Basic questions, with no malice

The following questions(similar) can be asked of almost any faith, I am asking about the Muslim faith; No offence meant.

Why should anyone believe in the Prophet? Mind you, the question is not about believing in God. If one human is favored with the instant revealations, why not more, why not all? Or was that person more deserving than everyone else? If so in what way - I find this divine intervention very random particularly in view of the disbelief in reincarnation.

Why are there rituals and superstitions instead of mere prayers? For a religion that opposes imagery, why are there symbolisms such as East facing (yeah I know about Mecca but why should one face Mecca), hair growth etc? I feel the anti-imagery and pro-symbolisms are contradictory.

If God made all including all humans, why after creating non-Muslims for some reason, will the revealations state non-beleavers are infidels?

NOTE: I’d appreciate objective answers. No offence or insult intended.

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Why should anyone believe in the Prophet?

Because he was the chosen one. Instead of sending down all his angels and sending wahi to all humans, he chose one person to spread the message of Islam or faith in one God and the day of judgement. We are supposed to believe in the Prophet and what he said because he didn't just stand up and say that he's the messanger of God. And it also says in Quran to follow what the prophet says because he's only spreading the word of God. Would you still want to question what quran says and why it says that? Maybe you just need to think on your own then because I wouldn't question quranic ayahs...it's a gunnah I think. It's like questioning the professor why a certain student got an A+ and you or anyone else didn't. Why does anyone get an A? Because they study hard. They're good students. They do whatever the prof tells you to do etc etc

If one human is favored with the instant revealations, why not more, why not all? Or was that person more deserving than everyone else? If so in what way...

Why not more or anyone else? Well because the level of faith in every human differs, yes, eventhough they're all created by one God. God granted us brains to think on our own and that's where our test really starts from...our thinking, our soch which develops faith and everything else. Yes, God can control our thinking as well but he has just left us on our own from there to see how worse we can get when we're on our own.

I hope you're talking about Prophet Mohammad. But this goes for everyone, I'll just give an example of Mohammad here. Back in that time and even before that, it was called "zamana-e-jahaliyat" how ever they say it in English. People were really messed up that time. They were non-believers, had more than one god, and many other things that we call shirk in Arabic/Urdu. Mohammad SAW was unique in his own way. I'm not pretty sure but he was a believer already before God sent a wahi. He was a man with patience, dignity, faith, and what not. Everything that a God's messanger should have. Not everyone is the same. That's all I can say. It's like asking Allah why he chose Mohammad. I don't think I'd really like to question God why he did what he did. He's the authority, he can do anything he wants. Why should we question the one we worship? Oh and yes, he WAS more deserving than anyone else. Why? Because of his unique qualities. Actually, God sent him to earth as his messanger. That was already written in his fate. So, he possibly wouldn't have been anything else if he wasn't a prophet. He probably wouldn't have been born then.

Why are there rituals and superstitions instead of mere prayers?

I don't really get this one. Do you mean rituals as in ceremonies like Eid etc? or rituals as in something else?
superstition as in believing in magic or future prediction etc?
Let me know then I might answer if I have one.

Why should one face Mecca?

Weird question. Because it's the purest place on earth. It's a place of God. It's a place to worship. It's a place where we perform hajj and umrah. It's a place where Islam really started. It's basically a rule. Just like you have rules in everything you do in your daily life. You have to go to school to study. You can't just stay home and do it. You have to keep your face towards the overhead/blackboard in the class to look at what is being written or said you won't look in the back or opposite direction if the overhead is straight ahead would you? You will have to open your mouth to eat the food, can't get it in if it's closed. So this is a rule too, you have to face that way.

By hair growth you mean the certain parts where we have to trim the hair right? Well, it's a part of umm...purity perhaps. It's hygienic in a way. Just like you have to do wozoo to say your namaz ussi tarha you have to keep some certain parts of your body clean (shaved) to make yourself pure entirely. I don't know why we have to do it but we just have to.

If God made all including all humans, why after creating non-Muslims for some reason, will the revealations state non-beleavers are infidels?

Could you be a bit more specific. I didn't quite get it. I surely will answer this one though.

