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Do you read the articles that you post or simply google them and then post them.
From the first article ---
Anybody can claim anything. It needs to be substantiated.
Hindus believe that Rama used Pushpaka Vimana, the first aeroplane. It is all a matter of perception.
So what proved in your post that I DID NOT READ the articles before posting? Come again?
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Why dont you just admit it that you did not read. People can make unsubstantiated claims about discoveries and inventions. If this is the straw that you are clutching, I dont know what can help you.
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I asked you how do you know I did not read?
You are arguing for argument sake.
The discussion is not about mythical beliefs by Hindus. Talk about that “URan Khatola” in perhaps …cultural forum.
Get yourself educated before arguing. Like I said above, ignorance is not an excuse. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_flying_machines
The 9th century Muslim Berber polymath Abbas Ibn Firnas covered his body with vulture feathers and 'flew faster than a phoenix" according to a contemporary poem. This is the first attempt at heavier-than-air flight in aviation history backed by a contemporary documentary source.
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So you base your arguments on a poem. I rest my case. What else did the poem say... that they sent rockets and landed people on the moon. Imagination is the forte of the poets and be practical
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Honestly do you think that this is possible. If so, please continue with your words of wisdom. It can be collated and turned into a book of jokes.
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its sad that you think that muslim did not invent a single thing…
i cant think about any civilization or religion(people belonging to religion) which did not contribute to science and technology
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Nobody denies that the muslims did not invent anything. My only point was that we should look at the present rather than just talk about the past glories.
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Could you please enlighten me on what these scientific discoveries were..
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So you base your arguments on a poem. I rest my case. What else did the poem say... that they sent rockets and landed people on the moon. Imagination is the forte of the poets and be practical
Honestly do you think that this is possible. If so, please continue with your words of wisdom. It can be collated and turned into a book of jokes.
Nobody denies that the muslims did not invent anything. My only point was that we should look at the present rather than just talk about the past glories.
First you asked.
Your were given answer.
Then you resorted to questioning one event and equating it with mythical belief.
Now, it is nice to see you changed your position. Completely different and another tangential topic.
Every civilization had something to contribute and older ideas and research make the basis of newer ideas and inventions.
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Now now now the nay sayers... Any western scholar or historian will tell you that the root of great European renaissance are in the Islamic world/civilization. When one civilization was in Dark Ages the other was 800 years of inventions and innovations.
Please let me quote a speech from EX HP CEO Carly Fiorina...excerpt below w.r.t. Islamic contribution.
There was once a civilization that was the greatest in the world.
It was able to create a continental super-state that stretched from ocean to ocean, and from northern climes to tropics and deserts. Within its dominion lived hundreds of millions of people, of different creeds and ethnic origins.
One of its languages became the universal language of much of the world, the bridge between the peoples of a hundred lands. Its armies were made up of people of many nationalities, and its military protection allowed a degree of peace and prosperity that had never been known. The reach of this civilization’s commerce extended from Latin America to China, and everywhere in between.
And this civilization was driven more than anything, by invention. Its architects designed buildings that defied gravity. Its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption. Its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures for disease. Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration.
Its writers created thousands of stories. Stories of courage, romance and magic. Its poets wrote of love, when others before them were too steeped in fear to think of such things.
When other nations were afraid of ideas, this civilization thrived on them, and kept them alive. When censors threatened to wipe out knowledge from past civilizations, this civilization kept the knowledge alive, and passed it on to others.
While modern Western civilization shares many of these traits, the civilization I’m talking about was the Islamic world from the year 800 to 1600, which included the Ottoman Empire and the courts of Baghdad, Damascus and Cairo, and enlightened rulers like Suleiman the Magnificent.
Although we are often unaware of our indebtedness to this other civilization, its gifts are very much a part of our heritage. The technology industry would not exist without the contributions of Arab mathematicians. Sufi poet-philosophers like Rumi challenged our notions of self and truth. Leaders like Suleiman contributed to our notions of tolerance and civic leadership.
And perhaps we can learn a lesson from his example: It was leadership based on meritocracy, not inheritance. It was leadership that harnessed the full capabilities of a very diverse population–that included Christianity, Islamic, and Jewish traditions.
This kind of enlightened leadership — leadership that nurtured culture, sustainability, diversity and courage — led to 800 years of invention and prosperity.
In dark and serious times like this, we must affirm our commitment to building societies and institutions that aspire to this kind of greatness. More than ever, we must focus on the importance of leadership– bold acts of leadership and decidedly personal acts of leadership.
The full text of this speech can be found at the Hewlett-Packards website...
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^thanks for these wonderful words :)
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First you asked.
Your were given answer.
Then you resorted to questioning one event and equating it with mythical belief.
Now, it is nice to see you changed your position. Completely different and another tangential topic.
Every civilization had something to contribute and older ideas and research make the basis of newer ideas and inventions.
ya ya he flew around with vulture feathers... what next ???
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ya ya he flew around with vulture feathers... what next ???
People learned from him and refined the idea.
Good to see you again you too learned something. ;)
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keep it civil boys!
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Reporting and answering back in equal terms is completely justified. Just like the posts are deleted. No problem with that.
Thread should have been closed when it was derailed or when repeatedly irrelevant posts were written starting from post #33 and I mentioned that in post #79 .
The discussion was about BD if anyone remembers.