BBC view: American culture of charity and giving

Nice article about the way Americans collect money for public causes. May be Pakistanis can learn something from them.

Washington diary: Culture of giving
By Matt Frei
BBC News, Washington
** It is easy for stingy foreigners, myself included, to underestimate the culture of philanthropy and fundraising in the United States. ** Soon after one of my daughters started going to a private school in Washington, I received a call from a mother of one of her classmates.

                                                	      	              There was the usual friendly, non-committal chit-chat, after which I moved swiftly to the subject in hand.       	     	                 	     	             "Yes, my daughter would      	     	            *     	     	            love     	     	            *     	     	             a play date," I said, assuming - wrongly, as it turned out - that this was the purpose of the call.       	     	            
 	     	             "We were actually looking for some help with our scholarship fund. We are still half a million dollars short of our target!"      	     	            

A lump formed in my throat, immediately followed by huge relief that the caller had clearly got the wrong parent, since we do not - unfortunately - have half a million bucks to give away.
“Any donation would be appreciated,” came the reply to my unspoken thoughts, “however small!”
** Worth of a ‘friend’ **
There was the challenge. What exactly is the price of self-esteem? Reputation? A good deed?
As my mind raced through all the possibilities of humiliation, the mother threw me a lifeline.

                                                	      	              "It's all on the web! I can call you back at the same time tomorrow!"       	     	                 	     	             Phew... no need to make excuses about misplaced credit cards and empty cheque books.      	     	            
 	     	             The web spelled it out. Donations from $1 to $500 earned you the accolade of "friend".       	     	            

Not bad. But there were six other categories, and everything over $10,000 turned you into a “millennium donor”, a stellar title which came with the embossing of your name on a plaque.
So in the school’s fundraising code, “friend” was the equivalent of “lunch” in that infamous phrase: “Let’s do lunch one of these days!”
** Concrete charity **
Once a year it is possible to witness this generosity “live” in the form of the school auction.
Hundreds of parents meet in a fancy Washington hotel, chase some surf and turf around a plate, and bid for everything from holiday homes donated by wealthy parents to paintings or pottery made by their own children.

                                                	      	              The item that took my breath away was the family handprint on a slab of wet concrete outside the school gates.       	     	                 	     	             It went for $24,000.       	     	            

The man sitting next to me helped out: “Don’t worry, Matt. Everything over value can be deducted from tax. And the value of a slab of concrete is probably $20.”
Americans give to schools, hospitals, libraries, galleries and the poor like no other country in the world.
Last year, American citizens gave more money to victims of the tsunami than their government did.
** Cornerstone of culture **
Yes, charity can be written off against tax, but it is also hard-wired into the psyche of a nation founded by pilgrims and enriched by private enterprise.
It is impossible to imagine modern America without philanthropy, because so many of the institutions funded by the state in Europe are financed by private citizens in this country.

	     	                 	     	                 	     	                 	     	                 	     	            **     	     	            I'm still giving it away - it's not as if I'm missing any meals or anything     	     	            **     	     	            
	     	                 	     	                 	     	            Ted Turner     	     	                 	     	                 	     	            
	     	                 	     	                 	     	                                                      	                 	     	                 	     	                 	     	                                 
        The Metropolitan Opera House in New York would not exist without philanthropy. Nor would the Museum of Modern Art or the New York Public Library.      	     	             In Washington, 16 of the nation's greatest museums are free because of the Smithsonian Institution.       	     	            

In 1829, James Smithson, an English scientist, left his fortune to his nephew but stipulated that if the nephew died without children (legitimate or illegitimate) “the money should go the United States of America to found at Washington an establishment for the increase and diffusion of knowledge among men”.
Thankfully, Smithson’s nephew died childless, and the seed money has been invested and supplemented to produce one of the greatest cultural foundations in the world.
Andrew Carnegie, the Scottish-born steel magnate who became the father of modern philanthropy, not only gave his name to one of the most famous concert halls in the US, as well as dozens of other theatres, he also funded thousands of public libraries all over America.
It was he who once quipped: “He who dies rich, dies disgraced.”
Others have followed suit. Bill and Melinda Gates have already spent $30bn of their money on good causes.
Every year their foundation gives more to global health causes like malaria, TB and Aids than the World Health Organization.
** Thanks a billion **
Ted Turner, the founder of CNN who sports a pencil moustache and calls the actress Jane Fonda “my favourite ex-wife”, famously gave $1bn to the UN, because his own country would not pay its dues.
“Why a billion?” I asked him. “Nice round figure!” he told me.
The money is doled out over 10 years in lots of $100m, and Mr Turner keeps on giving even though he also sustained the biggest personal loss ever in financial history.
After the Time-AOL merger and the bursting of the dot.com bubble, Ted - as he insists on being called - lost more than $6bn.
“I sure took a hit,” he said in a recent interview. “But I’m still giving it away. It’s not as if I’m missing any meals or anything.”
Philanthropy is so well established it has spawned its own academic discipline.
New York University has a department of philanthropy. There is also the Chronicle of Philanthropy.
I have even attended a philanthropy workshop in the bowels of Congress, where rich Americans learned how to give their money away and how to make sure it was spent on the right causes.
Whether it is the quest for a legacy, the desire to change the world, the determination * not * to spoil one’s children or simply the tax code, Americans - wealthy and not so wealthy - are giving their dollars away by the lorry load.
And the rest of the world has a long way to catch up.
* Matt Frei’s The Embarrassment of Riches will be broadcast on 19 May at 1100 BST (1000 GMT) on BBC Radio 4. *

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yeah, i think we can learn a lot from the western countries. Right now i am living in australia. During Tsunami Australians donated so much even though it was not in their own country. Remember they had the match in melbourne. The event was organised in such a short time. They didnt had to do it but they still did.
Yet when there was the earthquake in india/pakistan,we did play 2 matches but the boards put half of it in their own pocket:grumpy:

One thing i would really like to have in the sub continent is the value for life that people have in the west. You can be anyone, with no money, but still the police, emergency workers will try their very best to save that life. In our part of the world unless u have money or contacts, no one cares if u survive or die:(.