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In early days of Quran revelation the Prophet poropogated the sanctity of Jarusalem and asked Muslims to face towards Jarusalem while offering prayers. Later, when he failed to convince Jews of his Prophet hood he changed the direction of prayer towards Mecca.

One has every right to beleive in his religion, but in Quran mostely very derogatory remarks are used for people who reject the authenticity of Ayats.

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Wow Destinee, ur good

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he didnt change the directiong Allah did. Quran e pak is not written by Prophet pbuh , sent by the Allah so what Allah says about non beleivers is written in it. Believe it or dont, one makes a choice and one is held responsible for it.

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My opinion. Verizon's school of thought. No Hadith, No tafsir nada, Powered by Quraan and Quraan only.

The following questions(similar) can be asked of almost any faith, I am asking about the Muslim faith; No offence meant.

Why should anyone believe in the Prophet? Mind you, the question is not about believing in God. If one human is favored with the instant revealations, why not more, why not all? Or was that person more deserving than everyone else? If so in what way - I find this divine intervention very random particularly in view of the disbelief in reincarnation.
OK. Well Atlantis, Your first sentence talks about muslim faith. Muslim faith involves belief of a Prophet in our case Mohammad. We say the Kalima for that very reason. So we have to believe in the prohpet.
I think you are mixing philosophy with relgion. I hear you on "if one why not all". Similarly looking at Old testament , you will find many prophets that came and went some were killed by the 'O children of Israel' themselves. So there is a human element present as well. As for your last statement. Divine intervention is not random but rare, look at the virgin mary all muslims believe in that. Thats a rare occurance.

Why are there rituals and superstitions instead of mere prayers? For a religion that opposes imagery, why are there symbolisms such as East facing (yeah I know about Mecca but why should one face Mecca), hair growth etc? I feel the anti-imagery and pro-symbolisms are contradictory.
Because Islam is not just religion it is also a way of life. It also emphasizes on cleanliness. Also Surah2 verse 115 sort of sheds light in a different context but ample enough for the believers (or people who want to believe).

If God made all including all humans, why after creating non-Muslims for some reason, will the revealations state non-beleavers are infidels?

NOTE: I'd appreciate objective answers. No offence or insult intended.
More geare towards the 'O childern of ISrael' they were known to cause mischief and question their own prophets. I mean Allah has favored them over all other humans and still they caused a commotion. First with slaughtering ofthe cow/lamb etc, then with food dropping from the air. I guess you cant make everyone happy.

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I wanna answer I wanna answer! after Eid maybe.Have a good one you all!

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^^ Why too busy slaughtering Qurbani?

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no too much uni work! This is so unfair!

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I want to read reference verses regarding change of direction for prayers from Jarusalem to Mecca.

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Lot to read and dissect and digest. Will do. Thanks.

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You ask good questions.

I am wondering if your questions were truly objective.

That question ^ I suppose defines me as a person who asks questions. I am guilty of asking mostly stupid questions.

Does God answr silly questions?

Perhaps sometimes he does. I would like to think God laughs at us people often. So we ask a silly question...its Gods job to give a silly answer.

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http://www.alrisala.org/Articles/quranworld/full_quran/baqarah142-143.htm
hope this helps.

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God swt answers all questions. Just ask. If he doesn’t just post a question on Gupshup. I am sure some Gods creature will be sitting here dying to take a stab at anything that appears in bold.

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What do you mean one of God's creatures? God him(her)self may be registered. ahem.

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Probably the following will help.

The Mulla Nasreddin was resting with a friend under a huge oak tree next to a field of melons. As he lay there, he said to his friend, “Everyone says that the Creator has a grand plan, but look at this majestic oak tree with its ridiculously small acorns, and these spindly melon plants, with their huge fruits. I’d say the Creator made a mistake on this one.”

“How’s that”? asked his friend

“Shouldn’t it be appropriate that the spindly melon plant have small acorns and this huge oak tree bear the burden of melons?” retorted Mulla Nasreddin.

**Suddenly then an acorn fell right on his nose. **

“OH! Now I understand your Wisdom oh my Creator, I thank you that it was not a melon!” said Mulla Nasreddin looking towards the heavens.

