Benazir blasted by Nawaz Sharif & Fazlur Rehman for "deal with Musharraf"

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Very good point.

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‘Deal’ bitter pill for democracy, says Benazir

Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto further fuelled speculations about an impending deal between her and President Gen Pervez Musharraf by agreeing to a suggestion that such a deal would adversely affect her credibility, but for her, she said, restoration of democracy in Pakistan and saving the country from falling into the hands of extremists was more important than her credibility. She had been asked, would not her credibility be severely damaged if she entered into a deal with President Musharraf. The PPP chairperson was answering questions on Tuesday evening after a lecture on the current situation in Pakistan at the jam-packed Hong Kong Theatre in the London School of Economics and Sciences. Replying to another question, she accepted for the first time that it was her government’s mistake in the mid-1990s to encourage and promote the Taliban.

She said at that time she had thought the Taliban to be a peaceful and stabilising alternative to warring Mujahideen factions. She reserved most of her wrath for the ruling PML, MMA and elements promoting extremism in Pakistan. She did blame the army and the ISI for all the ills the country is facing today **but took extreme care to avoid mentioning President Musharraf by name even in passing. **She said that without ousting the PML and its allies from power, the war against extremism and terrorism could not be won. She was highly critical of the government for allowing what she called creeping Talibanisation in the country by ignoring the important task of reforming madressahs and allowing religious parties like the MMA and militant organisations like the Lashkars to operate unhindered in the country and marginalising popular moderate political parties. Answering a question, she said the PPP, PML-N and other parties in the ARD were united on the issue of restoration of democracy and their one-point goal was to close the doors for ever on army take-overs. She said there was only one way to combat successfully the creeping extremism in the country and that was to let the moderate political parties having faith in undiluted democracy to function unhindered. In her lecture, she traced the history of what she called the rise of extremism in Pakistan and held the 25 years of army rule in the last 30 years responsible for the serious crisis now engulfing the country. She accused the West and the US of buying crises from Pakistan which the successive military regimes in Pakistan, according to her, were able to sell successfully. A short burst of mocking laughter ensued from a section of audience when Ms Bhutto claimed that if her second government had not been dismissed in 1996, the 9/11 incident would not have happened.

http://www.dawn.com/2007/04/26/top1.htm

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Benazir defends deal with Musharraf

Pakistan People’s Party Chairperson Benazir Bhutto stunned the audience at a seminar on Tuesday evening when she said that although her “political credibility” would suffer if she joined the military-led government in Pakistan, it would be good for the country’s “democratic, constitutional and development interests”. Speaking at the seminar on ‘Current political situation in Pakistan’, the former prime minister also regretted that she had done a wrong thing by supporting the Taliban movement within Afghanistan. The seminar was organised by the Pakistan Society at the London School of Economics. It was the first time that Benazir gave a clear hint to the Pakistani audience that she was ready to take the risk of getting politically “discredited” by joining the Musharraf-led government in Pakistan. She also told the Pakistani students studying in different colleges and universities of London that the time has come to reform the military and intelligence agencies of Pakistan, and sought their suggestions in this regard.

**During her hour-long lecture, the PPP chairperson gave a clear hint that she might join the general-led government, knowing it might hurt her own political credibility in Pakistan. However, she justified any future arrangement with General Musharraf in the name of “restoration of democracy, Constitution and rule of law and development”. Although in her recent interviews Benazir has been saying that she is ready for a deal with Musharraf, but it is the first time that she openly indicated that she might join the General Musharraf-led government. **Earlier, the self-exiled PPP chairperson lashed out at the present government for failing to control militancy in Pakistan. She said the rulers were using these militant forces to prolong their rule in Pakistan. She said the religious parties were deliberately promoted in Pakistan by the military establishment to show the West that if the military rulers were not backed in Pakistan, these religious elements would take over the country. That is why, Benazir said, instead of Makhdoom Amin Fahim, who enjoyed the support of majority, Maulana Fazlur Rehman was promoted as opposition leader in the National Assembly. The former prime minister claimed that during her tenure she had introduced several reforms in the Madrassa culture and as a result no terrorist activity ever took place either within or outside Pakistan. She also narrated how she escaped murder attempts, how her father was hanged, two brothers were killed, and husband jailed.

