Beating up ur wife :)

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I've already said sorry in true sense but i think Ujji is only in debating mood .... he/she should read the all posts before posting any other post ......

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I am sure Sannan did not mean too be obtuse or insensitive... he did apologise and thats okay he need not leave on a mistake alone.

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" Beating Wife, Child or any person in your sensible life is not a favorable way to make a happening solve or understandable"

But I have a question, What should be done if anything like this happens? Or anything more controversial happens. Talaq or Khula? I know there are things called Understanding and Compromise but it some thing happen more than that, then whats the solution for it regarding Islamic values?

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I don't pretend to know a whole lot about the Quran, which is exactly why I posted my question to ask about it in the first place. Anyway, the name of the surah is An-Nisa (The women) and the rest I will copy paste here:

4:34 (Asad) MEN SHALL take full care of women with the bounties which God has bestowed more abundantly on the former than on the latter, [42] and with what they may spend out of their possessions. And the right*eous women are the truly devout ones, who guard the intimacy which God has [ordained to be] guar ded. [43] And as for those women whose ill-will [44] you have reason to fear, admonish them [first]; then leave them alone in bed; then beat them; [45] and if thereupon they pay you heed, do not seek to harm them. Behold, God is indeed most high, great!

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I think only some islamic scholar can give the answer of this type of questions bcoz i don't think any one here have a great knowledge of Islam .....

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^ I agree.

I know one Scholar on GS but he wont take a majority view and many will hate him for it... but still he will speak the best...

Unfortunately he is offline.

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yeah i have read it, and i have heard about it before as well but could not find it in the Quran so if any of you could pls give me the surah and ayah number, that would be great.

Deeba, I have posted the surah translation and have highlighted the part where the word 'beat' is used.

Sannan, before making assumptions about my intentions or whether or not i have read all the posts, u might want to read my posts too.

Anyway, lets ignore the beating part since thats bothering ppl. I don't even think thats important because the essence of my question is still there. Lets even pretend a husband is not even allowed to tap his wife with a miswak as a symbolic act of punishing her. So while ignoring the issue of physical punishment, everyone still agrees the Quran has instructed men to admonish their wives, and then leave their bed if they fear her ill will right? So where is the part about women being instructed to do the same if they fear their husband's ill will?

Or lets make this even simpler. A wife or the 'weaker' sex has to face consequences for her ill will and therefore must be held accountable. What consequences does a husband, the 'stronger' sex, have to face for his ill will?

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KYAAA?? Allah male hai? Yeh kis ne kaha?

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you better kill her.

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^ :eek: I thought i was the only one who would say that… :rotfl:

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true..best answer..

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i don't know in which sense u asked? we use the word HE 4 Him.

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i agree 2 gypsi that u shud consult 2 some alim coz no 1 here havin enough knowledge 2 setisfied u.

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The Qur'an tells men that they can only hit their wife if she has been very bad on a regular basis, but only once to give her a "waking up call" ... such as she is doing something and he doesn't like it then he must only tell, and keep on telling her until she listens. Only when he is about to divorce he may resort to only "once" a hit to make her realise that she is at the end of the line.

On the other hand, the Qur'an puts no limit on the beating of a husband by his wife so even if he does something wrong once if she hits him - the Qur'an has not forbidden this. If she hits him regardless of whether he has been slightly naughty or very bad it does not matter.

The Qur'an has the account of "striking the wife" to protect the woman. Because men were beating their wives for no reason and today the same applies. However, if they understood the Qur'an it prevents men from beating until very certain things happen. The Qur'an says if she has been "unchaste" - to most people that means sleeping with another guy. Come on, the Qur'an is saying the only time it is allowed is when "she sleeps with another guy" - most people think about 'killing' for that sort of thing, but the Qur'an does not allow it.

My wife hits me all the time and she says that there is nothing in the Qur'an about it ... and I take the beats like a good husband I guess ... LOL ...

More seriously, the wife is actually required to respect her husband as he to her. 'Beating' is not respectful. Also, the wisdom in the silence of women not being told about their limits for hitting men is because they will probably break them and secondly most men can take the beats from their wife and still smile the next day.

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lol big up to @hareem01:

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Let me tell you something about Quran. If we ve some ayahh or Surrah in Quran there is almost an incident behind those Ayaah. So we can get it through Hadith or Aalims.

Allah says in Quran, Always says Inn Shah Allah in one of Ayaah. Being a Muslims having faith on Allah we should say Inn Sha Allah and there was a complete incident behind that Ayaah that once our Nabi Karim (peace be upon him) says that i'll give the answer tomorrow but forgot to say Inn Sha Allah so there were no Wahi on them I think it happens for 2 or 3 days so in the end that Ayah came ... sorry i forgot the aayah but that while incident can't be define in Quran but Hazoor (peace be upon him) knows about it that why it occur.

So my friend this is bcoz you have to read Tafseer where you can find the details .... But if you really want to criticize it then you are free to do and no one can satisfy you .........
Me off from the topic.

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the people normally mistranslate the word its not beating its hitting.

that too is done at the last resort if she breaks shariah rules (not just randomly). it shouldnt be on the face shouldnt leave a mark and is done.. with a dried maswak.. All you do is tap implying enough is enough.

Dr Zakir explains it in light of quran and hadith.

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well if the wife is not happy with the marrige and there are some solid reasons behind it; she can go to a qazi or court and get the marrige annuled.

p.s neighter of the sex is allowed to "beat" the other..

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Ashoka I really appreciate your efforts to clear the confusion but lets c Ujji will satisfied or not .......