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I am not sure about God, but there are many who talk on behalf of God as a copy right and are ready to answer any question, silly or not silly.

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^^ You mean Gupistan.

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I'll answer based on what I've learned. I could be wrong, of course, since I'm not PhD in all this.

Why should anyone believe in the Prophet? Mind you, the question is not about believing in God. If one human is favored with the instant revealations, why not more, why not all? Or was that person more deserving than everyone else? If so in what way - I find this divine intervention very random particularly in view of the disbelief in reincarnation.

Okee.

Point 1: I agree with Destinee's analogy on a student and grades. Why did THAT kid get the A+ in organic chemistry in a class of 200 people (no joke, it happened that way at my university - only one kid got an A in the class that large)? Partly because he worked his behind off. However, its not really accurate to say that he was the only one who worked his butt off. Others did too. My poor roomie nearly had a heart attack after each test. :-(
In addition to the hard work, there was some in-built natural tendency to grasp the subject matter well - to see SN1 and SN2, and E1, and E2 reactions in a way that most other students did not see them. He could see the molecules moving around in his head, and he knew what would be the next step in the mechanism...it was just natural for him.

Likewise, its similar with the Prophet. There was some natural affinity - look at his background. He lost his parents, he made a man of himself at a very young age, he travelled a LOT, so even though he was not too learned book-wise, he still knew a lot (I just read some awesome passage by Descartes regarding this also - Descartes shed the practice of studying philosophy and decided to create his own philosophy - before he devised his famous Method, he was off travelling, fighting in armies in different countries, and basically just getting to know what human nature is all about).

point 2: If one, why not more? Well, er, there were more - there were other prophets...for other generations for other cultures...

Why not more for the arab people in particular? I always saw this in a more physics-kind of way. Its very likely that God is either made of energy or is surrounded by energy - energy so intense, that no human would be able to bear the sound of God's voice or bear the sight of God's light, etc. That's just an example - of course, I really don't know what God looks like. But a HUMAN messenger was needed. Think if God himself, or even if the Angels came to Earth to spread the message. First off, everyone would die of a heart attack, just out of fear (there is no real way to know that Angels have the ability to come in human form - that's just Hollywood-talk, really). Secondly, it wouldn't make the game of Good vs. Evil too fun, would it? Then God would win automatically. Maybe God wants to play around with the disobedient devil for a bit, and we're all caught in cross-fire? Who knows?

Point 3: You talk of re-incarnation and then somehow parallel it to a human recieving divine intervention. Those are 2 different things dude. You can have a faith that rejects the idea of re-incarnation and accept the idea of divine intervention - they're totally separate ideas.

Point 4: I don't know if this is what you're trying to get at...but muslims are supposed to believe that Prophet did recieve divine revelation and he was meant to communicate it to us. Muslims are not supposed to believe IN the prophet, in the sense of worshipping the prophet. He was a messenger, that is all. I think muslims, especially our pakistanis, go out way more than they're supposed to - they really do almost worship him to the point that they emulate petty behaviors like eating with their hands rather than forks and knives. It doesn't matter which way you eat, and its sad that muslims feel that these are the messsages that the Prophet wanted us to learn from him!

Why are there rituals and superstitions instead of mere prayers? For a religion that opposes imagery, why are there symbolisms such as East facing (yeah I know about Mecca but why should one face Mecca), hair growth etc? I feel the anti-imagery and pro-symbolisms are contradictory.

Again, how are you paralleling symbolism and imagery? They're two separate things (even in literature!). Imagery involves exalting a human figure. People make images (statues, paintings, etc) of people they feel are important, or of imaginary figures that they feel are important. The risk is not in the picture itself in fact. Its in the risk that later on after generations go by, that picture may become a worshipped object. Its happened before - its happened to the statue of Mary. I certainly don't think Mary was meant to be worshipped! You can't worship a symbol like the idea of facing East. Have you heard of anyone say "I worship the idea of facing East". No, its something we do, not something we worship.

