so can we seriously discuss this ?
Is there any hadiths or ayats forbiding wackin the monkey, singing to the goat, beatin the the purple headed mushroom man ? (masturbation)
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To do in life is to appreciate it. To live life is to lose it. I dont know what I am saying so I will stop saying it.
so I see no one has the guts to talk about this ... wat a bunch of babies!
To do in life is to appreciate it. To live life is to lose it. I dont know what I am saying so I will stop saying it.
As far as Im concerned there is no monkey I can whack and no goat I can sing to (DUHHHH!!!) but we can talk about masturbation.
Masturbation is classified as self-pleasure or orgasmic state created by the self stimulation (As if you guys don't know!!!). There are different theories about that, some says that its a healthy practice and some goes against it.
According to my limited knowledge it is not approved by any hadith, infact one of our Islamic tutors disapproved it strongly. But no Resources with me. Anyone else??
--I know I'll be a King One day, When Im Dead, They Gonna take me on their shoulders, Just like a King--
Only opinion I'm aware of is, that if your sex urge is at a peak where you could rape someone or committ adultery/fornication then its okay to masturbate, but even in this case scholars recommend to 'fast' (roza) as this is a better way to help your imaan/taqwa level.
But making it a 'normal practice' is considered like forbidden/disliked.
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
THIS SHOULD CURE YOUR HUNGER
Masturbation in Islam
Masturbation (for both men and women) is haraam (forbidden) in Islam based on the following evidence:
First from the Qur'aan:
Imam Shafi'i stated that masturbation is forbidden based on the following verses from the Qur'aan (interpretation of the meaning):
"And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts, from illegal sexual acts). Except from their wives or (the captives and slaves) that their right hands possess, - for them, they are free from blame. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors." 23.5-7 Here the verses are clear in forbidding all illegal sexual acts (including masturbation) except for the wives or that their right hand possess. And whoever seeks beyond that is the transgressor.
"And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His bounty." 24.33. This verse also clearly orders whoever does not have the financial means to marry to keep himself chaste and be patient in facing temptations (including masturbation) until Allah enriches them of His bounty.
Secondly, from the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him):
Abdullaah ibn Mas'ood said, "We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatsoever. So Allah's Messenger said, "O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power." Bukhari:5066. The hadeeth orders men who are not able to marry to fast despite the hardship encountered in doing so, and not to masturbate despite the ease with which it can be done.
There are additional evidences that can be cited to support this ruling on masturbation, but due to the limited space we will not go through them here. Allah knows what is best and most correct.
As for curing the habit of masturbation, we recommend the following suggestions:
1) The motive to seek a cure for this problem should be solely following Allah's orders and fearing His punishment.
2) A permanent and quick cure from this problem lies in marriage as soon as the person is able, as shown in the Prophet's hadeeth.
3) Keeping oneself busy with what is good for this world and the hereafter is essential in breaking this habit before it becomes second nature after which it is very difficult to rid oneself of it.
4) Lowering the gaze (from looking at forbidden things such as pictures, movies etc.) will help suppress the desire before it leads one to commit the haraam (forbidden). Allah orders men and women to lower their gaze as shown in the following two verses and in the Prophet's hadeeth (interpretations of the meanings):
"Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is all-aware of what they do. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.)... " 24.30-31
Allah's messenger said: "Do not follow a casual (unintentional) look (at forbidden things) with another look." Al-Tirmidhi 2777. This is a general instruction by the Prophet to abstain from all that may sexually excite a person because it might lead him/her to commit the haraam (forbidden).
5) Using one's available leisure time in worshipping Allah and increasing religious knowledge.
6) Being cautious not to develop any of the medical symptoms that may result from masturbation such as weak eyesight, weak nervous system, and/or back pain. More importantly, feeling of guilt and anxiety that can be complicated by missing obligatory prayers because of the need to shower (ghusl) after every incidence of masturbation.
7) Avoiding the illusion that some youth have that masturbation is permissible because it prevents them from committing illegal sexual acts such as fornication or even homosexuality.
