Beheadings by Muslims for Muslims - Muslims in the West must take firmer stand

Murder of Daniel Pearl, as a Jew, in the name of Islam was one of the most atrocious acts by the Muslims who claim, and continue to claim, that Quran forbids the murder of innocents. Danial Pearl was no more innocent then the many other innocents, both Muslims and non-Muslims, killed by Islamo-facists since then either in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Iraq. A very seriously damaging chapter in the history of Islam has been opened by the Islamo-facists who claim to stand up for me and my faith violating the most fundamental laws of their own God against the killing/harming of innocents.

These Islamo-facists must be faced and the moral majority must end it’s silence to their acts. The leaders of the Islamic faith must pass, as their responsibility, the fatwas against those committing these most abhorant and barbaric acts against not just the individual innocents but, by such, against the whole of humanity, as many learned Muslims pointo to such as stated in the “Book of Allah”.

The ire of the masses resulting from various multitude of issues hurting the Muslim ummah must not, and can not, transcend Allah’s commandment to safeguard the innocents for to do such only invites Allah’s ire upon his own believers.

There are many amongst us who see and understand the clear violations of Quranic injunctions and understand that the means do not justify the end. The issues facing us require actions that are not, ultimately, damaging to Muslims and go against Islam. These true “leaders” of Muslims must continue their Jihad against the Osamites and other Islamo-fascists… the true “unbelievers” within the fold of Islam and work to cast them out from amongst us like cancer for they are eating us from inside out.

The response to the Muslim terrorists must come from “within” for no external pressure will find a solution to this rotting and debilitating condition that is settling on the Muslim body.

As the countless American-Muslims who are trying to apply the cure, Danial Pearl Foundation must also continue to build bridges between the Muslims and the Jews. Furthermore, Daniel Pearl Foundation must work with their American-Muslim counterparts to pressure the U.S. government to recognize the role the American-Muslims can play in the fight against terrorism and help promote those with moderating views and voices of the “true” Muslims like Imam Hamza who recently made national news for he is but one voice of Islam that the U.S. government can not do without.

The salvation of future Danial Pearls lie in helping raise the true voices of Islam and not in rolling armies across the Muslim landscapes which, when can not be faced head on, result in the only outlet in the hands of the desparates, and fanatics, that of taking revenge against the Daniel Pearls of the world who are personified as the West or those “who are not with us”.

A Muslim in Texas;

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How to Stop Barbarous Public Murders

Letters to the Editor – THE WALL STREET JOURNAL – October 8, 2004

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We read with great admiration the article of Amir Taheri ( " ‘Exhibition Killing,’ " editorial page, Sept. 30), who courageously criticizes Muslim leaders for the disingenuous way they denounce the exhibition killings in Iraq. Their condemnation is based on political expediency, not morality.
It would be a mistake to remain passive before such barbarism. As parents who have suffered deep pain at the loss of a son to this form of terrorism, we believe there are a number of concrete actions people of conscience can take to help minimize, if not eradicate, exhibition killings.

First, we must urge the media, especially the Arab media, to exercise responsible judgment on whether and how they broadcast and publish terrorist-produced imagery and messages. Any amplification of their voice empowers terrorists with an illusion of achievement and whets their appetite for more cruelty.

Second, we must urge leaders of the international community to declare all forms of exhibition killings – the murder of an innocent person for the purpose of broadcasting grievances – a crime against humanity, with all the legal and moral ramifications that this entails.

Third, we should implore religious leaders of all denominations to proclaim these crimes a capital sin, or heresy, punishable by religion’s harshest instruments – excommunication, hellfire and damnation. In particular, we should call upon Muslim clerics in the West to use the Islamic instruments of Fatwa, Apostasy, Takfir and Fasad (corruption) to excommunicate and exorcise both the perpetrators of exhibition killing and the clerics who legitimize it.

For example, there are dozens of religious leaders in the West who command the credentials to officially proclaim al-Zarqawi an apostate, namely, one who falsifies the roots of Islam. Their reluctance to do so encourages al-Zarqawi’s followers and sympathizers to confuse his logic of killing with the logic of Islam.

