Re: Barack Obama says he will order invasion of Pakistan
I think that US troops and pakistani soldiers should work together towards clearing those terrorists that have safe haven in pakistan. Pakistani officials/troops won't be giving these militants the severe punishment they deserve. They are too lenient or else why do dawood and other terrorists feel so safe in Pakistan.
I would prefer a joint venture where the common thought is to wipe out these terrorists.
Just because the militants happen to be muslim doesn't mean Muslims should be tolerant or sympathetic towards them. Terrorists are terrorists, their only goal is to kill the innocent.
Funny coming from an india whose govt was so linient towards the hindu mob and their shiva ji aka Narendra Modi ;)
Re: Barack Obama says he will order invasion of Pakistan
In Pathans ( like i am ), if any one from our side commit a sin/crime, we never give him to our enemies or we never allow our enemy to take him from us, as we are capable of punishing him by ourselves. and at the same time we are strong enough to protect the dignity and name of our family.
Riding on a high horse, eh? How do you explain the Pathans in Afghanistan where every one seem to be willing to sell their loyalties the next highest bidder? I remember warching a documentary where the USSSG person said, " everybody in Afghanistan is up for a take. Nobody is loyal to no one". Why do the pathan/Afghan tribes seem to switch sides to the side that has the most power/money?
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^^ I think that is the reason that OBL is purported, according to many sources, to have arab and chechen bodyguards as he couldn’t trust the pathans to be loyal to him
Re: Barack Obama says he will order invasion of Pakistan
well then y OBL stays in Pathan lands, y don’t he goes to Chechniya and Arab lands along with his few body guards!!! ( i think he cannot trust his arab brothers and Chechans for that matters). few ppl don’t know what they are talking about, they believe every thing, and u might be one of them!!!
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Yeah and OBL is new prophet of the time!
Sad to see peacemaker Bacha Khan's birthplace is now proud to host the world's worst known terrorist.
Sad utterly sad!
this is open board so i cannot express my true feeling about him, but this Gentle-man is one of those about whom we can say, sooner he dies, better it is!!! or in Urdu we say "Khas kum JahaaN pak"
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this is open board so i cannot express my true feeling about him, but this Gentle-man is one of those about whom we can say, sooner he dies, better it is!!! or in Urdu we say "Khas kum JahaaN pak"
Then I seriously doubt that you represent majority of Pashtun intellectuals.
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well then y OBL stays in Pathan lands, y don't he goes to Chechniya and Arab lands along with his few body guards!!! ( i think he cannot trust his arab brothers and Chechans for that matters). few ppl don't know what they are talking about, they believe every thing, and u might be one of them!!!
That one is simple. Obl stayed where he found people dumb enough to support his sorry a**. Don't get me wrong - there are many many great pathans and I salute them. But then there are those dumbasses too.Just like in pakistan some good people and some evil people and many in the middle who get swayed by either side because mullas have lobotomized their self think. If HQ doesn't say it they don't know it.Anyways, you have to think and decide - whether you're going to go through life under an illusion of pride while in reality everyone is laughing and spitting at you.
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Then I seriously doubt that you represent majority of Pashtun intellectuals.
I never said that i represnt Pashtun, I represent Pakistan, my homeland, not a particular group!! BTW, not many pashtum intellecuals has different opinion about OBL than what i have expressed.
Infact some of them do conclude that, Al-qaida is even bigger threat to Islam and Islami countries than USA !
but sad this Majority haven't been heard. or let me put it this way, no one want to hear them as they may damage their "Roti-Rozi"
Re: Barack Obama says he will order invasion of Pakistan
That one is simple. Obl stayed where he found people dumb enough to support his sorry a**. Don't get me wrong - there are many many great pathans and I salute them. But then there are those dumbasses too.Just like in pakistan some good people and some evil people and many in the middle who get swayed by either side because mullas have lobotomized their self think. If HQ doesn't say it they don't know it.Anyways, you have to think and decide - whether you're going to go through life under an illusion of pride while in reality everyone is laughing and spitting at you.
U never answered what i wrote to u!! and u came here to diferent reply on a totally different theme!!!
