Asalaam alikum, brothers and sisters anything about the battle will help, any thing you know…thanks alot
Meccans were lead by Abu Sufyan.
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The Battle of Uhud
The Qureshites came out from the Battle of Badr with an astonishing result which they did not expect. They were confident of their capability to annihilate the Muslims easily. For the Qureshites were more numerous and with a bigger reserve and more logistics. Yet, they suddenly found themselves losing seventy of their warriors and leaders, along with seventy captives, in a one-day battle. And above all, the resounding defeat which they received was at the hand of a group whom they used to belittle.
The Qureshites were unwilling to admit a final defeat. They lost a battle, but they believed that they would never lose the war. All they needed was to mobilize forces to which the Muslims would not be able to stand. The burning hatred in the hearts of Qureshites and their desire to wash away the shame of the defeat at Badr and their eagerness to avenge their lost leaders added to their physical superiority a tremendous psychological strength.
The Qureshites mobilized for the battle of avenge three thousand fighters compared to nine hundred and fifty fighters al the Battle of Badr. This army was financed and its logistics were secured through the gross income of the commercial caravan which was allotted to the battle of avenge. Thus, the community of Quraish, one year after the Battle of Badr, marched towards Medina to annihilate the Muslims, their religion, and their Prophet. The Meccan army arrived at the area of Ohod which is five miles away from Medina. There, the expected battle took place.
The Holy Prophet went on deploying his forces, placing them in strategic positions. He placed fifty marksmen at the slope of the Mount of Ohod, directing them to protect the back of the Muslims against the pagan cavalry (which was led by Khalid Ibn Al-Waleed). He commanded them not to leave their position whether the Muslims defeated the pagans or the pagans defeated the Muslims.
The Elements of the Islamic Defense
In this second battle of destiny for the Muslims, the Islamic defense consisted of the same three important ele- ments which played their roles at the battle of Badr:
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The ideal leadership of the Messenger and his firm- ness.
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The members of the house of the Holy Prophet and their heroism.
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An Islamic army consisting of seven hundred com- panions, the hearts of many of them were filled with faith and readiness for sacrifice.
The start of the Battle of Ohod followed the method of the beginning or the Battle or Badr. Talhah Ibn Abu Talhah ( from Banu Abdul-Dar clan ), the bearer of the banner or the pagans, challenged the Muslims, saying: “Are there any duelers?” The respondent to his call was the same respondent of the Battle of Badr. Ali came to him and when they faced each other between the two hosts, Ali swiftly dealt him a blow by his sword through which his head was split. The Holy Prophet was pleased. He exclaimed: AIlahu Akbar (God Is Great), and so did the Muslims, for the biggest hero of the pagan army had died .
Abu Saad Ibn Abu Talhah (brother of Talhah) car- ried the banner and challenged the Muslims, saying Companions of Mohammad, you allege that your dead go to Paradise and our dead go to Hell. By Al Lat, you lie. If you were so confident, some of you could have faced me. Let one of you come to fight me.
Ref: Dr. M. Haykal, Life of Muhammad, p 289
Ali came to him and Abu Saad was not luckier than his brother Talhah. The men of Abdul-Dar continued re- placing the bearers of their banner with their men, and the Muslims continued annihilating them. Ali destroyed Artat Ibn Sharhabeel, Shureih Ibn Qaridh and their servant, Sawab.
Historians reported that Al-Hamzah killed Othman Ibn Abu Talhah. Assim Ibn Thabit shot by his arrows Musafi, and Al-Harith, two sons of Talhah, Al-Zubeir killed their brother Kilab, and Talhah Ibn Obeidullah killed their other brother Al-Jallas.
Ali and the Banner Bearers
However, Ibn Al-Atheer reported that Ali, alone, de- stroyed all the standard bearers at the Battle of Ohod and said that Abu Rafi reported that. And so did Al-Tabari.