Exhibition killings threaten the fabric of civilized society; it requires all our efforts to see this hideous practice eradicated.

Judea and Ruth Pearl
Los Angeles

( The writers are the parents of Daniel Pearl, a Wall Street Journal reporter who was murdered in Pakistan in 2002. They head the Daniel Pearl Foundation www.danielpearl.org.)

Does the majority really think he was just a journalist? I considered him as a CIA Agent....any one agrees?!

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Does the majority really think he was just a journalist? I considered him as a CIA Agent....any one agrees?!
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Sure sure. And Jews beheaded him and made it look like a murder.

Actually, he beheaded himself and used computer graphics to fool others.

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*Originally posted by Talwar: *

Sure sure. And Jews beheaded him and made it look like a murder.

Actually, he beheaded himself and used computer graphics to fool others.
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You've been there?!

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You've been there?!
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No. I'm the Gupistan representative of the evil Hanood-o-Yahood alliance and one of the first things that we are taught is the technique of self beheading and how to defame innocent Muslim jihadis. We also have secret codes that allow us to control the minds of jihadis to force them to kill innocents. The idea is to malign innocent jihadi qaatils.

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Does the majority really think he was just a journalist? I considered him as a CIA Agent....any one agrees?!
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lol...you are one hell of a conspiracy theorist. after every atrocity committed by muslims, you magically have some kafirs to point the finger at. you don't see anything fishy about that?

overcoming denial is the first step

you've already used your 70 excuses, now try facing reality.

Yeah so he was beheaded my a Muslim. He was collateral damage. Deal with it.

You want to dish it out then learn to take it too.

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Yeah so he was beheaded my a Muslim. He was collateral damage. Deal with it.

You want to dish it out then learn to take it too.
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Who's "you"? Do you mean America or Jews - Who exactly?

Taking a guy, tying him up and cutting off his head like namard heejras is collateral damage? Those wusses did not even have the auqaat to fight man to man.

Where do you live BTW?

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Does the majority really think he was just a journalist? I considered him as a CIA Agent....any one agrees?!
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Thanks for your reactionary response. Whether he was a CIA agent or RAW agent is not the issue here. The issue is what Islam allows or does not allow.

Since you seem to have all the answers, I would like to know if you think Daniel Pearl's beheading or kidnapping was justified according to Islamic law.

Is it any surprise that Westerners accuse Muslims of secretly supporting terrorism when we find it so hard to condemn terrorists acts like these?

I mean whoever is bitching about Muslims not “doing something” about these beheadings. What do they want us to do? Fly to Iraq and talk to the terrorists one on one? That’s what the US Army and US Intelligence is supposedly doing right? :hehe:

Oh I see, beheading is wussy yet you find it very manly to drop bombs from B-52’s and stealth bombers on innocent villages and their weddings. Jeetay raho!

Bottom line, war is a two way street. Maybe they should have thought about consequences like this before rolling their sleeves and jumping in.

but it doesn't justify the beheadings

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Yeah so he was beheaded my a Muslim. He was collateral damage. Deal with it.

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Regardless of the atrocities we are dealt with, we have a bound by laws of Islam and must react within them. We claim to follow the sunnah of the Prophet (sws). By stating your comment, you are putting your views and the "collateral damage" above and beyond what the Prophet (sws) dictated must not happen during armed conflict. There is a very black and white divide in facing off with a armed opponent and that who is not armed and a direct combatant.

I will accpet Ali_R's comment that he was a CIA spy. Does that mean that he had to be faced by vigilanties? Was his act as a secret agent proved? Must he not be judged by a court of law?

If this is the direction we have to go to decide for ourselves over and above the laws dictated to us in the Quran and the Sunnah then the Quran and the Sunnah must be thrown aside for they hold no value other then to dupe others that we follow a system of belief.

Bigotry was the downfall of the Jews. How better are we, the Muslims, then the Jews if we claim to follow something and act not likewise? Is there, then, any difference between the Jews and the Muslims if we have to wear the same shroud?

Jannu, what you see today preached by the extremist pro-Taliban and Osama mullahs is not real Islam, but a reactionary nihilistic political version that preaches that the ends justify the means. Quran and Sunnah be damned (nauzubillah).