OBL is hidding ( if he is hidding) in this place because this is were he born ( some dumba$$es don't realise that) Qandhar and neighbouring areas were was the place where he was stationed when he was hero for America, so he have established strong contacts on the ground...
BTW with all that latest tracing technology with which they look into every bit and byte, why where THEY not able to trace him yet either dumba$$es sitting in washington and/or Islamabad dont want to do that for some particualr reason, or they don't know how to use it!!!
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well then y OBL stays in Pathan lands, y don't he goes to Chechniya and Arab lands along with his few body guards!!! ( i think he cannot trust his arab brothers and Chechans for that matters). few ppl don't know what they are talking about, they believe every thing, and u might be one of them!!!
Arab countries have sold themselves [there are diehards] and chechnya is run by russia. For your information, many arabs / chechens live in the areas as well and it is perfect cave hide out territory.
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U never answered what i wrote to u!! !
What do you want to know? I didn't know you had asked me any questions. Pls repeat.If it is abu aq khan, I've already told you that he has done unimagonable harm to destroy pakistan which will have to payu price for decades to come. He along with the military dictatorship and the mullahs has reinforced to the world the impression and image of an uncivilized untrustworthy religiously extremist undeveloped land of lawlessness corruption and social backwardness.I hope that's the answer you're looking for
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Who is to blame for this? One name: A.Q.Khan. This sob has done so much to damage pakistan that price will be paid for a long time. I ask all those people who come to his defence and call him hero - are. You happy he becomes hero while making pakistan a big zero?Does any dobt now that american force are having there way inside pakistan because they do not trust anyone in pakistan anymore? Can you blame them?
Tariq Akhtar
Mohammad Ali Jinnah is to blame, Na Pakistan Banta Na hamaiN ye Din Daikhna Parta
Re: Barack Obama says he will order invasion of Pakistan
Obama is getting slammed from all sides now - by the White House, the State Dept, Democratic and Republican Presidential candidates and others. It’s good to see so many sensible American officials/politicians coming to Pakistan’s defence, after the comments of this kook.
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US politics is deathful, ALWAYS unfortunately white or black or brown - power gets to all.
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PREZ POLITICS: Obama’s Unusual Pakistan Plan http://www.sajaforum.org/2007/08/prez-politics-o.html
Pakistan has been thrust into the middle of the U.S. presidential
campaign, thanks to Senator Barack Obama’s comments on Aug. 1, 2007,
about how he’d deal with terrorism. From the AP report, “Obama Talks
Tough on Terror.”
“Let me make this clear,” Obama said. “There are terrorists holed
up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting
to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had
a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we
have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and
President Musharraf will not act, we will.”
That of course, set off a lot of coverage. Here’s a roundup of news
and opinion pieces from the major U.S. media:
* NY Post: Obama: I’d Invade Ally: Stunning Plan to Fight Qaeda in Pakistan
* NYT: Obama Calls for Military Shift in U.S. Focus on Terrorism
* WashPost: Obama Says He’d Take Fight to Pakistan
* LAT: Obama Talks Tough on Pakistan, Terror
* Reuters: Tough Talk on Pakistan by Obama
See latest stories, via Google News, Yahoo News.
The government of Pakistan responded with some harsh words (from news.com.au):
PAKISTAN accused Democratic US presidential candidate Barack Obama of
“sheer ignorance” today for threatening to launch US military strikes
against al-Qaeda on Pakistani soil.
Mr Obama warned today that if he is elected president, he would order
US forces to hit extremist targets on Pakistan’s frontier with
Afghanistan if embattled military ruler President Pervez Musharraf
failed to act. “Such statements are being made out of sheer
ignorance,” Pakistan’s Minister of State for Information, Tariq Azeem,
said.
“They are not fully apprised about the ground realities and not
aware of the efforts by Pakistan.”
Islamabad has bristled against a string of similar threats in
recent weeks by the administration of US President George W. Bush,
whose top counter-terror official in July refused to rule out US
strikes in Pakistan.
Mr Musharraf, struggling to contain a wave of Islamist violence
unleashed by the army’s bloody storming of the radical Red Mosque in
Islamabad three weeks ago, himself firmly rejected any US action last
week.
“We have said before that we will not allow anyone to infringe our
sovereignty,” Mr Azeem said.
