Btw, which one will come first?.. if Esa As, then no problem recognizing him and Imam Mahdi..but if Imam Mahdi will come first then it creates problems.
Like what kind of problems? and BTW what's your say on your fellow, known as Dajjal?
Good points raised Psyah Bhai,
This fact should also be noted that all major religions of the world are waiting for some promised one to lead. Muslims are waiting for Mahdi, Hindu for Krishna and thinking about this Islam is the final religion and Quran is the final book and Allah I guess wont be sending a Mahdi for each faith. Allah likes unity not division.
Hope the below text would clear your mind and many others here on this forum as to how the end of time is near.
Narrated Abu Hurayrah: Allah's Apostle said:
"The Hour will not be established until two big groups fight each other whereupon there will be a great number of casualties on both sides and they will be following one and the same religious doctrine, until about 30 dajjals appear, and each of them will claim that he is Allah's Apostle..."
(Related by Bukhari and Muslim)
The last of these Dajjals would be the False Messiah, Al Masih Ad Dajjal.
Once the Prophet of Allah said, while delivering a ceremonial speech at an occasion of a solar eclipse, as Samura son of Jundub reported:
*"...Verily by God, the Last Hour will not come until 30 liars of prophecy will appear and the final one will be the One-eyed False Messiah." *
(Narrated by Imam Ahmad as a sound Hadeeth).
In another authentic hadeeth, the Prophet of Allah informed that of 27 dajjals, 4 of them would be women:
Huthaifa narrated, that the Prophet said:
"In my Ummah (community/nation), there are 27 dajjals of liars, including 4 women (who will proclaim themselves Prophets). I am the last Prophet and none will come after me."
(Related by Imam Ahmad and Al-Tabrani as a sound hadeeth)
Therefore, there would be 27-30 Dajjals who would appear, 4 of which would be women and the last of which would be the False Messiah, who the true Messiah, Prophet 'Eessa ("Jesus") would kill. The Prophet of Allah (Prophet Muhammad) already closed the loophole of building a series of Prophets and confirmed the impossibility of any newcomer as a Prophet after him. The dajjals he mentioned that have already appeared are discussed below. As I find more of them, I shall list them:
Musailama al-Kazzab: Among the first false claimants to Prophecy was Musailama al-Kazzab, who appeared during the time of Prophet Muhammad (upon whom be blessings and peace) and his Companions and caused numerous troubles among Muslims and had many followers. He eventually surrendered along with his supporters in Al-Yamamah battle, led by the first Caliph Abu Bakr, and was eventually killed.
Sajah al-Kahenah: Along with Musailama in falsely claiming Prophethood, was his wife, Sajah al-Kahenah, although she later reversed her position after her husband, Musailama, had been killed.
Saf son of Sayyad: Another False claimant to Prophethood that appeared during the time of the Prophet and his companions, was Saf son of Sayyad. He claimed he was a Prophet when he was on the threshold of adolescence, and was initially believed to be the False Messiah, as his characteristics were the same as those of the False Messiah. He later repented and embraced Islam.
4.** Tulayha son of Khwailid**: Tulayha was another of the false Prophets who appeared during the time of the Prophet and his companions, but later repented and returned to the fold of Islam.
Aswad al-Ansi: Also during the time of the Prophet and his companions was another false Prophet, named Aswad al-Ansi. He was based in Yemen and was killed by the Companions of the Prophet.
Al-Mukhtar Al-Thaqafi: A Shi’ite rebel, al-Mukhtar son of Abi Ubayd is also accused of being a False Prophet. He claimed to be a representative of the Mahdi. Millennialist connotations surfaced after Mukhtar's rebellion, following his announcement to the people of Kufa that he was a representative of the Mahdi.
Mahmud son of al-Faraj: In Samara, a false Prophet by the name of Mahmud son of al-Faraj appeared in 849-850 CE with a claim that a Quran was revealed to him through the angel Gabriel. He is reported to have some followers in Samara and Baghdad. He was executed on the orders of caliph, al-Mutawakkil.