Now if you're talking about material symbols like statues, then we dont have any of those. You'll have to provide me examples of material symbols that you are interpreting as imagery.

Since, I've clarified that symbols and imagery are two different things in Islam, I would tell you that the idea of facing East is not so much about Mecca being pure (as Destinee states). There are plenty of garbage activities going on in Mecca like porn videos - I kid you NOT.

Rather the symbol of facing East is more to unify muslims...if we all face the same direction when we pray, we're all on equal footing in the end. We're all humans - creations of God. Yes, you might be a big businessman, and I might be a mere peddlar, but in the end, we're both the same. We each have the same body organs, we have the same brain, we have the same life that will terminate soon enough. And we're both accountable for our actions.

Hair - are u talking about trimming hair or shaving your head in Hajj, etc? INterestingly, I had a muslim friend doing her masters (soon phD) in classical Islam, and she was telling me that the literature currently is in a mess. Where people come up with the ideas of Hajj rituals (like throwing stones at the 3 Satan statues), etc...no one has been able to give me a decent answer. Much of it is taken from the Hadith - almost none of the Quran, surprisingly. I personally take the Hadith with a grain of salt, and I surely don't think following the Hadith is COMPULSARY, except in the event that it echoes a principle already discussed in the Quran. Therefore, many of the symbols you will find have some basis in Islam, and many really do not. It's this obsessive focus on these small matters that really has led Muslims off their path and led to the crumbling of the Islamic empire.

But for all this, one really needs to sift thru the literature out there. And it really is in a state of mess. A lot of scholarly work has never been references - surprisingly a lot of that work has come from ancient female scholars. A lot of scholarly work was destroyed when certain regimes took over. And then you also have the problem of scholars coming up with different theories on the same subjects. For example, one guy from Iraq or Syria (can't remember) actually stated in his work that doing mathematics is Haraam. He was an ancient scholar - from the time of the Islamic empire. Then you had scholars who opposed him and claimed that Mathematics IS Islamic.

That's why, really, you need to question a lot of what you're told. I positively hate it when people on this board say "Its Islamic, you can't question it". For much of what we do and think is really not Islamic, but just a product of some scholar's work that we've taken to be the Truth.

If God made all including all humans, why after creating non-Muslims for some reason, will the revealations state non-beleavers are infidels?

The pattern goes like this. God creates a human. Each human. Each human is born with a blank slate. God KNOWS what's going to happen to this person, and if they're going to heaven or Hell, but God also allows for repentance and forgiveness...so you may start off as a 3 year old destined on the path of destruction and hell, and actually wind up on the heaven path if you somehow realized you were wrong.

This is a complicated problem which I dont think ANYONE can really sort out well enough. It involves the concept of fate and free will. If God KNOWS you're going to hell when he created you, then why give you a choice in the matter...because then you really don't have a choice...

I always thought of it as this. Let's say you have a friend. The friend has made the choice to cheat on an exam. You have inadvertently found out that they're going to cheat because you read something in a diary or because you overheard them stating it. So, even though you had no influence in the choice, you KNEW they were going to cheat. Let's say that a day before the exam, your friend decides not to cheat, and this time they just tell you "hey man, I was thinking of cheating on that exam, yo, but I figured not to do that..." They've changed their path, and you had no influence on that, but you KNOW they've changed their path. Just knowing something does not necessarily mean that you interfered in that decision.

And just based on statistical reasons, if you have billions upon billions upon billions of people (think of all the humans that have ever existed - the total number!), and each person is given a choice to do bad or good, you know that statistically there will be many that will choose to do bad! So, therefore, God knows there will be infidels. Any basic mathematician would know it, so why wouldn't God?

NOTE: I'd appreciate objective answers. No offence or insult intended.

Not at all, they're good questions.

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oops I forgot to include one other point.

If one why not more? If there were other prophets with the Rasul, that could be a source of power-struggle. I don't care what ANYONE says - many people think that the Rasul was perfect and never made any mistakes (he was admonished in a revelation that is recorded in the Quran, for Pete's sake) - but if you put two men together and give them both revelation and tell them to work together - oh hell, even I know that's a potential source of problems. I'm sure God figured that out as well.