After the October earthquake many Kashmiris are moving to Baluchistan in search of jobs and Baluchis are not happy with the Kashmiris moving to Baluchistan.
http://www.opendemocracy.net/conflict-india_pakistan/baluchi_3232.jsp
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But Pakistanis defending their government’s record in Baluchistan point to an annual toll of thousands of murders and kidnappings of soldiers, doctors, teachers, nurses, engineers and road-builders. Who would want to go and swamp such a place? Well, the homeless, jobless quake-hit victims of the October 2005 “mountain tsunami” in Kashmir might. They have been streaming towards Baluchistan in search of the livelihood they lost back home. The tribals don’t want them either.** As for job quotas in the oil and gas sectors, Pakistanis point out that this is a competitive industry run by foreign contractors who win exploration contracts after costly bidding, then employ only people who give value for money. Baluchi tribals, taking their cue from native Gulf Arabs whose lifestyle they envy and wish to emulate, are accused of being averse to hard labour and wanting everything for nothing. The reason for employing outsiders, the argument goes, is because they are willing to work for their money.
*The Baluchi rebels reject Pakistani sovereignty over oil and gas fields outright. They want all the revenues to go to them, but in addition the Marris among them also want to auction exploration rights for the oil they are reputedly sitting on, and to export it directly to foreign markets or by pipeline to India – and keep the proceeds. They have seen what indescribable, unimagined wealth oil has brought to a handful of wandering Bedu and they want exactly the same for themselves in exactly the same proportion. Pakistan, they say, can go to hell. * Not, reply Pakistanis, if we can help it.
Well ironic or tragic, marris will and can "go to hell" as they aren't skillful or numerically strong to impose their will on federal government!
It is like Assamese and the whole of Northeast saying so (where situation isn't much better and actually a hostile bangladesh can "help" matters for these rebels).
In india assam is burning again because it has reached its musliam population beyond critical mass...... any place on this face of earth which has 30+ % muslim population is unstable says alot ..........
but point is how ummah umah bhai bahi is being blown away in thin air.. first it was bangladesh...........
anyway point is why not give autonomy and at least rights to the natural resources to the state govt after all jinnah saheb divide india based on thsi theory only so why not practice it within pakistan
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Never mind pal irrational talk from some posters like you must be taken in stride particularly on online forums..........
Fact remains even the most disturbed of states in india is ruled by locally held perfectly democratic elections not of those kind where Mushy saheb claims he has 90+% of jentry's support but every time needs to change constitution to get himself elected........... even in Kashmir we have clean elections don't send all powerful governor from delhi in islamabad style where they send all powerful miliatry general as governor to POK.. excuse is since they don't consider POK part of pakistan so pakistano constitution doesn't hold there.. but Islambad has no qualms in gifting part of POK to china so much for it's not part of pakistan:-)
so till u do the bare minimum of empowering local people through democracy there hardly is any ground of discussion in this regard comparing pak with india.. there is no contest whatsoever
Your “clean” elections in Kashmir are among the reasons why Kashmiris started fighting you people to begin with…
“India’s efforts to manipulate elections in Kashmir and suppress dissent have marked Kashmir’s history since 1948, but it was not until 1986 that discontent within the state found wider popular support. In that year the state’s ruling National Conference (NC) party, widely accused of corruption, struck a deal with India’s Congress Party administration that many in Kashmir saw as a betrayal of Kashmir’s autonomy. A new party, the Muslim United Front (MUF), attracted the support of a broad range of Kashmiris, including pro-independence activists, disenchanted Kashmiri youth and the pro-Pakistan Jama’at-i Islami, an Islamic political organization, and appeared poised to do well in state elections in 1987. Blatant rigging assured a National Conference victory, which was followed by the arrests of hundreds of MUF leaders and supporters.” http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/kashmir/back.htm
So who are you trying to kid… Your govts policies betray themselves.
Most people would agree that the nawabs are more interested in financing their lavish life style then upholding the rights of their poor oppressed people.
If the Balochi sardars really cared for thie people, they would relinquish their own power over them, and give them the rights they deserve.
Your "clean" elections in Kashmir are among the reasons why Kashmiris started fighting you people to begin with...
I beg to differ it's the trait of islamist wherever they attain a critical mass secetionaist tendenncy starts , it has nothing to with expolitation persectution lack or presence of democracy.... show me a place where there is cirtical mass of muslim population and they don't have separatist movement... that's the way they are secular democracies can't allow that...... because if they do then ti willbe hard to justify freedom of religion to islamist in the respective country...........I mean it will never stiop allow religios freedom the new country again reaches sizable islamic population given they so enthusiastically go for conversion drive it's not far fetched and once they achieve they again go for separatist movement.. thsi just can;t be allowed to go on.. you want rights you want local governmetn you want rights over resources in your province you got it but separation is not allowed because it attackls the secular foundation.......
And yes no doubt Indira Gandhi did meddle with election in kashmir twice in Pakistan style for that matetr that lady meddled election in whole India that's an exception.. but as of today even UN observers accept the latest election in kashmir is as clean as they get........
But the point is Islamabd doesn't come of as any better either .. give the state rights over their resources if those tribal chief get elected and don't deliver, people will see their real colour and smoeone new will gete elected that's how democracy works....... this bogey of since local tribal leaders are not interested in development we won't allow people of baluch fruits of the resources of their own province doesn't hold water
This explains a lot about how Hindu banyay think about Bharati Muslims. His views are a proof that Muslims will always be blamed for every problem these banyas will face.
Quaide Azam and Muslim League were long-sighted well enough to see their true face and intentions towards Muslims.
. Now Ganguly Maharaj, since you put the blame of Assam freedom struggle on Muslims, so it would be logical to ask you to prove that Muslims are at the core of insurgency in Assam.
. I would like to see some Bharati loyal Muslim to comment on the above post of his fellow Hindu banya.