Ref: Ibn Al Atheer, Al Kamil, vol 3 p 107
The death of the bearers of the banner heightened the morale of the Muslims and shook the hearts of the pagans. Following the death of the banner bearers, the Muslims undertook a general offensive led by Ali, Al-Hamzah, Abu Dujanh, and others. The Islamic offensive terrified the pagan army, but the Muslims lost during this operation a giant hero Al-Hamzah, Lion of God, and uncle of the Messenger of God. Wahshi, an Abbysinian, transfixed him with his dart while he was fighting. However, the pagans were forced to flee and leave their camps. The Muslims entered the pagan camps and went on collecting what they found of equipment and material without meeting any resistance from the pagans.
Defeat After Victory
This scene watered the mouths of the fifty marksmen whom the Prophet placed at the slope of the Mount of Ohod to protect the back of the Muslims against the pagan cavalry. The majority of these marksmen left their place and joined the collectors of the spoils. They did not heed the word of their leader Abdullah Ibn Jubeir, who reminded them of the instructions of the Messenger which made it mandatory for them not to leave their place. Not more than ten of them heeded his words. Noticing the small number of the marksmen, Khalid Ibn Al-Waleed and his horsemen killed them then started a general offensive.
The fleeing pagans beheld their horsemen fighting and attacking. They came back to the battle while the Muslims were preoccupied collecting the spoils.
The Muslims were astonished and confused. They start- ed to fight but they did not know whom they were fighting Many Muslims were killed by the Muslims themselves, then they fled turning their backs and refusing to look behind, while the Messenger was calling upon them to come back to the battle. The Holy Our’an informs us of the situation of the Muslims in this terrifying hour:
God certainly made good His promise unto you when you routed them by His leave, until the moment when your courage failed you and ye disobeyed after He had showed that for which ye long. Among you are some that hanker after this world and some that desire the Hereafter. Then did He divert you from your foes in order to test you. But He forgave you. For God is full of grace to those who believe. Behold ye were climbing up (the high ground) without casting a side glance at anyone, and the Apostle was calling you back. There did God give you one distress after another by way of requital, to teach you not to grieve for what ye miss, or for (the ill) that had befallen you. For God is well aware of all that ye do. [Quran 3:151-52]
Who remained with the Prophet (pbuh&hf)
The companions fled away, concerned only with their own safety. History recorded seven exceptional Meccans (Ali, Abu Bakr, Abdul-Rahman Ibn Ouf, Saad Ibn Abu Waqass, Talhah Ibn Obeidah, Al-Zubeir Ibn Al-Awam, Abu Obeidah Ibn Al-Jarrah); And Seven exceptional Medi- nites (Al-Hubab Ibn Al-Munthir, Abu Dujanah, Sahl Ibn Huneif, Assim Ibn Thabit, Saad Ibn Mu ath, As-ad Ibn Hudheir or Saad lbn Abadah and Mohammad Ibn Musli- mah). These men, according to some historians, remained with the Prophet when the other companions deserted him.
Ref: Al Waqidi, Al Maghazi (Conveyed by Ibn Abu Al Hadeed in his Commentary on Nahjul Balagha, vol 3 p 388
From what we read in Al-Mustadrak by Al-Hakim, we understand that Ali Ibn Abu Talib was the only defend- er who stayed with the Prophet for the duration of the battle. The other companions who were mentioned to be among those who remained with the Prophet were actually the first ones to come back to the Messenger of God after they left him. Al-Hakim recorded that Ibn Abbas said:
Ali has four distinctions no one shares with him: He was
the first male who prayed with the Messenger of God. He
was the bearer of his banner in every battle and he was the
one who stayed with him at the Battle on the day of Al-
Mihras (the Battle of Ohod, where there is gathered water
called Al-Mihras ), and he is the one who washed his
blessed body and laid him in his tomb.
Ref: Al Hakim, al Mustadrak, vol 3 p 111
Al-Hakim reported also that Saad lbn Abu Waqass said: When people left the Messenger on the day of Ohod, I went aside and said to myself I shall defend myself … then Al-Miqdad told him: “Saad, this is the Messenger.”