8) Strengthening one's willpower and avoiding spending time alone as recommended by the Prophet when he said "Do not spend the night alone" Ahmad 6919.
9) Following the Prophet's aforementioned hadeeth and fast when possible because fasting will temper one's sexual desire and keep it under control. However, one should not overreact and swear by Allah not to return to the act because if one does not honor one's promise, one would be facing the consequences of not living up to one's oath to Allah. Also, note that medication to diminish one's sexual desire is strictly prohibited because it might permanently affect one's sexual ability.
10) Trying to follow the Prophet's recommendation concerning the etiquette of getting ready for bed, such as reading well-known supplications, sleeping on the right side, and avoiding sleeping on the belly (the Prophet forbade sleeping on the belly).
11) Striving hard to be patient and chaste, because persistence will eventually, Allah willing, lead to attaining those qualities as second nature, as the Prophet explains in the following hadeeth: "Whoever seeks chastity Allah will make him chaste, and whoever seeks help from none but Allah, He will help him, and whoever is patient He will make it easy for him, and no one has ever been given anything better than patience." Bukhari:1469.
12) Repenting, asking forgiveness from Allah, doing good deeds, and not losing hope and feeling despair are all prerequisites to curing this problem. Note that losing hope is one of the major sins punishable by Allah.
13) Finally, Allah is the Most Merciful and He always responds to whoever calls on Him. So, asking for Allah's forgiveness will be accepted, by His will.
And Allah knows what is best and most correct
** hope this helps **
Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.
Love happens once . . .
** here is another, sorry for the copy paste but like most of us i'd rather go directly to the sources **
Masturbation is Haraam (unlawful).
This is the ruling of the four Madhaahibs viz. Maliki, Shafée, Hanafee and
one riwaayah (narration) from Imaam Hanbalee. They have drawn their
conclusions from the following proofs:
PROOFS FROM THE QURÃN
* Allah Taãla says:
'And those who guard their private parts from their wives and those
(slave-girls) which their right-hands own - so there is no blame upon them.
Then whoever seeks beyond that (which is lawful), they are the
transgressors.
The intended meaning of these Aayat is clear. Allah Taãla has praised the
believers for guarding their private parts from that which He has made
forbidden for them. Allah has permitted them to approach their wives and
slave-girls. Thereafter, these words of Allah Taãla follow: 'Whoever seeks
beyond that which is lawful are oppressors who overstep from Halaal
(permitted) towards Haraam (prohibited).
Hafiz ibn Katheer (RA) writes Imaam Shaafée (RA) and those who have agreed
with him have concluded that masturbation is Haraam from this Aayat.' He
says: 'Masturbation is excluded from these two types which Allah has made
Halaal, viz. wives and slave-girls.
This Aayat shows masturbation to be Haraam because of two reasons: Firstly,
in this Aayat Allah Taãla has given the command of chastity and, according
to the principles of Fiqh, a command (an imperative) denotes Wujoob
(incumbency, obligation). Hence to remain chaste is Waajib (compulsory) and
wherever chastity is Waajib it becomes Waajib to refrain from that which is
contrary to it, for example, adultery, fornication, and sodomy. This is due
to the fact that obligatory chastity will not materialise except by complete
refrainment from all that which is contrary to chastity.
Secondly: in this Aayat, Allah Taãla has made chastity obligatory on those
who are unable to execute the command of Nikah. Here Allah Taãla has not
determined any connection or link between marriage and chastity. Hence, this
demands that masturbation should be Haraam. And if assuming, it was
permissible, then Allah Taãla would have mentioned it at this point because
this was the place of explanation. The silence maintaned by Allah Taãla with
regard to it at a place which requires its explanation, denotes that
masturbation is Haraam.
Imaam Qurtubi (RA) has written in the Tafseer of this Aayat: 'And when Allah
Taãla has not determined any order between Nikah and chastity, then this
shows that besides these two, everything else is Haraam. However, this
Hurmat (unlawfulness) does not include slave-girls because another command
of the Qurãn makes them Mubaah (permissible), viz.
'That which the right-hands earn (i.e. slave-girls).' Hence, in this manner
an addition of slave-girl has come. Masturbation, however still remains
Haraam.
