baluchistan releases prisoners on eid

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so what is musharaf gonna do about this? or has he become powerless already against these extremists?

BTW the original title I gave this thread was “The unravelling starts - here we go” - but the moderator has been kind enough to change the title of the thread to something he/she thought is apropo. Thanks

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/12/03/pakistan.religious.ap/index.html

Pakistan province to release banned militants
Tuesday, December 3, 2002 Posted: 6:52 PM EST (2352 GMT)

QUETTA, Pakistan (AP) – The leader of a Pakistani province has ordered authorities to release all prisoners being held for membership in radical religious groups banned by President Pervez Musharraf.

Jam Mohammed Yousaf, chief minister of southern Baluchistan province, issued the order for the prisoners to be released in time for the Muslim holiday of Eid, which is due to begin Friday or Saturday, depending on the sighting of the moon.

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This is democracy at work. Live with it.

And most, if not all of the detainees were being held on flimsy, or no grounds. I dont think Musharraf has a right to intervene here, being the president, and neither will he do so, I hope, since that would merely undermine the authority given to the Baluchistan CM by the people of the country.

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and therein lies musharaf's rub. if he countermanded the regional order to release these loonies, he undermines the elected rep. if he doesn't, then he cannot keep up the treaties he made with bush and powell. i agree that he won't be able to countermand and that leads to the natural consequence of bush and powel no longer taking musharaf's word as something he can deliver.

and that is scary to all parties involved. it took several years of pounding, thousands of palestinian and hundreds of israely lives before PLO would admit that arafat is no longer able to deliver on his promises.

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*Originally posted by Akif: *
This is democracy at work. Live with it.

And most, if not all of the detainees were being held on flimsy, or no grounds. I dont think Musharraf has a right to intervene here, being the president, and neither will he do so, I hope, since that would merely undermine the authority given to the Baluchistan CM by the people of the country.
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I didn't know that Pakistan's democracy involves arresting and releasing terrorists?

If they were innocent, why arrest them?

If they are not innocent, why release them?

We all know the game.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Talwar: *

I didn't know that Pakistan's democracy involves arresting and releasing terrorists?

If they were innocent, why arrest them?

If they are not innocent, why release them?

We all know the game.
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how id detaining suspects and releasing them after investigation different in this case than anywhere else?

there are countries that go around killign "suspected terrorists" atleast in this case the suspects were investigated and those against which the charges could nto be proven were released.

Are you advocating keeping people in prison even when they are not proven guilty?

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*Originally posted by Fraudz: *

how id detaining suspects and releasing them after investigation different in this case than anywhere else?
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We didn't see the phrase "after investigation" anywhere did we?

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Are you advocating keeping people in prison even when they are not proven guilty?
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No.

The fact is Musharraf banned Lashkar-e-Toiba, Jaish, Lahskar-e-Jhangvi etc for a reason, did he not?

Why ban groups and then release their members?

What is the meaning of such a ban?

The fact that these guys were arrested means that they did something wrong. All the govt has to do is bring them to trial and if they are aquitted then release them.

No country releseases terror suspects with a "agreement of good behaviour".

I repeat:

**If they were innocent, why arrest them?

If they are not innocent, why release them? **

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Originally posted by Talwar: *
**We didn't see the phrase "after investigation" anywhere did we?*

And you did not see the phrase "just for the hell of it" either. did you?

*The fact is Musharraf banned Lashkar-e-Toiba, Jaish, Lahskar-e-Jhangvi etc for a reason, did he not? *

sure he did, good damn reasons as well.

*Why ban groups and then release their members? *

could be alleged members and then proven to be unrelated, could be new people, not the head honchos and released but being monitored, who knows.

*The fact that these guys were arrested means that they did something wrong. *

No it means that they were suspected of doing something wrong..otherwise anyone who is ever arrested is already guilty?

*All the govt has to do is bring them to trial and if they are aquitted then release them. *

How many peopel can not be fully charged because the case is just not there.?

**I repeat:

**If they were innocent, why arrest them?

If they are not innocent, why release them? **

Maybe Musharraf learnt from the US, we arrested and released many ppl too because they were suspects and later it turned out to be a false alert.

people can be arrested on suspicion and then let go if the suspicion was false or if there is not ebough evidence to charge them. simple as that.

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Mr.Fraudia,

This “we have no evidence” trick is well known.

Few of the people recently released include.

  1. Maulana Azam Tariq - No Evidence? :hehe:

  2. Lashkar chief - Hafiz Mohammad Saeed - No evidence? :hehe:

Pakistan must be the only country where groups are banned but there is no evidence against the leaders.

Keep it up :hehe:

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:hula: Good news! :hula:

Balochi CM has got guts. :slight_smile:

I think they should release all prisoners nationwide who have not committed serious crimes.

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well you show the evidence then :slight_smile: if people could be arrested for rhetoric, that goon of al mohajiroun in Uk would have been behind bars ages ago.

I mean we do have evidence against a certain advani, but that dinnn do jack :slight_smile:

Banning a group does not always mean that everyone in that group be sent to jail, they just can not operate as that group.

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Just release the leaders and the followers. Let them change the group name and do the killings as usual.

You saw the people around Azam Tariq and Hafez Saeeed with guns firing. Aren’t they operating as a group?

Or are they all operating as individuals who happen to be travelling together coincidentally.

Some logic.

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