Ref: Al Hakim, al Mustadrak vol 3 p 26-28
Al-Hakim reported also that Al-Zubeir said about the Battle of Ohod, "And they exposed our back to the horse- men, so we were attacked from behind, and a man shouted: Mohammad has been killed. We retreated and the enemies pursued us.
Ref: Al Hakim, al Mustadrak, vol 3 p 27-28
He also reported that Abu Bakr said: When people left the Messenger of God on the day of Ohod I was the first one to come back to the Messenger of God … then he mentioned in the hadith that Abu Obeidah lbn Al-Jarrah followed him."
Ref: Al Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, vol 3 p 78
The Prophet (pbuh&hf) Participated
The Messenger stayed at the battlefield with full deter- mination and firmness after the pagans came up to him. He himself fought vigorously. Saad Ibn Abu Waqaas reported that he witnessed a man whose face was covered, and he did not know who he was. The pagans came towards him and Saad thought that they were going to overpower him. But that man took a handful of gravel and threw it at their faces and they retreated . . . Finally Saad discovered that that man was the Prophet. He used his bow and expended all his arrows until his bow could not be used any longer.
Ref: Ibn Husham, Biography of the Prophet, v 2 p 78
When the Prophet was exposed to the enemies by the retreat of his army, Obay Ibn Khalaf tried to attack him. Some of his companions tried to bar Obay from reaching the Prophet, but the. Prophet prevented them from doing that. He faced Obay with a blow which did not seem to be effective. But Obay said: “By God, Mohammad has killed me…” He told me in Mecca: “I shall kill you. By God, if he spits on me he kills me.” Obay died in “Saraf” while returning to Mecca.
Imam Ali’s (as) endeavor
Al-Tabari reported that Abu Rafi said: The Messenger of God witnessed a group of pagans coming to him. He said to Ali: Charge them. Ali charged them and forced them to retreat and killed Amr Ibn Abdullah Al-Jumahi. The Prophet beheld another group coming and told Ali to charge them and he did. He scattered them and killed Sheibah Ibn Malik, one of the children of Amir Ibn Lu-ay. Amazed by Ali’s sacrifice Gabriel said:
Messenger of God, what a redeemer Ali is!
The Prophet replied:
He is from me, and I am from him.
Gabriel said:
And I am from both of you.
They heard at that time a voice saying:
There is no youth (full of manhood) but Ali, and no
sword comparable to Zulfiqar (Ali's sword).
Ref: Sayed Muhsin, Al Ameen, in his Aayan Al Shiah, vol 2 p 195 Al Fairoozbadi, Fadail al Khamsah, vol 2 p 317 (from Tabari) Ibn Al Atheer, In his Biography, vol 2 p 107
A regiment arrived from Kinanah in which four of the children of Sufyan Ibn Oweif were present. Khalid, Abu AI-Sha-atha, Abu Al-Hamra, and Ghurab. The Messenger of God said to Ali: “Take care of this regiment.” Ali charged the regiment, and it was about fifty horsemen. He fought them while he was on foot until he scattered them. They gathered again and he charged them again. This was repeated several times until he killed the four children of Sufyan and added to them six more …
Ref: Ibn Abu Al Hadeed, in his Commentary, vol 1 p 372
Ibn Husham reported that the Messenger fell into one of the pits which were excavated and covered up by Abu Amir, who expected the Muslims to fall in them. The knee of the Messenger was cut. Ali held the hand of the Mes- senger and pulled him up and Talhah Ibn Obeidullah help- ed him until the Prophet stood up.
Ref: Ibn Husham, Biography of Prophet, vol 2 p 80
Muslim in his “Sahih” (Authentic) reported that Sahl Ibn Saad said the following:
The face of the Messenger was cut, and one of his teeth was broken, and the protective dress of his head was broken. Fatima, daughter of the Messenger, was washing the blood and Ali was pouring water he brought by his shield from Al-Mihras. Beholding that the water increased the flow of blood, she burned a mat, put some of its ashes on the wound and the blood stopped.