Benazir also criticised the Western countries for their support to military governments in Pakistan. Politicians are usually blamed for all the wrongdoings, albeit Pakistan has always been ruled by military generals either directly or indirectly, she added. During the last 30 years, the military has directly or indirectly ruled Pakistan for 25 years. Despite this politicians are blamed for all the problems in the country, she lamented. The PPP chairperson held the West responsible for the birth of the Taliban as they had recruited Muslim youths in the name of Jihad from across the world to fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan. The military had got maximum support and benefits from the West in the Jihad. She said the West’s support to the military rulers in Pakistan could be judged from the fact that 75 per cent aid to Pakistan was given when military generals were ruling the country, while only 25 per cent aid was given during the civilian governments. Responding to a question, Benazir said it was her government’s mistake to support the Taliban movement within Afghanistan. The ex-prime minister said she had supported the Taliban in the hope that they would restore peace in their war-ravaged country to pave way for the repatriation of four million Afghan refugees living in Pakistan. However, she regretted her government’s decision of supporting the Taliban.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=7424

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Chalo jee, is deal sey President BB ka bhi Halaala kara daiN gey

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You mean she has been divorced by Asif!

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That must be part of the "deal" as well :), as he sure seems absent from all the appearances she is making these days.

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I mean political Halaala

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come on people..this is hitting below the belt. why do we have to discuss her personal life? I am sure mush supporters wont find it amusing if I mentioned anything derogatory abt Sehba Musharraf.

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Sorry buddy!

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I think she is repeating the same mistake as her farther did more than three decades ago, made a compromise with a dictator and which resulted in breakup of country in 1971 and later on his hanging.

FARID

http://www.dawn.com/2007/04/26/top1.htm

‘Deal’ bitter pill for democracy, says Benazir

By M. Ziauddin

LONDON, April 25: Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto further fuelled speculations about an impending deal between her and President Gen Pervez Musharraf by agreeing to a suggestion that such a deal would adversely affect her credibility, but for her, she said, restoration of democracy in Pakistan and saving the country from falling into the hands of extremists was more important than her credibility.

She had been asked, would not her credibility be severely damaged if she entered into a deal with President Musharraf.

The PPP chairperson was answering questions on Tuesday evening after a lecture on the current situation in Pakistan at the jam-packed Hong Kong Theatre in the London School of Economics and Sciences.

Replying to another question, she accepted for the first time that it was her government’s mistake in the mid-1990s to encourage and promote the Taliban.

She said at that time she had thought the Taliban to be a peaceful and stabilising alternative to warring Mujahideen factions.

She reserved most of her wrath for the ruling PML, MMA and elements promoting extremism in Pakistan. She did blame the army and the ISI for all the ills the country is facing today but took extreme care to avoid mentioning President Musharraf by name even in passing.

She said that without ousting the PML and its allies from power, the war against extremism and terrorism could not be won.

She was highly critical of the government for allowing what she called creeping Talibanisation in the country by ignoring the important task of reforming madressahs and allowing religious parties like the MMA and militant organisations like the Lashkars to operate unhindered in the country and marginalising popular moderate political parties.

Answering a question, she said the PPP, PML-N and other parties in the ARD were united on the issue of restoration of democracy and their one-point goal was to close the doors for ever on army take-overs. She said there was only one way to combat successfully the creeping extremism in the country and that was to let the moderate political parties having faith in undiluted democracy to function unhindered.

In her lecture, she traced the history of what she called the rise of extremism in Pakistan and held the 25 years of army rule in the last 30 years responsible for the serious crisis now engulfing the country.

She accused the West and the US of buying crises from Pakistan which the successive military regimes in Pakistan, according to her, were able to sell successfully.

A short burst of mocking laughter ensued from a section of audience when Ms Bhutto claimed that if her second government had not been dismissed in 1996, the 9/11 incident would not have happened.

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So lets highlight some stuff from benazir's speech that silly billy did not but is worth noting

*Pakistan People’s Party Chairperson Benazir Bhutto stunned the audience at a seminar on Tuesday evening when *

why did she stop lying for a change?

*she said that although her “political credibility” would suffer if she joined the military-led government in Pakistan, it would be good for the country’s “democratic, constitutional and development interests”. *

1- her credbility?

2- would really be good for her own interests.

