When was the decree first enforced? Please share any reference materials.
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
O ye who believe! The mushrikin (idolaters only) are unclean. So let them not come near the Inviolable Place of Worship after this their year. If ye fear poverty (from the loss of their merchandise) Allah shall preserve you of His bounty if He will. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise. ** Surah 9. At-Tauba, Ayah 28**
Idolators are no longer allowed into Al-Masjid Al-Haram
Allah commands His believing servants, who are pure in religion and person, to expel the idolators who are filthy in the religious sense, from Al-Masjid Al-Haram. After the revelation of this Ayah, idolators were no longer allowed to go near the Masjid. This Ayah was revealed in the ninth year of Hijrah. The Messenger of Allah sent `Ali in the company of Abu Bakr that year to publicize to the idolators that no Mushrik will be allowed to perform Hajj after that year, nor a naked person allowed to perform Tawaf around the House. Allah completed this decree, made it a legislative ruling, as well as, a fact of reality.
For detailed reading:
Quran Tafsir Ibn Kathir - Idolators are no longer allowed into Al-Masjid Al-Haram
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
^true.
my followup question then is why other kinds of idolaters are allowed in Makkah? don't you think they need to be stopped as well?
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^ For the 'other kinds of idolaters' leave the judgment to Allah Almighty - they do so in ignorance.
Maybe by visiting this Blessed Place they may cleanse themselves of these 'other kinds of idolataries'!
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
^ For the 'other kinds of idolaters' leave the judgment to Allah Almighty - they do so in ignorance.
Maybe by visiting this Blessed Place they may cleanse themselves of these 'other kinds of idolataries'!
Maybe by visiting that Blessed place, the open and unabashed idolators may cleanse themselves of such idolatry?
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^ For the 'other kinds of idolaters' leave the judgment to Allah Almighty - they do so in ignorance.
Maybe by visiting this Blessed Place they may cleanse themselves of these 'other kinds of idolataries'!
that's one approach to the problem. this is like giving 'benefit of doubt' to such idolaters. what if there ain't any doubts regarding their being idolaters of another kind?
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
so basically what used to be a common place of worship was turned into one exclusively for one religion, calling the rest dirty. and kids grow up learning all this as fair practice.. no one sees this as a problem?
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
so basically what used to be a common place of worship was turned into one exclusively for one religion, calling the rest dirty. and kids grow up learning all this as fair practice.. no one sees this as a problem?
:raises-hand-meekly:
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
There is a difference between 'non-muslim' and 'idolaters'. Also, the mosque is only a small part of the city.
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
There are no idolaters entering Makkah that I am aware of ... People should learn their 'aqeedah before bran.dishing the label of mushrik on to others.
However, there are some idols that have come back in to the sanctuary, although these are not the sort of idols that are worshiped.
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
so basically what used to be a common place of worship was turned into one exclusively for one religion, calling the rest dirty. and kids grow up learning all this as fair practice.. no one sees this as a problem?
welcome back queer.
There are many things that if looked at in isolation do create problems like intolerance, considering others and their beliefs dirty, etc. The act of banning non-Muslims from sanctuary has a historical perspective behind it and it didn't come all of a sudden. It also came at the time, when majority of residents of Makkah converted to Islam. Others were provided grace period either to accept the decision or leave the city (though such people were instrumental to conspiracies and atrocities against the new faith and its followers). This came at the time, when world was not global village like today and the decision didn't affect majority's rights.
Having said the above, your point still carry weight, as I don't think that majority of Muslims are well aware of the reason for such decision.
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
so basically what used to be a common place of worship was turned into one exclusively for one religion, calling the rest dirty. and kids grow up learning all this as fair practice.. no one sees this as a problem?
In short it is becoming into the place of worship for one sect of Islam, the rest are idolaters in their view
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
so basically what used to be a common place of worship was turned into one exclusively for one religion, calling the rest dirty. and kids grow up learning all this as fair practice.. no one sees this as a problem?
Peace queer
The House of God should be used the way God wants it to be used. People would bring idols made with their hands to be housed in the Ka'abah, they would circumambulate the Ka'abah naked. They would be ritually unclean and perform unholy acts thinking they were holy. This has since been stopped.
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
Peace queer
The House of God should be used the way God wants it to be used. People would bring idols made with their hands to be housed in the Ka'abah, they would circumambulate the Ka'abah naked. They would be ritually unclean and perform unholy acts thinking they were holy. This has since been stopped.
Yes, but people use these practices of ancient pagan Arabs as an excuse to not allow Non-Muslim of today from coming near the Ka'abah. Non-Muslims today arent going to be circumambulating, they wont have idols, and they certainly wouldn't be naked. And yet...
The world is a changed place, isnt it about time Muslims started acting more inclusive and accepting? This notion of them and us is really detrimental to the Muslim psyche. It promotes bigotry and prejudices, and contradicts the otherwise magnanimous nature of the faith.
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There is a difference between 'non-muslim' and 'idolaters'. Also, the mosque is only a small part of the city.
no, non Muslims are NOT allowed inside the 'MEEQAAT'.
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Then why ban Christians and Jews? They are no idolators.
I think the verse is in reference to allowing pagans to move in and set up their worship in the mosque of idols. Not that they can't come into the city and explore and learn about Islam.
The ban on non-Muslims including Christians and Jews is recent in the last century since the current House of Saud took over. Prior to that, Christians and Jews did come into the mosque area and they did visit Makkah and Madina. As for pagans, I think again, we are talking about setting up of their statues and idols in the area, not that they are banned from visiting and exploring the area as tourists.
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Then why ban Christians and Jews? They are no idolators.
There is a Vedic school of philosophy which believes in formless God. It neither believes idols nor past or present personalities like peer baba, soofi saint or any incarnation/avatar.
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
no, non Muslims are NOT allowed inside the 'MEEQAAT'.
Why?
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
meeqaat is where the 'sanctity of the House of Allah' starts and that's where Muslims [intending to perform Hajj/'Umra] dorn their AHraam [unstitched Hajj cloak] before crossing over into the 'sanctified area'.
Re: Banning Non Muslims in Makkah
Lets look at the 'Muslim only" restriction from a non-discriminatory pov. Its like only patients are allowed in an ICU or only ticketed passengers are allowed on the other side of security gate at the terminal. So it makes logistic sense.