Ref: Muslim, in his Sahih, vol 12 p 148
The Conclusion
It would not be difficult for the reader to infer the following:
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The Battle of Ohod was one of the battles on which the future of Islam depended.
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The death of the bearers of the banners of the pagan army at the beginning of the battle had its important effect in raising the morale of the Muslims and breaking the mo- rale of the pagans who were four times more numerous than the Muslims. The bearers of the banners in the eyes of the warriors in those days were the leaders of the army. Their death had a great effect on the morale of the army. History recorded that Abu Sufyan said to Banu Abdul Dar:
O Banu Abdul-Dar, we recognize that you have more right than any other Meccan clan to carry the banner (because the Meccan tradition gives the clan of Abdul- Dar the right to carry the banner at war). We were defeated in Badr because of the banner. Hold your ban- ner firmly and protect it or hand it to us.
This infuriated the clan of Abdul-Dar. As they refused to surrender their right of carrying the banners Abu Sufyan said:
Let another banner be added to it." They said: "Yes, but the additional banner will be carried also by a man from Banu Abdul-Dar, and nothing other than this will be accepted.
The Meccan pagans witnessed at the beginning of the battle their banner fallen ten times, and their hearts fell with the banner ten times. They found, to their astonish- ment, that they are facing a tremendous power. Ali was the one who destroyed the banner bearers or most of them. This signalled the defeat of the Meccan army in the first round.
- When the Muslims were defeated in the second round, no one remained with the Prophet except Ali and thirteen others of the companions of the Messenger. These thirteen were the first to come back to the Messenger after their flight. It is clear that Ali’s defense in that decisive hour was much more valuable than the defense of the thirteen companions put together.
The Messenger of clod became the target of the pagan’s attacks. Whenever a regiment aimed at the Prophet Ali charged the regiment and forced it to retreat.
Thus, we would not be erroneous if we say that Ali in this decisive battle had the exclusive honor of being the main defender of the Messenger and his Message, against the forces which no one other than Ali could face success- fully. The Battle of Badr laid the foundation of the Islamic state, but the Battle of Ohod was about to destroy the foundation, had not a small number of heroes headed by Ali been present.
The pagans found that the Battle of Ohod ended in their favor. They defeated the army of the Prophet, and the Mus- lims lost seventy companions, among them the giant hero: Al-Hamzah, uncle of the Messenger and Lion of God. But the pagan victory was not decisive. Their target was Mo- hammad and Muhammad was still alive. He was the biggest danger to them Therefore, it was necessary for them to have another decisive battle in which they would realize the goal that they could not realize at the Battle of Ohod.
The Battle of Ohod took place during the third year after the Hijrah. Two years later, the third decisive battle in which the pagans gathered their biggest task force, took place.
Taken from The Brother of the Prophet Muhammad
The Imam Ali by M. Jawad Chirri
Director of the Islamic Center of America
Two Volumes, Harlo Press 1988, Revised Edition
[This message has been edited by Pathan Bhai (edited January 09, 2001).]
The Battle of Uhud was fought a year or so after the Battle of Badr. The battle of Badr was won by the Muslim army, 313 muslims against approx. 1000 quraish army men. The battle of Uhud was a means for the Quraish army to avenge their badr defeat.
In the battle of Uhud, Quraish came in with better than 3000 men, and the muslim army, under the leadership of Prophet SAW, countered with around 1000 soldiers. Hazrat Ali RA was among the front runners in the battle, when he fought duels with several flag bearers of the Quraish, and killed them or injured them, thus killing the morale of the Quraish. That was followed by an all out offensive under the guidance of the Prophet SAW against the enemy, which completely demoralized the Quraish.
