Bans could be lifted if players apologise: PCB

KARACHI: Pakistan have told the seven players disciplined for their behaviour in Australia to apologise in writing if they want to be pardoned.

Mohammad Yousuf and Younis Khan were banned indefinitely, while Shoaib Malik and Rana Naved were suspended for a year and fined after an inquiry blamed infighting within the team for the poor performance on tour in Australia.

The board also fined all-rounder Shahid Afridi, wicketkeeper Kamran Akmal and batsman Umar Akmal.

“The board took the right decision in the given circumstances and due to what happened in Australia,” Pakistan’s chief selector Mohsin Khan told reporters on Wednesday.

“… (But) the board may reverse the bans and fines if the players submit written apologies accepting their offences.”

Former captain Yousuf retired from international cricket on Monday in protest of claims that he was a disruptive influence on the team during the Australian series and Afridi has lodged an appeal against the fine imposed on him.

Yousuf has already been assured that he has an international future, with the chief selector telling him to reconsider his decision to retire.

SOURCE: DAWN.COM | Cricket | Banned players could be pardoned if they apologise: PCB


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PCB is a joke. Though we all knew that overturning of bans/fines is a big possibility but not in this manner where PCB is acting like a school teacher telling students to write, “I am sorry” on a piece of paper 100 times.

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What exactly do you expect from them since we keep blaming them for what ever that is wrong with pakistan cricket. From infighting within the players to not finding openers for more than a decade, it's all their fault.

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Well… that’s easy. I want to see how Yousuf reacts to this. Does he apologize and comeback or say.., no you apologize to me then I’ll come back. :hmmm:

err... PCB is the governing body... if it doesn't have the right to discipline or pardon players, then who does?

having said that Younis and Yousuf should not be let off with a written apology in my opinion. of course, I really doubt that either one will apologize either for their shenanigans. the egos are too big.


They are the ones to discipline but its stupid to announce their punishments then few days later say oh if they apologise we will forgive. That erases the punishment. Our dheet players can easily apologise to come back just like our corrupt officials later to just to forget what happened. These players need to go thru full punishment handed out.

agreed. (is this the third qiyamat?)

my only point was that it seemed like ppl were questioning the authority of the PCB. it is fashionable among Pak fans to blame the PCB for EVERYTHING under the sun. I'm surprised the PCB hasn't been blamed for Malik marrying Ms. Mirza yet.

Can PCB or the players stick to one thing for a change.

I can see Yoyo being a yoyo but an institution to act like a kid is ridiculous. Players break the code of conduct, action is taken, dust settles and decisions are promised to be reversed. Everyone's time is wasted, reputations are ruined..

Samb, whether you like it or not but it is a fact that PCB is responsible for the shambolic state of Pakistan cricket.

Had they managed their players, officials and the whole organization in an orderly manner things could have been in a much better position today. And I am not just talking about PCB under Ejaz Butt but I am talking about the way it has been run over the past several years.

PCB never tried to discipline the players when needed, gave rise to unneccessary player power, hired incompetent staff who enjoyed unlimted powers .They were never able to negotiate fruitful foreign tours for Pakistan. Done absolutely nothing to promote test cricket in Pakistan or to attract local crowd. The fact that Pakistan played their last 5 Test match series 18 years back in 1992 tells you how competent they have been. Got involved into all kinds of financial embezzlements. The list is endless.

An organization like PCB which should ideally be run by corporate and business minded people actually hires upper management staff on the basis of their past cricket credentials rather than their educational background and business and management experience

Have you ever seen any other cricket board making regular headlines for all the wrong reasons? The world gets to hear everything about Pakistan cricket except actual cricket. Is that not enough to understand why people blame PCB for every cricket related irregularity in Pakistan.

the biggest blame rests with the PCB for sure. though I think Pakistani fans and media are not without blame either.

Pakistani fans exert tremendous pressure on the board, players, etc. why else would players like Afridi never be dropped when they went years without any performance? burning effigies, stoning players' houses, shooting the TV after losing a game, etc., are all proud achievements of Pakistani fans. and when awaam start coming out and burning stuff, politicians like Dasti announce superficial actions that harm the game more than help it. when people protest on the streets or call into tv stations to express their disgust, players are sacked, captains dismissed, fines announced, bans implemented. so let us not pretend to be innocent little victims. we have played a big role (imo it's a big role) in the state of the game today.

Pakistani media has taken some great strides of late. but the level of sports journalism is very, very poor. most of the so-called journalists are biased. I swear there was a guy who launched a proper, organized campaign for the inclusion of Khurram Manzoor (I have nothing for or against him - he has a long way to go before he can be judged). he went so far as to say that Manzoor was a victim of politics, etc, and the fact that he didn't have a paawa behind him, blah blah blah... and that Khurram had an outstanding technique. and he was being victimized because of being from Karachi, etc.

now Manzoor might still succeed due to his determination, etc but no one who has seen him bat would say that he is solid or he has a great technique. obviously, this particular journalist had no idea what he was talking about and was just writing rubbish. I've read similar stuff about other players as well. these writers hype up certain players... and if they're not picked up immediately, they accuse the PCB of nepotism, corruption etc.

so, imo, the PCB should be blamed the most. but there are other facets of Pak society who also deserve blame - including Pakistani fans who imo have next to no patience - with players or administrators. if it were up to Pak fans, Inzi would have been fired 40 times in 3-4 odd years as captain. thank God for Shehryar Khan who was a sensible person and didn't come under pressure from our tabloid sports press and over-exuberant fans.

