Believer Ask Forgiveness Of Non-Believer (Polytheist)

[Sa1eem]

Re: Believer Ask Forgiveness Of Non-Believer (Polytheist)

@kchughtai

^ please correct the reference. it is 19:45-46 not 16:45-46

btw you said "Brother, what you wrote is Muslim Aqeedah. "
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Do the people who have translated as “O my father” have been kicked out of the fold of Islam by you??**
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Brother, thanks for pointing out my mistake, that I corrected.

Anyhow, coming to topic, you are right that in all translations of Quran, when referring to Ibrahim (AS) addressing Azar, word Father is used.

But does it matter … or anyone using ‘Father’ in their translation also believed that Azar was biological father of Ibrahim (AS)?

And even if some ignorantly believed that Azar was biological father of Ibrahim (AS), does it mean they had correct belief?

When Ayah 26:219 and various hadiths say that ancestors of Prophet (SAW) were all people of Iman, people who were pure and never did any wrong … then how father of Ibrahim (AS) who was also ancestor of Prophet (SAW) could be idol worshipper?

Let look at translation of some other ayahs.

Quran 11:42-46:
So the Ark floated with them on the waves (towering) like mountains, and Noah called out to his son, who had separated himself (from the rest): “O my son! embark with us, and be not with the unbelievers!”

The son replied: “I will betake myself to some mountain: it will save me from the water.” Noah said: "This day nothing can save, from the command of Allah, any but those on whom He hath mercy! "And the waves came between them, and the son was among those overwhelmed in the Flood.

Then the word went forth: “O earth! swallow up thy water, and O sky! Withhold (thy rain)!” and the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: “Away with those who do wrong!”

And Noah called upon his Lord, and said: “O my Lord! surely my son is of my family! and Thy promise is true, and Thou art the justest of Judges!”

He said: “O Noah! He is not of thy family: For his conduct is unrighteous. So ask not of Me that of which thou hast no knowledge! I give thee counsel, lest thou act like the ignorant!”

From above ayahs, it is obvious that Allah as well as Noah (AS) saying that the one referred was son of Noah (AS). So, does it mean sons are not part of a person’s family?

In above ayah (11:46), Allah told Noah (AS) that one left out is not his family, but our belief is that he was son of Noah (AS) and part of his family. So, is having belief that one left out was son of Noah (AS) and part of Noah (AS) family, wrong belief?

Answer is obvious, that Noah (AS) was talking about his son who is part of his (AS) family. But in ayah 11:46, family member mentioned by Allah is not about biological family member, but unworthy family member (a family member, whose conduct is unrighteous), and thus being unworthy family member, he is declared as not a family member … or ‘not a (worthy) family member’.

Important to note is that, Noah (AS) called his son member of his family and Allah says that he is not member of your family … but for Muslim, both statements are right, one referring to biological family member and other referring to ousted family member because he was unrighteous (or not worthy family member).

In same way, Azar is referred as Father in Ayah as one who raised Ibrahim (AS) because he was uncle or guardian … but it is Muslim’s belief that Azar was not biological father of Ibrahim (AS) … both statements are right.

Let see another Ayah where relationship is used in similar way … referring to Maryam (AS) relationship with Harun (AS).

Ayah 19:28: “O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!”

Even though Quran says that Maryam (AS) was sister of Aaron, we Muslims do not believe that Maryam (AS) had any brother ‘Aaron’ or that she was sister of Aaron (Haroon), rather we believe that Maryam (AS) was from the family of Harum (AS), and when she was called sister of Aaron, it means from the family of Harum (AS) … so what?

Statement ‘O sister of Aaron’ in Quran is true and so is our belief that ‘Maryam (AS) was not biological sister of Aaron’.

[We should know that Maryam (AS) was not descendant of Harum (AS) but both Harum (AS) and Maryam (AS) were born from two different sons of Yaqub (AS) … so Maryam (AS) can be called sister of Harun (AS) … just like we say that relationship of Prophet (SAW) and Musa (AS) was of Brotherhood, as they were children of two brothers, Ismail (AS) and Ishaq (AS)]