I dont think there’s anything wrong with lovely things like holding hands or a quick kiss…
I do agree that there is a time and place.. at your local desi green-grocers between picking the purlpliest bengan is not it!
I once saw a local couple holding hands.. and walking - I thought it was really sweet.. but when they started french kissing and fondling - then it was like eewwww (especially since they lived 2 mins away from where they were pashing)
Someone said - what if the kids see? SO WHAT IF THE KIDS SEE? Kids see a helluva lot of things they shouldnt.. like abusive parents, domestic violence, drink & drugs.. it would actually be very healthy for them to see 2 people showing each other their emotions. I dont think there’s anything wrong with it.
Kiss leads to call for crackdown in Iran:
TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) – Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Sunday called on police to crack down on immoral behavior in public after a storm of protest over a kiss at a film awards ceremony.
I agree with Pyari C and Faisal. So, I won't repeat that. As for Iran, well, Wadi , I went to Iran on a study tour and I saw there couples(married) holding hands and that didn't look odd or awkward at all.
I might be wrong or this might be offtopic but I found that women despite donning huge black chadors or else the black coat and scarf donot feel repressed at all.
I mean in PAkistan I don't know why we feel so bad or freak out. In my limited experience, I have found that no matter we Pakistanis aren't that extremists, we donot observe hijab strictly, our society isn't sagragated to that extent , yet we are very conservative. No, infact let me say narrowminded. I donot think there is anything wrong in showing affection. In my view there is a difference in being affectionate and passionate.
It surprises me to see people giving rational explanations that kissing and hugging i.e. PDA is OK, when it is NOT OK seen from an islamic point of view ?!
As far as holding hands are concerned some proof/fatwa of it beeing legite should be brought forth, rather than saying it didnt look awkward and this and that.
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It surprises me to see people giving rational explanations that kissing and hugging i.e. PDA is OK, when it is NOT OK seen from an islamic point of view ?!
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Is it a question or a statement?
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As far as holding hands are concerned some proof/fatwa of it beeing legite should be brought forth, rather than saying it didnt look awkward and this and that.
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My dear sir, if you say its not, then the onus is on you to provide evidence that is it is not. Whatever your own personal opinions may be, thats fine. The original poster asked for personal opinion, but if you are trying to present a religious argument, please be so kind as to provide some evidence to back up your argument instead of asking the other person the same. Thank you.
Or you can just say that you don't know any religious ruling in this regard, and want someone else to help you in this matter. :)
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My dear sir, if you say its not, then the onus is on **you* to provide evidence that is it is not. Whatever your own personal opinions may be, thats fine. The original poster asked for personal opinion, but if you are trying to present a religious argument, please be so kind as to provide some evidence to back up your argument instead of asking the other person the same. Thank you.
Or you can just say that you don't know any religious ruling in this regard, and want someone else to help you in this matter. :)
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Faisal, right on the money! If I wanted a religious ruling this message would've been posted in Religion.
The discussion here is about relations between spouses not you and some hoochie down the street. There have been plenty of instances where we in the west have seen public displays of affection, however I wanted to gauge the Pakistani reaction and preferably would you see yourself in that situtation?
I wouldn't mind holding hands or a peck or two depending on the company. I mean if its all of my friends or folks in their 20s, then its fine, but something like a Katme-Quran with the elderly relatives, then a definate no. I know I'm exaggerating, but I wanted to make sure the context is not lost.
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I wouldn't mind holding hands or a peck or two depending on the company. I mean if its all of my friends or folks in their 20s, then its fine
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Personally I have witnessed that most desis avoid public displays of affection infront of people they know (family, friends etc). Haan, if they are in a place where no one knows them, then yes, holding hands etc goes on. Something to do with inherent inhibitions, it would seem. :)
Gora, kaala, peela, neelas are free from such niceties and will do anything, anywhere. As they say, to each his own.
But other than that I Think Cat-Woman is right !!!!!!
and yaar why sould we do it in public is there any thing to prove that we love each other too much. I think it is something very personal and it should remain personal !!!!!!
As for Faisal, They can do whatever they like in their rooms. Surprisingly over here its the Indians who slobber over each other in public. Goras and kalas are moderate compared to them and even complain about the Indian students’ conduct.
I’m all FOR affection in public provided that the couple is comfortable in showing this affection without any personal inhibitions. I think it’s very cute and endearing.
They can do whatever they like in their rooms. Surprisingly over here its the Indians who slobber over each other in public. Goras and kalas are moderate compared to them and even complain about the Indian students’ conduct.