"Bab": Another liar/false claimant to prophecy, and the predecessor of Bahaullah, was Mizra Ali Muhammad, who initially declared himself the "Bab" (Gate) to the Shi'ite's Mahdi, and eventually progressed into other claims. He was embraced by the Shaykhis sect of Shi'a Islam, who were then renamed "Babis". Subsequently, he declared himself to be the Shi'ite's hidden Mahdi. After declaring himself the Mahdi, he moved on to call himself Nuqtiyiula and declared that the Quran and Muslim Shari'a were now abrogated. Shi'a and Sunni scholars condemned him and Bab faced a series of imprisonment, trials, and indignities before being shot dead by a firing squad in 1850.
"Bahaullah": The self-proclaimed successor to the Bab, and another liar/false claimant to prophecy was Mizra Hussein Ali Nuri. In 1863 Hussein Ali, a prominent member of the Babi group, declared himself to be the person whom God will make manifest, whom the Bab had foretold. He also took the name Bahaullah (Glory of God) and formed a new religion, the Bahai faith. Bahaullah was banished from Persia and was eventually imprisoned in Akka-Palestine. There he wrote his main work, his Kitab-ul-Aqdas (Most Holy Book), and developed the doctrine of the Bahai faith into a comprehensive teaching.
Elijah Muhammad: Elijah Muhammad, succeeding Wallace Dodd Fard who claimed to be Allah, was another in the line of False Prophets. He founded the convoluted belief system based on ideas extracted from everything from Christanity to Masonry to Islam in Detroit, Michigan in the 1930s. He referred to it as the "Nation of Islam".
11.** Kareem Agha Khan**: In the early 1970s, another false-claimant to prophecy appeared within the Ismaili sect of Shi'ism, who proclaims himself to be a manifestation of God on Earth and a spokesman for Allah.
Rashid Khalifa: Then we have another False Prophet, Rashid Khalifa, who came from Egypt, and claimed there to be an intricate numerical pattern to the Qur'an revolving around the number 19 in 1974. Because of this, he claimed to be a Messenger of God, alongside Prophets Ibraheem (Abraham) and Muhammad, and founded the group called "United Submitters International", rejecting the hadeeths of the Prophet, and denounced ayats 9:128-129 of the Qur'an. For many years he was the Imam at the Tuscon Mosque in Arizona, where he was later stabbed to death in 1990.
Al Mizra Abbas: Another liar, Al-Mizra Abbas, in 1233 AH/1818 CE, appeared in Tehran, Iran and died in Palestine.
Shabbatai Zevi: Shabbatai Zevi was one of the False Prophets who appeared during a desperate period of Ashkenazi Jewish history in the 16th and 17th centuries, promising to lead his compatriots out of tzuresdike golus (painful exile) to dwell with the Lord in Eretz Yisroel (the land of Israel). It neither turned out as prophesised, nor did the high hopes of the Jewish colonies in Brazil.
Saleh son of Tarif Burghwati: Saleh claimed prophethood and Mahdihood in 125 AH. After ruling over his people for 47 years, in 174 AH he abdicated the throne in favour of his son.
Abu Mansoor 'Eessa: Abu Mansoor 'Eessa claimed prophethood and Mahdihood in 341 AH and ruled over his people for 28 years.
Al-Harith son of Sa'id: Al-Harith son of Said claimed prophethood during the reign of the Umayyad caliph, Abd al-Malik son of Marwan. A number of royal soldiers were suspected of supporting him. He was executed in 698-699 CE.