However, during the battle, the Prophet SAW had instructed a group of archers to sit atop the Mount Uhud and keep guard, in case the retreating Quraish decided to come in and attack the Muslims from behind.
The Quraish were fittingly defeated, and were in retreat, when the group of archers stationed on Mount Uhud took it upon themselves to retreat from their positions as well, since they thought the battle was over. This, they did, despite firm orders from Prophet SAW, their leader, to man their positions till instructed otherwise. This disobedience cost the muslims dearly, and the Quraish indeed came from behind and overwhelmed the muslims. A big percentage of the muslim army retreated as a result and left the battle field, and there were only a handful of faithful sahaba who were left fighting with the Prophet SAW in the end. Most of them were members of Ashra-e-Mubashara, the blessed ones who had been assured of jannah in their lifetimes.
Three major incidents regarding this Ghazwa....
1) The unintentional disobedience of Prophet SAW on part of the muslims.
2) The exceptional bravery of Hazrat Ali RA.
3) The shahadat of Hazrat Hamza RA, the uncle of Prophet SAW.
Whats significant about the shahadat of Hazrat Hamza RA is that after he was martyred by a man named Habshi, his body was decapitated, and his internal organs were removed.
When Hazrat Hamza's RA body was about to be lifted to be taken away for burial in a graveyard, the mountain of Uhud started shaking as if an earthquake was in the making. Prophet SAW told the sahaba that Uhud(the mountain) was crying and begging for Hazrat Hamzas RA body not to be taken away from its lap. Hence, Hazrat Hamza RA was buried right there, in the battlefield, by the foot of the mountain.
There is a mention of this battle in the Holy Quran in Surah Aal-e-Imran, halfway through the surah, if you wish to read about it.
Thanks alot all of you, helped me alot…once again shukariya, may Allah bless you all
Disobedience of yr sham sahabahs is always unintentional, isn't it Eastern ?
Abu baker, Umar, and Usman were good at running away from battles. This was their norm. Nothing unusual.
Imam Ali's bravery was his norm. Nothing exceptional. Was Khaiber exceptional, or Khnadaq, or Hunain ?
Funny, yr coward sahabahs don't have a mention in any of these battles.
Food for thought, isn't it.
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Originally posted by a1shah:
**Disobedience of yr sham sahabahs is always unintentional, isn't it Eastern ?
Abu baker, Umar, and Usman were good at running away from battles. This was their norm. Nothing unusual.
Imam Ali's bravery was his norm. Nothing exceptional. Was Khaiber exceptional, or Khnadaq, or Hunain ?
Funny, yr coward sahabahs don't have a mention in any of these battles.
Food for thought, isn't it.**
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i truly feel for u man.....these arent just ANY ordinary ppl ur talking about.....these were ppl who SUPPORTED the prophet..thru thick and thin....
By running from the battle ground and causing our holy messenger to loose a tooth ?
Thru thick and thin - does running for their lives and leaving the prophet (pbuh) behind count ? Can't get thicker than that.
Your so called sahabah characters were nothing more than munafiqs.
If you want to study the lives of the righteous sahabahs, look at Salman farsi, Abuzar ghafari, Ammar bin Yasser, and Miqdad. These were the true and righteous sahabahs of our holy apostle (pbuh)
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Originally posted by a1shah:
**Disobedience of yr sham sahabahs is always unintentional, isn't it Eastern ?
Abu baker, Umar, and Usman were good at running away from battles. This was their norm. Nothing unusual.**
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a1shah...you are a petty petty man.
I am not going to get into what your books tell you, but according to reliable historians, most of the Ashra-e-Mubashara were alongside the Prophet SAW through the battle. Then again, I dont think you believe in the Ashra-e-Mubashara either.
In case you were wondering, Im not a sunni. Neither am I a wahabbi. Neither am I a shia.
You can live and die with your shia identity for all I care, but when someone asks me who I am, my response is "Muslim".
Your cursing of the sahaba-e-karam does not bother me for the fact that it doesnt make a dent on the stature that they have in Allah SWT eyes. If you believe you are right, then more power to you.