*the former prime minister also regretted that she had done a wrong thing by supporting the Taliban movement within Afghanistan. *

wonder why she does not say that when she is on news shows in US ;)

*Earlier, the self-exiled PPP chairperson lashed out at the present government for failing to control militancy in Pakistan. She said the rulers were using these militant forces to prolong their rule in Pakistan. *

explains the rise in militancy in her era? the massacres of shias every few weeks by llashkar e jhangvi idiots? I guess she is speaking from experience

The former prime minister claimed that during her tenure she had introduced several reforms in the Madrassa culture and as a result no terrorist activity ever took place either within or outside Pakistan.

what reforms?
terrirst activities did not take place? err I do recall the terrorist activities of sipah and lashkar etc.
and fails to factor in the difference in situation with worldwide militancy back in her era versus worldwide militancy in this decade.

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She also narrated how she escaped murder attempts, how her father was hanged, two brothers were killed, and husband jailed.**

yeah the brothers killings were fairly shady were they not?

*Benazir also criticised the Western countries for their support to military governments in Pakistan. *

chip on the shoulder for being cast aside until she was needed again ;)

*Politicians are usually blamed for all the wrongdoings, albeit Pakistan has always been ruled by military generals either directly or indirectly, she added. During the last 30 years, the military has directly or indirectly ruled Pakistan for 25 years. Despite this politicians are blamed for all the problems in the country, she lamented. *

awww so we should nto blame the politicians? should we tell the british and swiss courts that politicians should not be blamed, how about changing the documents shared in US congress naming her and the corruption which led to change in banking laws. awwwww poor baby, just got a bad rep for doign nothing. bay chari..

*The PPP chairperson held the West responsible for the birth of the Taliban as they had recruited Muslim youths in the name of Jihad from across the world to fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan. *

I do wonder why her tone is so different when she is on fox news :D cant stand her ground anywhere..can she

*Responding to a question, Benazir said it was her government’s mistake to support the Taliban movement within Afghanistan. The ex-prime minister said she had supported the Taliban in the hope that they would restore peace in their war-ravaged country to pave way for the repatriation of four million Afghan refugees living in Pakistan. However, she regretted her government’s decision of supporting the Taliban. *

she will deny it somewhere else or say she had no choice etc etc.

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and then there is more...

she said, restoration of democracy in Pakistan and saving the country from falling into the hands of extremists was more important than her credibility.

such a savior

She had been asked, would not her credibility be severely damaged if she entered into a deal with President Musharraf.

Replying to another question, she accepted for the first time that it was her government’s mistake in the mid-1990s to encourage and promote the Taliban.

challo ji...accept kiya toh.

She said at that time she had thought the Taliban to be a peaceful and stabilising alternative to warring Mujahideen factions.

well, you thought wrong babe..
lets go back and see your comments regarding taleban from a a few years go.
why do you lie so much..

** took extreme care to avoid mentioning President Musharraf by name even in passing.**

so whats the deal
she is scared? or she does not blame him? or she is goign to say whatever she needs to for power? tell tell...

** She said there was only one way to combat successfully the creeping extremism in the country and that was to let the moderate political parties having faith in undiluted democracy to function unhindered.**

translation: let nawaz and me loot and plunder the country..unhindered :)

A short burst of mocking laughter ensued from a section of audience when Ms Bhutto claimed that if her second government had not been dismissed in 1996, the 9/11 incident would not have happened.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

no

BAWHAWHAWHAWHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

oh man...where is john stewart when you need him.

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I wonder if Nawaz Sharif was at BB's latest appearance, as he only lives some miles from this college I believe?

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ahahah yeah maybe he was asking the questions :D

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Deal seems imminent.

President instead of running campaign for Q league has decided to take foriegn tour.

Today, Raja Pervaiz of PPP who has always been denying deal news on talk shows said, the dialogue between BB and Musharraf are for restoration of democracy.

I think BB has probably given up on being PM for another term, may be she wants to take a role similar to Altaf Hussain.

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That ‘college’ is one of the world’s best universities

how ignorance must be bliss for some people :cb:

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oh, so he could save on cab fare? good insight

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well, London school of economics is not really a university :slight_smile:

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Yup, I know that. I was studying there (at LSE) for a year.

Thank you. :cb:

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You too :eek: . Which year?