Mizra Ghulam Ahmad: Mizra Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian is a British-engineered false Prophet who appeared in India to quell resistance against the British colonialists. He claimed to be the Messiah as the similitude of Prophet 'Eessa, the Mahdi, a Prophet, a Messenger, and the second advent of Prophet Muhammad simultaneously. He invited his fiercest oppenent, Molvi Sanaullah Amratsari, to a prayer duel. He advertised his supplication to Allah pleading Him to annihilate the liar amongst the two in the lifetime of the truthful one, by Cholera or by Plague. He considered them to be the sign of Divine Anger and Punishment. Mirza subsequently died of cholera a year later.
Muhammad son of Sa'id: Muhammad son of Sa’id is considered as one of the four infamous forgers of hadith. He distorted the hadith: "I am the seal of prophets and there is no prophet after me" by adding: "unless Allah wills {otherwise}". He is reported to have drawn his own conclusions from this addition and claimed prophethood for himself. He was executed on the orders of Abbasid caliph, Abu Jafar al-Mansoor.
Mohammed Ahmad: who declared himself the Mahdi in 1881, defeated the Ottoman Egyptian authority, and founded a short-lived empire in Sudan.
Jasmin?: A more recent individual who has appeared, and could potentially be a False Claimant to Prophecy is Jasmin. He appeared in 1998 in Bosnia, claiming the War of Bosnia and Herzegovina was the Battle of Armageddon, and claims that he is the Messiah, tasked by God to introduce the human community into the "golden age", and claims that his destiny has been described under the symbol and notion of a lamb.
Dr. Dwight York: Another fairly recent false claimant to prophecy was Dr. York. In the late 1960s York, started calling himself "Amunnnubi Rooakhptah," and founded various quasi-Muslim black-nationalist movements (among these was the Ansaarullah Community) based on something called the "Science of Nuwaubu". In the 1990s, he changed his community from worshipping Allah to worshipping pagan idols. Soon thereafter, he claimed to receive divine revelation, forming his own cult of Nuwaubians, following, what they call, "The Holy Tablets", with beliefs, based on pantheism, with an anthropomorphic view of Allah. In 2002, he was arrested and charged with child molestation. In 2004, he was convicted, and sentenced to 135 years in prison.
Riyaz Ahmad Gohar Shahi: Another claimant to Mahdihood and prophecy, is Gohar Shahi. He was born in 1941 in the Indian sub-continent. He had a traditional Sufi upbringing, and at age 34 he went on a 3 year spiritual retreat (which he says to have been under the guidance of a "divine spirit") into the mountains of Sehwan Sharif. Afterwards, he returned (claiming it to have been commanded by God), and started to preach his message of "Remembrance and Love of God", disregarding religion and its practices, also claiming that his image is implanted on the moon, gaining a significant number of followers. The Ulema have since issued various fatwas against him.
Joseph Smith Jr.:was the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, also known as Mormonism, and an important religious and political figure during the 1830s and 1840s in the United States. He claimed to have seen a vision of Jesus and the Father and later made contact with a Angel called Moroni. He was later assassinated by a anti-mormon mob.
Sathya Sai Baba: born Sathyanarayana Raju on November 23, 1926 with the family name of "Ratnakaram", is a controversial South Indian guru, described by his followers as a God-man and miracle worker. He claimed to be the re-incarnation of a Indian Sufi saint Sai Baba. The Sathya Sai Organization reports an estimated 1,200 Sathya Sai Baba Centers in 114 countries worldwide. He is still alive.
Jim Jones: was the founder of the Peoples Temple, which is best known for the November 18, 1978 death of over 900 Temple members in Jonestown, Guyana along with the deaths of nine other people at a nearby airstrip in Georgetown. He claimed to have been a God re-incarnate. He shot himself in the head after poisoning his followers and killing a visiting congressman.
Rael: leader of the Raelian Movement (born 30 September 1946); Rael took on his mission as Messiah in 1973 after a claimed meeting with an extraterrestrial being.
Nirmala Srivastava: guru and goddess of Sahaja Yoga, has proclaimed herself to be the Comforter promised by Jesus ie the incarnation of the Holy Ghost (Adi Shakti).