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Had they managed their players, officials and the whole organization in an orderly manner things could have been in a much better position today. And I am not just talking about PCB under Ejaz Butt but I am talking about the way it has been run over the past several years.
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very true. couldn't agree more. glad to see you're not pinning anything on Ijaz butt. one Ijaz Butt or Tauqeer Zia didn't cause this debacle. and one Shehryar Khan can't fix it all. it is the system that needs fixing. individuals mean nothing.

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PCB never tried to discipline the players when needed, gave rise to unneccessary player power, hired incompetent staff who enjoyed unlimted powers .They were never able to negotiate fruitful foreign tours for Pakistan. Done absolutely nothing to promote test cricket in Pakistan or to attract local crowd. The fact that Pakistan played their last 5 Test match series 18 years back in 1992 tells you how competent they have been. Got involved into all kinds of financial embezzlements. The list is endless.
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fair enough. I don't disagree with you.

but my question to you is - that is dayr ayad durust ayad not true? if the PCB is FINALLY trying to discipline players and curb player power, what is the reaction from fans? is the PCB still not being criticized because someone's favorite player here or there was punished? so, is there any way the PCB can win? when it treats players with kid gloves, PCB is told to be strict. when it disciplines people, it is still blamed. how can it ever win?

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An organization like PCB which should ideally be run by corporate and business minded people actually hires upper management staff on the basis of their past cricket credentials rather than their educational background and business and management experience
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COULD NOT AGREE MORE. meray bhai, I've been beating the same dhol over and over again too. you won't find me disagreeing with that. there is no room for ex-cricketers in the PCB except for pure cricket roles like coaching, selection committee. press handling, financial management, international representation should all be left to people with management experience/education.

100% agreed.

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Have you ever seen any other cricket board making regular headlines for all the wrong reasons? The world gets to hear everything about Pakistan cricket except actual cricket. Is that not enough to understand why people blame PCB for every cricket related irregularity in Pakistan.
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again agreed. I would love it if a blanket ban was imposed on every person in Pak cricket for a year. not a peep out of anyone - be it the players, administrators, experts. everyone just stfu. that would be beautiful. absolutely divine. my idea of heaven.

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PCB is a joke. This is pathetic. The likes Yousuf, Akmal, Rana must be punished. Younus...well im not really sure what he did to deserve an indefinite ban, but he is doing the smart and right thing by appealing and im sure he will prove himself clean in front of the world unlike sissy Yousuf who retired 'for now' cuz he doesnt have the balls to prove he didnt do anything...because of course he was part of the BS that was going on in Australia.

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mods please move it to jokes section

:smiley: :k:

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i dunno if i should be happy or Laugh :frusty:

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oh lord :omg: this is actually crazy :bummer:

PCB management is laughable and simply impossible to understand.

Although most of us felt that:

  • the indefinite bans on Younus and Yousuf were a bit over the top (although they both deserved some kind of punishment, Younus for shamelessy dragging a fan on a cricket pitch not so long ago and Yousuf for blasting his own players in public, his weak and insipid leadership was the main reason for the infighting within team and poor showing on Australian tour)

  • Afridi and the two Akmals got off lightly with just fines. The Akmals in particular deserved to be banned for atleast 6 months for showing such gross indiscipline and unprofessionalism on the tour. This is not their mohallah team, they are representing the national team..

such dithering on part of PCB administrators proves that they are grossly incompetent and incapable of running this organisation and MUST be replaced.

This is something my class 1 or 2 school teacher would tell us to do for showing indiscipline in class/ not doing our home work etc!

Yar Samb, honestly I really don't think PCB gives a crap about public or what they think or do. They have never done it the past and aren't doing it now. I am almost confident that no one ever was able to get into the national squad, stayed in it or was kicked out of the squad because of the public pressure. If that had been the case, the current state would have definitely been much better.

Same goes for these senators like Dasti, Enver Baig etc. They dont act because public becomes mad at players. May be they are attention whores as what we like to call them or they see PCB as a cash cow but the point is they always have their own agenda.

The level is sports jouralism is indeed poor. It could be baised journalism as well though I think its mainly the lack of knowledge of the game.

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Indian fans and media acts and reacts even worse but you don't see BCCI acting like morons.

Fans and media discourse in sports is very common, which is not limited to Pakistan or Cricket to say the least.

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Pakistani team needs some psychiatrist

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^ you forgetting PCB

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Such an easy going organisation.