Re: Benazir Assassinations - the stake holders
^^ if start naming individual enemies of Bhuttos, the list will go over the roof. Lets add them all under "Personal Enemies of Bhutto Family".
Others are mostly political enemies.
Re: Benazir Assassinations - the stake holders
What about Zardari and the Murtaza Bhutto clan? Do we special category for him?
Who Benefits from Bhutto’s Killing
The inevitable question after any assassination is: who benefited from it? The answer in this case is Musharraf and the extremists. Bhutto was the enemy of both. Could they have worked together to eliminate her?
With her murder Musharraf has had his chief rival removed and he can resume his authoritarian rule with the Americans off his back: Washington has nowhere else to turn. He is the man. He has secured power–for the time being anyway. Musharraf has played America brilliantly. His intelligence service helped create and still has ties to al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Indeed, Bhutto accused him of harboring extremists for just such an attack. Their claim of responsibility gives Musharraf deniability, since he is supposed to be fighting them.
Now Musharraf can clamp down on the human rights and democracy crowd, his real enemy, while running his phony war against extremists, all the while taking American military aid intended to fight terrorism and use it to upgrade his defenses against India. A very clever, but dastardly plan.
If Musharraf’s claims are to be believed, then rogue elements of his intelligence service were involved in the killing and not Musharraf himself. But the effect is the same: he is not effectively fighting the terrorists and he benefits from their enmity with democracy and from American financial backing.
But Musharraf’s game is dangerous. For the moment, the Taliban and al-Qaeda won’t touch him, because he has their back, as it were. He is an uneasy ally for now, keeping the gullible Americans, or at least American public, believing he is actually fighting them.
Musharraf must fear that this game will last only until al-Qaeda and the Taliban feel strong enough to try to overthrow him and rule Pakistan. That day hopefully may never come. But in the meantime he is a very useful placeholder for them.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
Makhdoom Amin Fahim is the obvious answer.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
aitezaz ahsan who was sidelined.
fatima and ghinwa bhutto, they have a grudge against her
zardari because reports were that she was going to leave him
al qaeda because she was going to win and she was going to allow fata to be bombed by amrikan
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
kehkashan : Haha, you're funny; Makhdoom Amin Fahim knows he wont get anywhere without Benazir Bhutto. People liked her and because of that people liked him or anyone else in the PPP. Just like in the past some people who were loved by the people because they were in the PPP but when they left or were told to leave the party arent even talked about anymore.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
kehkashan : Haha, you're funny; Makhdoom Amin Fahim knows he wont get anywhere without Benazir Bhutto. People liked her and because of that people liked him or anyone else in the PPP. Just like in the past some people who were loved by the people because they were in the PPP but when they left or were told to leave the party arent even talked about anymore.
That doesn't mean he can't try.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
At this time the benefit of the doubt must be given to Musharraf, he is the leader of the country he is what holds the country togather at this moment. Let the the country be united and stand behind your leader and if things change as evidence and not rumors surface then reacess and take action. That said the ISI must be scrubbed, now. If not Pakistans future, as we know it, is in doubt.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
^ How can there be any evidences etc found when the people in charge are the real culprits and they wont let anyone do anything to themselves. Already they have started spreading the word that the lady was killed by accident and not by bullets or the bomb which was told before.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
^ How can there be any evidences etc found when the people in charge are the real culprits and they wont let anyone do anything to themselves. Already they have started spreading the word that the lady was killed by accident and not by bullets or the bomb which was told before.
so if ppl in charge are responsible then benazir was responsible for murtaza's death?
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
I dont really want to get involved in the speculation and blame debate just now as emotions are too high on all sides but I have to say that some opinions are so stupid ke one is baffled as to how they reached to such conclusions.
As far as Musharraff is concerned, I think it is about time that he leaves. Not that I think he has been the worst leader but because the the public opinion has turned too negative. It is in Pakistan's interest that he announces a new election in 3-6 moths time and also announces that he will step down when the new government takes over. I would have loved to see a Musharraff-BB government but unfortunately she was killed in such a barbaric manner.
As far as Musharraff's involvement in this case is concerned people are forgetting a few very important facts. Musharraf is not the strongest person in Pakistan, Kiani is. People are also forgetting that Kiani was the head os ISI up till a month ago. People are again forgetting Kiani's links with Benazir. Kiani was the one who brought Musharraff and BB together and acted as the mediator.
Whether a bullet killed her or a head injury, i think it is stupid to argue. She was murdered in a terrorism act. No body here has a degree in forensic science or has any experience in investigations. People hell bent on blaming one party or the other keep discarding their own theories with every new piece of news and conjuring up new ones.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
^ How can there be any evidences etc found when the people in charge are the real culprits and they wont let anyone do anything to themselves. Already they have started spreading the word that the lady was killed by accident and not by bullets or the bomb which was told before.
There is a global eye on this, bullsh1t will not fly through, multiple source and whatnot, let's see what a couple of days can clear up.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
Murtazas situation was completely different! dont make a fool of yourself by comparing the two. Benazir herself recently withdrawed from where her sister in law was also standing...so if you say she killed her brother for the position, then her sacrifice now proves that she was never hungry for the position!
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
I dont really want to get involved in the speculation and blame debate just now as emotions are too high on all sides but I have to say that some opinions are so stupid ke one is baffled as to how they reached to such conclusions.
As far as Musharraff is concerned, I think it is about time that he leaves. Not that I think he has been the worst leader but because the the public opinion has turned too negative. It is in Pakistan's interest that he announces a new election in 3-6 moths time and also announces that he will step down when the new government takes over. I would have loved to see a Musharraff-BB government but unfortunately she was killed in such a barbaric manner.
As far as Musharraff's involvement in this case is concerned people are forgetting a few very important facts. Musharraf is not the strongest person in Pakistan, Kiani is. People are also forgetting that Kiani was the head os ISI up till a month ago. People are again forgetting Kiani's links with Benazir. Kiani was the one who brought Musharraff and BB together and acted as the mediator.
Whether a bullet killed her or a head injury, i think it is stupid to argue. She was murdered in a terrorism act. No body here has a degree in forensic science or has any experience in investigations. People hell bent on blaming one party or the other keep discarding their own theories with every new piece of news and conjuring up new ones.
I agree.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
Murtazas situation was completely different! dont make a fool of yourself by comparing the two. Benazir herself recently withdrawed from where her sister in law was also standing...so if you say she killed her brother for the position, then her sacrifice now proves that she was never hungry for the position!
with her uncle, niece and sister in law coming up strongly against her she did not want to take chances.
if regime leaders are respinsible for poltiical figure assassinations as you indicated, then by the same token when murtaza bhutto was killed she was the PM, and murtaza was challenging her. why are you putting conditions on it now, either regime leaders are responsible by default per your prior statement or they are not.
Benazir not hungry for position? she sold all principles in making a deal with musharraf, all she was interested in was power and NRO, and for Pakistani govt to stop being a party to lawsuits against her so she could save her billions gained through looting the nation. to repeal the 2 term limit.
you want to see someone who did not compromise and showed he was not hungry for power, look at nawaz and look at imran.
Re: Who Benefits from Bhutto's Killing
As far as Musharraff's involvement in this case is concerned people are forgetting a few very important facts. Musharraf is not the strongest person in Pakistan, Kiani is. People are also forgetting that Kiani was the head os ISI up till a month ago. People are again forgetting Kiani's links with Benazir. Kiani was the one who brought Musharraff and BB together and acted as the mediator.
in addition Kiani was her military secretary when she was in power, he was a bhutto insider to begin with.