah wanted & that’s exactly what happened? ……. Simple ….…. If Allah wanted HE would have changed the surroundings ya kuch aur? ……. Allah can do anything & everything ……… Allah knows that we human beings are tend to do such things then again who created us …. Allah did? …… that was his/her time that’s why he/she died & suicide was exactly the way how his/her death was written ……. Even suicides cant happen without Allah’s will because Izraeel comes to collect the soul by HIS will ……. Do you really think that Izraeel came all the way down to earth because some random person on earth decided to attempt suicide? ….. no, its not like that …… Don’t tell me this world is going on & on because of us humans? …… Allah is the supreme authority ……. HE is operating everything ……

Why you guys think that only good things can come from Allah & bad things from human beings such as suicide, rape etc ? ……… I MEAN SERIOUSLY ……

Lets suppose if Allah didn’t order Izraeel to take that particular persons soul then he would have survived( because Allah wanted him/her to) , no matter how much he/she tries for suicide. when its not meant to be it will NOT happen …, & suicide is just haram & Allah is gafoorurahaeem, what if that person asks for forgiveness after that survival ? …….. the point is aisa hona hi tha …… us ko aise hi marna tha ….. agar Allah ne us ko aisi maut se bachana hota ( like I mentioned before) to bacha letay …. Nothing is difficult for Allah ….. agar us ko dozakh se bachaana hota tu bacha lete ….. but it wasn’t written like that in his/her “KISMET” …

& as far as haqeeqats are concerned …. There are only 2 types of taqdeers….. one is taqdeer-e-muallaq & one is taqdeer –e- mubbarram… if I am not wrong ……. One is fixed while the other one can be changed by duas … then again free will has nothing to do with this because duas are predestined too? ….. we think we are making dua by our choice but we are actually not… again illusion …… & let me mention duas “CAN” change things in our “KISMET” …… CAN change ….. “shayad change ho jaye” …… see again wohi hona he jo Allah ki marzi he ….. chahe dua mango ya na mango …. Allah ne hame yaha pe bhi inform kar diya he ke sab kuch meri marzi se hota he …. Simple ….. is liye ho sakta he …… no gurantee … hona wohi he jo Allah ki marzi he … end of story …

Peace unknownnn

Time and again it has been told to you that we do have freedom to choose … This is within the Knowledge of Allah (SWT) … What Allah (SWT) Allows to happen is not the same as what Allah (SWT) has Legislated for us to do … The Decree is a combination of what we can’t change and of what we can have changed … The only illusion in this matter is that we think ‘we are doing things ourselves’ … When in fact our decisions are facilitated by Allah (SWT) to give us the impression that our choices lead on to real effects … But the decisions we make are not illusion … Even if they in the Knowledge of Allah (SWT) … they are 100% our decisions and 100% Known by Allah (SWT) … You cannot preach otherwise because that is not the Islamic position … If you do not understand this position then say so … But do not try to say something that which is not the case … I have noticed that you are doing this a lot …

And it is true … Some suicide attempts are unsuccessful, some however are successful … In neither case was it Allah (SWT)'s Will for any individual to commit suicide … But if that happens to be the case then in full Knowledge of Allah (SWT) the individual’s decision path led him in that dark space and Allah (SWT) facilitated it … With or without influence … such thoughts and feelings of suicide come as a test … To pass the test is to not lose hope and not to fall in to despair … To fail the test is to place too much worth in the hardships of this life and an attempt to escape them … This is simple … Your what ifs and self deluded problems are you own …

There are so many problems in your discourse …

It is true belief that bad is a result of our inefficiencies and good is a result of the favour of Allah (SWT) … It is also true belief that both good and evil are made by Allah (SWT) … But again evil is not chosen for us until we choose it for ourselves … The reason why Allah (SWT) Knows we have a portion of evil at a given point in our lives is because He Knows what decisions we make in all our decision making junctures, He also Knows in which of those junctures we seek His Help … But our decision is not illusion … Or else punishment would be unfair and unjust …