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lol...you are one hell of a conspiracy theorist. after every atrocity committed by muslims, you magically have some kafirs to point the finger at. you don't see anything fishy about that?

overcoming denial is the first step

you've already used your 70 excuses, now try facing reality.
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Who did blamed a jew a christian or a hindu to cut off daniels head?!?

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*Originally posted by Talwar: *

Who's "you"? Do you mean America or Jews - Who exactly?

Taking a guy, tying him up and cutting off his head like namard heejras is collateral damage? Those wusses did not even have the auqaat to fight man to man.

Where do you live BTW?
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I'm hiding at Tora Bora, I claimed him being a CIA Agent not JEWS HINDUS CHRISTIANS for beheading him.

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*Originally posted by Sadiqaan: *
Jannu, what you see today preached by the extremist pro-Taliban and Osama mullahs is not real Islam, but a reactionary nihilistic political version that preaches that the ends justify the means. Quran and Sunnah be damned (nauzubillah).
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Prophets come with newer revelations. Some new lessons override the previous ones. The Osamites seem to be very very dedicated "Muslims" and following what can be described as fundamental truths of their belief. The original version of Islam forbade killing of innocents. This niche group has created a very specific deviations from the original religion or rather the origianal forms of what we understand to be Sunni and Shia madhabs. The fundamentals of each form of faith do not change unless th whole new form of belief comes into being.

It would be interesting to see/read the Osamite Quran and see what other "original" tenets have been transformed for their system of belief. So, on this note, is their last prophet Osama? Is he their rasul who's come with a new message from his creator? Will there be a book of his sunnahs that the Osamites will follow along with their holy book... Quran, is what they may call it?

After Hazrat Agha Khan, within the Muslim community at-large, Hazrat Osama is the latest prophet to grace us. Laa ilaha il-lal-lah Osama rasul-ul-lah may be their statement to establish their faith?

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but it doesn't justify the beheadings
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Don't tow the West's line. No one is justifying them. I am just responding to absurd and unfounded calls to Muslims all over the world to "apologize" for the actions of a few maniacs in Iraq. Don't hold your breath.

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*Originally posted by jannu: *

Prophets come with newer revelations. Some new lessons override the previous ones. The Osamites seem to be very very dedicated "Muslims" and following what can be described as fundamental truths of their belief. The original version of Islam forbade killing of innocents. This niche group has created a very specific deviations from the original religion or rather the origianal forms of what we understand to be Sunni and Shia madhabs. The fundamentals of each form of faith do not change unless th whole new form of belief comes into being.

It would be interesting to see/read the Osamite Quran and see what other "original" tenets have been transformed for their system of belief. So, on this note, is their last prophet Osama? Is he their rasul who's come with a new message from his creator? Will there be a book of his sunnahs that the Osamites will follow along with their holy book... Quran, is what they may call it?

After Hazrat Agha Khan, within the Muslim community at-large, Hazrat Osama is the latest prophet to grace us. Laa ilaha il-lal-lah Osama rasul-ul-lah may be their statement to establish their faith?
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I think this says it all!
Good words from a good man....keep the good work upright!

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Don't tow the West's line. No one is justifying them. I am just responding to absurd and unfounded calls to Muslims all over the world to "apologize" for the actions of a few maniacs in Iraq. Don't hold your breath.
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The West's line is that Islam, as a faith, teaches to murder non-Muslims where ever they are found. Numerous places in the Quran are quoted by those who are judging what we are, what we believe in and how we are going about to spread Islam. When innocents are murdered with the calls of "Allah-O-Akbar" and "laa ilaaha ill-lallah Mohammad-uyr-rasool allah" then all arguements are mute. The murders and beheadings take place under the call of Islam by Muslims.

Muslims the world over, as Muslims.... people of Islamic faith, are not enraged by the use of religion in killing of the Muslims. When the Muslims, as a whole, are not revulsed at the murder of innocents by the Muslims who put out calls of the religion when taking the lives then what is to be deduced?

Muslims, for this very reason, have to stand up and pass fatwas against those doing the killings in the name of Islam. Such was also claimed by a Muslim terrorist group out of England.