Banu Qurayza

[shardmanny]

Re: Banu Qurayza

i think op has been confused by the present more then history. she sees contradiction

i mean the todays moderatti over emphasize peace inorder to make islam appear same as liberalism, this leads to the feeling that muslim blood is trade-able. no its not

and on this basis yes - pakistan as a state atleast is guilty of the same treason bani qurayza was. a) it had a brotherly relations with its neighbour b) with multiple treaties (i can safely assume) inc mutual defence(?) c) hosted the initial attacks from its soil d) went on to initiate its own war with the brethren of its neighbour living on pakistans side of the durrand line e) acts as main supply route for foreign forces f) went from being under sanctions to having very powerful nonbelieving friends and potectors

scary topic - oh yes

if someone knows better, please do enlighten

[Ma_Mooli]

Hero for people like you? And why would anyone do something for the likes of you? For some one who cant comprehend simple historical backgruond, who chooses to pick and distort events as they please, you’re ilk would be pretty irrelvant. Not only that, had you been there you would probabaly be one of the enemies of Islam for purporting the ignorant filth you just did.

Regardless…you’re problems lie in your insecurities and inability to defend islam and youre lack of knowledge rather than anything else..and that is something that you will have to deal with yourself for a long time. Good luck with that.

@Supernova_Girl

^ Muhammad SAW had a lot of power which he could use wisely. He chose to follow the 7th century law & order when he could let the Banu Qurayza go and gain their support instead and be a hero even for people like ME who find it extremely difficult to swallow what happened. It gives these bast*rd terrorists a reason to kill every infidel. For a prophet who’s known for being the most peaceful man, I don’t understand how he failed to see through this one. With all due respect, if he indeed was a true prophet then why did he fear getting attacked and killed? If this was indeed a true religion, it would have spread anyway. To me, this was not religious but political that’s why I hold Muhammad SAW responsible because he had the power to stop it and gain their support. The Jews of Medina feared Muhammad, if they didn’t the Qurayza wouldn’t have waited for the Quraysh to make their move.

Anyways…just let it be I guess.. I would never understand this “Muslim” mentality.

Mods: Please close this thread before it turns really ugly!

[Das_Reich]

Re: Banu Qurayza

It gives these bast*rd terrorists a reason to kill every infidel.

I dont see how the talibs or anyone justify their killings by citing this incident SPECIFICALLY since this execution was in accordance with JEWSH LAW not moslem

Talibs justify killings by Takfeer , which is an entirely different issue.

[Das_Reich]

Re: Banu Qurayza

If this was indeed a true religion, it would have spread anyway. To me, this was not religious but political that’s why I hold Muhammad SAW responsible because he had the power to stop it and gain their support.

Here lies the problem you think politics is not part of religion ? look at the lives of all the prophets of israel of old testement they were religious AND political leaders

[Das_Reich]

I would say "Hey Muhammad, let’s move out of their land and go back to Mecca.

and commit suicide !

If people can’t accept us here maybe we shouldn’t interfere with their matters anymore. They welcomed us here, let’s not be so harsh

and abandon their allies ansar to the vengence of pagan arabs and jews ?

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Let’s burn the stupid treaty as it makes no sense and stop with the self-revealed death threats to have a reason to attack them first and then ask them to help us fight the Quraish for our selfish reasons

and lose all credability for all future dealings , not to mention the faith of all followers so far.

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Sa’d bin Mua’dh would have been beheaded then. Nevermind…

You have no qualms about killing an innocent man , for what crime?

OP your problem is political correctness you have in this image the concept of “islam is a religion of peace” and you think that the ideal way of handling things is by acting like a Gandhi or Buddha.Unfortunately that is not recommended by any major religion.