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What do you mean by “Pakistanis can learn something from them”? :hoonh:

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On th same note, a man can spend thousands of dollars on strippers and whores while not donating a cent to Pakistan’s earthquake relief fund.. :whistling:

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who you referring to? :hoonh:

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The American culture of giving and receiving represents America's failure to implement a social welfare state along the Western European model.

For example, an important part of American philanthropy is the millions of dollars worth of scholarships that people generously donate to.

Such scholarships are not needed in the social welfare state. The government takes care of this, through directly taxing the source (ie individuals).

Pakistan should adopt the Western European model. A culture of Charity and giving is not needed when the government takes and gives directly instead.

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Hardly a failure on America's part, the social welfare state has failed. Europe is stagnant with rampant unemployment, look at France, and very little economic growth. Look at Canada's health care system, a total failure. States in Europe have governments that account for most of the "economic activity". Socialism and Communism has died.
Charity that is forced on people is called a tax.

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If the social welfare state has failed, why is child poverty higher in the USA than in social welfare states?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/4307745.stm
and
http://www.unicef.ca/press/childpoverty/

Nothing wrong with healthy taxation. It is a neccessity for the progress of a nation.

The social welfare state accepts reduced economic strength in return for less poverty and more social services being available to its citizens.

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Social welfare states like France do nothing but encourage laziness, a false sense of entitlement, and a culture where self interest is frowned upon. The lazy have no motive for being productive because they will ride on the coat tails of the laborious. The entrepreneurial minds have no incentive for staying and being innovative. Look where France’s economy is, and where it will be. Pretty soon there won’t be anyone to support the state. What then?
Canada’s health care system may have sounded great, but look at it now. Cancer patients have to wait months for treatment, doctor’s appointments take months, doctors are leaving the country, and a growing number of people are leaving the country for healthcare. If it continues like this, where will it be in another decade?

As the BBC report points out, the US, Australia and the UK have had significant drops in child poverty. What of the wonderful European Welfare states? What will happen to them in a few more years?

Healthy taxation is exactly what put Europe where it is, and the US where it is. Taxation is not charity, hence Europe contributes little in terms of charity and plenty in terms of whining.

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Interesting that you mentioned the UK and Australia - both are social welfare states- alongside the USA. In fact, within the same paragraph you criticised Canada and praised the UK - ignoring the fact that Canada's social welfare state is modeled on the British example. The difference is between a well-run welfare state, ie that run by Britain, and a welfare state that is run by incompetents, such as France and to a lesser extent Canada.

Having to wait for medical care is bad. Having people who are unable to afford medical care altogether is worse.

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You also failed to mention that the UK and Australia have reduced their amounts spent on welfare. Which has not happened in the Europe, nor in Canada. Americans give to charity because they feel the generosity within themselves, and because the government enables people to be successful, something foreign to communism and socialism.
Waiting for medical care, for a cancer patient, is a death sentence. There is no point in gettin care when it is too late.

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We tried to run everything by GORE-Ment (government), we even brought in big wig names like Hazrat Umar (rah). Still that GORE-Ment kept on putting knife through the economy. Show-Shaw-lism (socialism drama) became the cry of our learned lot.

Nationalize every bank, those show-shaw-lists advised!

Nationalize every school, every hospital, every factory, and you will see there will be canals of honey and milk flowing through the country.

Unfortunately the show-shaw-list utipia even when colored Islamic green did not work. No system can survive on looting your citizens (those big bad rich shehri). Ultimately the nation got sick and tired and hanged the biggest show-shaw-list of all.

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your continuous crying will not make us believe Islamic system failed.

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Well of course not C1 Mod, it's failure would make you believe that it failed I would think.

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I know you would love to think, what you fail to know is history.

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Oh your right, it didn't fail the people, the people failed it. Kind of like Communism.

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"Islamic era" wasn't just about the type of economy, there are several factors which lead to decline of a power... in case of Islamic era the major factors IMO were the "kingship" nature, the greed which followed, declining faith etc.

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Islamic era was pretty much modeled on Byzantines or Farsis (Iranians). Ummayahs, Abbasis, Moors, and then Ottomans courts were no different from the eras gone by.

Europeans started moving away from that model, and evolved new systems. Failure to adapt to these newer systems, ended Ottomans.

Turk leadership blamed Mullahs and Islam as the reasons they couldn't adapt. That is why Mustafa Kamal tried to erase even the smallest shades of Mullahism form the Trukish society.

Turkish revolt against Mullahs was similar to the European efforts to move away from Papal shenanigans.

The difference is that Europeans moved away from the Pope and evolved. Turks on the other hand could not evolve their native institutions at a fast pace like Europeans.

p.s. Faith and morals are good excuses for the decline. However innovation, stability of institutions, and intellectual's romance with evolution sit at the core of progress. Arabs like their African cousins can not move away from their tribalism. So there is no hope.

Pakistanis can progress if they can avoid tribal mess.