'Those who seek beyond this (i.e. wives and slave-girls) are transgressors.'
(Maãrij 31)
Under the Tafseer of this Aayat, Qaadhi Thanaullah Paani Patti writes:
'Imaam Baghawi has deduced from this Aayat that masturbation is Haraam.'
PROOFS FROM AHAADITH
* Similarly, the Fuqahaa have drawn their conclusion from a Hadith reported
by Abdullah bin Masóod (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) in Bukhari and Muslim. He reports
that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'O group of youth!
Whoever from among you can marry should do so because it keeps the gaze low
and it protects the private parts. And he who cannot marry should make it
compulsory upon himself to fast because it breaks lust.'
Nabi (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) directed the person who is incapable of
bearing the burden on Nikah towards Sawm (fasting). If assuming,
masturbation was permissible, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) would
have mentioned it at this point. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam)
however maintained silence. Hence, this indicates that masturbation is
Haraam because silence at the place of explanation gives the benefit of
restriction.
Hadhrat Anas (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'The person who performs Nikah with his hands (i.e.
masturbates) is cursed. (Tafseer Mazhari vol. 12 p. 94)
SAYINGS OF OUR PIOUS PREDECESSORS WITH REGARD TO MASTURBATION
* Saéed bin Jubayr (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'Allah Taãla will inflict a punishment on a group of
people because they played with their private parts.'
* Attaa (RA) says, 'Some people will be resurrected in such a condition that
their hands will be pregnant, I think they are those who masturbate.'
And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.
Love happens once . . .
>>Secondly: in this Aayat, Allah Taãla has made chastity obligatory on those who are unable to execute the command of Nikah. Here Allah Taãla has not determined any connection or link between marriage and chastity. Hence, this demands that masturbation should be Haraam. And if assuming, it was permissible, then Allah Taãla would have mentioned it at this point because this was the place of explanation. The silence maintaned by Allah Taãla with
regard to it at a place which requires its explanation, denotes that masturbation is Haraam.
I am having trouble in reaching from Point A to Point B in this explanation. Fact is that masturbation is not mentioned in any of these ayat; and by simple reading, they stop muslims from committing fornication or sex with women who are not their wives. To assume that it means many other things, simply because those things are not mentioned, is one approach, to which many scholars do not agree.
We can find many instances in seera and islamic history where those found committing extra-marital sex were punished (stoned to death or lashes), but I find no instance in Islamic history where any punishment was meted out to those found masturbating. If you know of any instance, feel free to share.
As a matter of fact, I read it in a book (I'll have to dig it up again) where according to one account, one of the khalifa-tur-Rahideen instructed his army, who were going on a war mission, to stay away from sex with women who are not their wives and if they have trouble containing their (sexual) urges, then they should masturbate. I am not sure about the authenticity of this account.
Medically, regardless of of what many wall-posters in Pakistan claim otherwise (bachpann ki ghaltian etc), moderate masturbation has been shown to have no long-term negative medical or psychological effects. Check any medical website and you will get the same answer. Excessive masturbation can certainly cause some problems.
However, the reason why I feel masturbation should be avoided and will cause gunah, in many cases, is because of the thoughts involved in the process.
As we know zinah is of many types.
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[li]First is physical, which we all know as illicit sex, and is the most common type. [/li][li]The next is zina of the eyes. Where you look at those areas of bodies which should not be looked at. This not only includes porno movies and magazines, but this also includes deliberately catching glances of bodyparts of women who are not appropriately attired.[/li][li]The last is the zina of mind, where you are thinking of having #1 or #2. This is also zina and is considered gunah.[/li][/list=a]
From many accounts it is clear, that those who indulge in masturbating, in most cases are indulging in #3.
It is for this reason, that many scholars have ruled that masturbation is a permitted activity between a husband and his wife. This is for several reasons. Some suggest that since it increases the love and bonding between the couple therefore it is allowed. Also, it creates a permissible method for husbands to release their sexual tension in days where the wife is menstruating or when she is not in the mood for full sexual activity.
Wallah u Alim Bil-Sawaab