L. Ron Hubbard March 13, 1911 – January 24, 1986) was an American writer of science fiction, who also devised a self-help system called Dianetics, which was first published in 1950. He founded the religion of Scientology.
NOT ALL OF THE CLAIMANTS claim to be Messengers and Messiahs. SOME CLAIM TO BE GOD HIMSELF.
the Prophet pbuh said, each of the 30 Dajjals will claim to be Messengers of Allah.
and on a final note Allah swt knows the best.
Re: Belief in Mahdi And Ahadith (Split-Ahmediyya Thread)
^^Could you kindly give a references of your above post.....I mean does Ummah agrees on above People you mentioned or is it just some people who claimed something and you wrote their name?
Please give reference how did you come up with aobe mentioned name and give reference whether Ummah is united in declaring above as false Prophets?
Re: Belief in Mahdi And Ahadith (Split-Ahmediyya Thread)
Just for ur info. Muslim Ummah declare all of the above and their followers as Kafir... no dispute in that...
Re: Belief in Mahdi And Ahadith (Split-Ahmediyya Thread)
I am not denying anything Hanibal...I am just saying please provide references?
^^Could you kindly give a references of your above post.....I mean does Ummah agrees on above People you mentioned or is it just some people who claimed something and you wrote their name?
Please give reference how did you come up with aobe mentioned name and give reference whether Ummah is united in declaring above as false Prophets?
The names that I have listed are those I've personally gathered, as an example of just a ''few'' of those who've claimed Prophethood and Divinity.
It is agreed upon that anyone who makes a claim to Prophethood after the Messenger of Allah swt, Prophet Muhammad pbuh, is a dajjal, one of the 30 lesser dajjals.
Moreover , the Ulema have also agreed upon Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Rashid Khalifah, Bab, Bahaullah as dajjals. Dajjal only means Liar and Imposter, if someone claims to be Allah, or his Messenger then they would take the title Dajjal.
I hope that answers your question.
Re: Belief in Mahdi And Ahadith (Split-Ahmediyya Thread)
^^It doesnt but I get the context of your post....why didint you simply add the name of Hadhrat Mirza sb (A.S) in the list as you were supposed to. I mean why left one out haan?
I was only wondering whether there has only been 30 people of Holy Prophet SAW who claimed prophethood? only 30?....may be i need to read more on Dajjal.
Re: Belief in Mahdi And Ahadith (Split-Ahmediyya Thread)
He is on number 18 in that list in case you missed and you are most welcomed to add more to that list.
the ones I noted were famous false prophets throughout history, however there are probably more that I don't know about ...
the ones written aren't agreed upon by the ummah, in fact many of them are not even known by the ummah... I believe it's just the my personal opinion after some good research.
He is on number 18 in that list in case you missed and you are most welcomed to add more to that list.
the ones I noted were famous false prophets throughout history, however there are probably more that I don't know about ...
the ones written aren't agreed upon by the ummah, in fact many of them are not even known by the ummah... I believe it's just the my personal opinion after some good research.
Now this is what I call a research. Very well done brother.
d.tox..ed and other Ahmadis should learn from you how to correctly research, I learned more from your post... thank you for great work.
I especially like and agree 100% with the the following:
- Mizra Ghulam Ahmad: Mizra Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian is a British-engineered false Prophet who appeared in India to quell resistance against the British colonialists. He claimed to be the Messiah as the similitude of Prophet 'Eessa, the Mahdi, a Prophet, a Messenger, and the second advent of Prophet Muhammad simultaneously. He invited his fiercest oppenent, Molvi Sanaullah Amratsari, to a prayer duel. He advertised his supplication to Allah pleading Him to annihilate the liar amongst the two in the lifetime of the truthful one, by Cholera or by Plague. He considered them to be the sign of Divine Anger and Punishment. Mirza subsequently died of cholera a year later.
RC