Be-Hayaa, Be-sharam

[muqawwee123]

Re: Be-Hayaa, Be-sharam

@Microbian

I think she means dressing according to fashion indicates the level of education in institutes now a days.People have formed a different picture in their minds as to what an educated girl/boy should look like based on which a competition has started between the institutes.For example no one can imagine a girl in abaya going to LUMS or NCA type institues and if she is people will say Oh ye lums me parhti hy lgti to nahi.

Ok, I got it. As they say, how they carry themselves. Your attire should announce your degree, your job status and all that. I think it was a good rule to allow students only in uniform in education institutes to avoid this fashion race.

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: Be-Hayaa, Be-sharam

@Princejall

^Dont agree to what saeedin said. Its not about judging anyone, its about our culture n norms. And decent people (boy n gals both) wear decent dresses.

Um okay. You think someone in ankle high jeans is not dressed decently. What does that mean? Are you going to treat her with less respect, leer at her and start cat calling. Or will you treat her the same as you would a girl dressed in a burqa.

I guess I could live with you not deeming them decent if you still respect them all the same. You are entitled to your opinion, nobody can take that away from you.

[muqawwee123]

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@SaeedinPakistan

Um okay. You think someone in ankle high jeans is not dressed decently. What does that mean? Are you going to treat her with less respect, leer at her and start cat calling. Or will you treat her the same as you would a girl dressed in a burqa.

I guess I could live with you not deeming them decent if you still respect them all the same. You are entitled to your opinion, nobody can take that away from you.

I think its a two-way traffic… If a ba-pardah lady consider ultra-mod lady be-hayaa, then that ultra-mod also consider hijabi as backward, persecuted and conservative.

[the_kaur]

Re: Be-Hayaa, Be-sharam

Another useless part of Sub-continental cultural behaviour. The culture which cannot even produce a matchbox, nothing better should be expected from that

[muqawwee123]

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@Insaf ka tarazu

We certainly can produce a matchbox.

Have seen needles (made in china)… Thats a be-hayai in itself

[Microbian]

@Insaf ka tarazu:9844145

We certainly can produce a matchbox.

And also matchsticks for aag lagaing

[the_kaur]

Re: Be-Hayaa, Be-sharam

@Insaf ka tarazu

We certainly can produce a matchbox.

We aren’t pioneer in that, that was the point

@Microbian

And also matchsticks for aag lagaing

lagai-bhujhai is also part of our cultural existence

[SaeedinPakistan]

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@muqawwee123

I think its a two-way traffic… If a ba-pardah lady consider ultra-mod lady be-hayaa, then that ultra-mod also consider hijabi as backward, persecuted and conservative.

Well if they never talk to each other, they won’t know what the other person is all about. The easiest way to get rid of misconceptions is to talk to people you have misconceptions about. Though I would suggest staying away from controversial topics when you talk at first. Don’t start the conversation with, “Why do/don’t you wear a burqa?” That conversation is going to turn ugly fast.

[muqawwee123]

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@SaeedinPakistan

Well if they never talk to each other, they won’t know what the other person is all about. The easiest way to get rid of misconceptions is to talk to people you have misconceptions about. Though I would suggest staying away from controversial topics when you talk at first. Don’t start the conversation with, “Why do/don’t you wear a burqa?” That conversation is going to turn ugly fast.

I think judgemental thinking itself creates communication barrier. When you consider other as achhoot, you would avoid communicating with them. If you communicate, that would be disastrous (as you mentioned) because everyone would be busy proving himself right and other one wrong.

[SaeedinPakistan]

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Well then the onus fall on the liberals to make sure channels of communication stay open and conversations stay civil. Because we are the ones who claim to be accepting of everybody. We are the ones who tout the virtues of personal freedom for everybody, be it a hijabi or a fashionista. So it’s our responsibility to sell it to everybody.

[mahool]

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Appearance does play an important role… While, inner comes later…and inner is identified by having direct experience… with time…

Therefore… appearance leads to quick judgement…

Even Bano Qudsia only stressed on the appearance of women… and character of men…