By the way, I asked you a very simple question a long time ago, in a thread lost in space regarding the Ahl-e-bait, but you bailed out. Wonder why?
Eastern;
Neither am I bothered by what all yr beliefs are regarding those munafiqs. You are correct about one thing, all yr sunnar praises for them isn't going to exempt them from the crimes they committed.
As muslims, we should follow the Qur'an and the sunnah. I completely agree.
Is that what you are really doing ?
And please post yr questions once again. I will do my best to clarify them for you.
** Oh Allah bear my witness that i dismiss all false claims against Sahabas which any one makes in these forums. Forgive me for reading it.
Oh Allah You are the Knower of all Truth. Raise the Darajat of all Sahabas specially of those who are unjustly criticised and cursed. Amin.
Give Hidaya to those who are truly seeking for it. Amin
**~~~Performace of good DEEDS avoids the evil ending.~~~
He, who advises for the GOOD, is similar (in rewards)to the doer of it.**
(Sahih Al-Jami 3797 & 3399 resp.)
Yr sham sahabas were in the battle all right - running for their lives.
That's why after 39 days of fighting, Khaibar couldn't be defeated.
The sight of Marhab the Jew caused fear in yr munafiq companions. Which is why on the 39th day, the prophet (pbuh) then said "Tomorrow, I will give the standard to one who loves Allah (swt) and his prophet (pbuh), and whom Allah (swt) and his prophet (pbuh) loves".
And the standard was given to Imam Ali (as). Khaibar was destroyed and victory was achieved.
From what the prophet (pbuh) said, it seems that for 39 days, the standard was not being given to anyone with true love".
Truth has now become petty, has it ? Don't get emotional and read yr books.
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Originally posted by Aapca:
**** Oh Allah bear my witness that i dismiss all false claims against Sahabas which any one makes in these forums. Forgive me for reading it.
Oh Allah You are the Knower of all Truth. Raise the Darajat of all Sahabas specially of those who are unjustly criticised and cursed. Amin.
Give Hidaya to those who are truly seeking for it. Amin
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May the righteous sahabahs be rewarded by Allah (swt). And may truth be revealed and falsehood shattered.
Ameen.
I dont remember all my questions, however... I am not going to pollute this thread with it. I will open another thread just for that, and if that leads to hatred and junk, I will request the mod to close it.
YOU GUYS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FIGHT ON MY THREAD
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well guys dont u think a1shah is right? i have never heard of abu bakr umar usman in any of the battles..i took Islamiat class in pakistan..maybe in grade 8th..i m not sure..and it was written by sunni..all i hear was Imam Ali winning every battle for Muslims..please dont be so prejudice ok..admit the fact these personalities were not winning any battle for Muslims
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Originally posted by Sheraz CT:
well guys dont u think a1shah is right? i have never heard of abu bakr umar usman in any of the battles..i took Islamiat class in pakistan..maybe in grade 8th..i m not sure..and it was written by sunni..all i hear was Imam Ali winning every battle for Muslims..please dont be so prejudice ok..admit the fact these personalities were not winning any battle for Muslims
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The reason for that was that u never tried to read anything else Hazrat Ali (R.A). All sahabas were not soldiers but fought along with Holy Prophet in all gazhwas. Take for example Hazrat Abu Bakr, he wasnt a soldier but for God's sake dont try to change facts. Take for example Hazrat Abu Bakr :
Abu Bakr(R.A) fought in the Battle of Badr, and the Battle of Uhud, and the Battle of The Ditch, and the Battle of Al-Hudaybiyah. Abu Bakr fought all of these battles with the Messenger of Allah (Peace Be Upon Him) and he defended the Prophet (u) in the Battle of Tabuk against terrible odds. In addition, he was amongst those who stood firm in the Battle of Uhud and in the Battle of Hunayn when many of the others retreated.
people can be so pathetic. (you know who you are)