Balochis speak sensibley all the time… :)They call off their `liberation process whenever they want and restart it at their own will .But they also have got their view over Kashmir and Afghanistan.
(Balochistan National Party Senator Abdul Malik doubted the seriousness of anti-American talk while the country was “in the grip of American imperialism for the past 60 years” and said it must be acknowledged that Pakistan’s “investment in Afghanistan to make it our fifth province” and also in Kashmir had gone in loss)…
Our friends should read this and understand the ground reality in pakistan.poeple are giving up Kashmir and Afghanistan just like they forgot East Pakistan. :hehe:
(Balochistan National Party Senator Abdul Malik doubted the seriousness of anti-American talk while the country was “in the grip of American imperialism for the past 60 years”
BLA offices are DC, malik sahab may not know that..nuff said
It is as clear as sun that Pakistani policies in Afghanistan ever since the Soviet invasion have been an absolute fiasco and akin to hitting on their own foot. Pakistan's support for the gangs of warlords called Mujahideen and later for anti-people forces of Taliban had been a total disaster. The same Taliban, like the Frankenstein's Monster which turns against its own creator, have become a deadly enemy to Pakistan's social and economic well being.
In a bit separate but connected strings of events, Pakistan actively supported the anti-people forces of so-called Kashmiri Mujahideen who were involved in sectarian killings in home and fighting the infidel India in Kashmir. These militants are more or less in agreement with the present Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan [TTP] and other sectarian based militant forces. I'm no fan of Musharraf but so long as he aided the US invasion of Afghanistan to oust killer Taliban and have banned all militant organisations either in home or at frontiers, he should be duly praised.
Re: Baloch leader says Pakistan’s Kashmir and Afghanistan programmes gone in loss!!!
Saudis have a proper Intelligence Agency? Seriously? Must be super-efficient. Never heard of their antics.
CIA though is a ‘usual suspect’..
Btw, BLA headquarters are located in Afghanistan and their leaders are known to interact with Indian officials quite regularly ;). Just another speculation
Present day debacles are also caused by blind bombing of civilian areas by NATO which supports militants' recruitment drive!
It may be a mild catalyst but it isn't the prime reason. You know it very well. There aren't enough cross border raids to give rise to such an unrest in Pakistan. The present anarchy started well before any Nato attack. The dispossessed Taliban fled from Afghanistan and found refuge in FATA, which is home to their brethren and many of their ilk. As I have already said, the Frankenstein's Monster has turned upon its own creator.
^Could be the work of RAW supported suicide bombers who routinely cross over from Afghanistan.
But....that's just speculation :D
There is a possibility that RAW might try to take advantage of the present social unrest in Pakistan and add fuel to the fire. However that doesn't mean that the current situation is part of a some sort of original RAW/CIA plan. It is Pakistan's self created problem that has gone out of control. We Pakistanis have a habit of blaming others for our woes. Let us accept our own faults and try to fix it.
Marbles, all you have said is absolutely true.
Pak ISI created Taliban to occupy Afghanistan, most Pak people supported them, and now Taliban have turned 180 degrees to haunt their creators.
It may be a mild catalyst but it isn't the prime reason. You know it very well. There aren't enough cross border raids to give rise to such an unrest in Pakistan. The present anarchy started well before any Nato attack. The dispossessed Taliban fled from Afghanistan and found refuge in FATA, which is home to their brethren and many of their ilk. As I have already said, the Frankenstein's Monster has turned upon its own creator.
In case you forgot the monster was given weapons and training in 1980s. In 1990s they only got some fuel.
In case you forgot the monster was given weapons and training in 1980s. In 1990s they only got some fuel.
You are confusing two distinct groups of people. One is the so-called 'Mujahideen' which includes local warlords and other non-Afghan Jihadi volunteers, who were trained and armed by US/Pakistan alliance. The other group was the Madrassah students called Taliban, pumped and bred by Pakistan intelligence, in an apparent attempt to create a Pakistan friendly group of fighters in the wake of anti-Pakistan Afghan warlord movement. Both, in fact, in their capacity are anti-people & anti-democracy phenomena who base their polities on hatred and violence.
Pakistan's arming of the Mujahideen in 80s and the creation of Taliban in the subsequent years were foreign policies that have proved to be a set of two absolute fiascoes.
What Pakistan needs, as a start, is that it should completely disassociate itself from any foreign militant groups either in Afghanistan or in India/Kashmir. The next step is to firmly decide not to enter into any peace talks with TTP in FATA for it would give them space to breath and regroup to launch fresh attacks in and outside the country. And continue the military operation against them without let or hindrance until they are killed or unless they surrender.
You are confusing two distinct groups of people. One is the so-called 'Mujahideen' which includes local warlords and other non-Afghan Jihadi volunteers, who were trained and armed by US/Pakistan alliance. The other group was the Madrassah students called Taliban, pumped and bred by Pakistan intelligence, in an apparent attempt to create a Pakistan friendly group of fighters in the wake of anti-Pakistan Afghan warlord movement. Both, in fact, in their capacity are anti-people & anti-democracy phenomena who base their polities on hatred and violence.
In case you didn't notice, when Taliban were "controlling" Afghanistan it wasn't all of them "Taliban". Many of the ex-Mujahideen joined "Taliban" as they were seemingly the winning party and the lota-ex-mujahideen joined Taliban. Some of them are now still with "Taliban" and some have gone back to their old style of warlord-ship.
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Pakistan's arming of the Mujahideen in 80s and the creation of Taliban in the subsequent years were foreign policies that have proved to be a set of two absolute fiascoes.
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Pakistan didn't arm the Mujahideen in 80s, Pakistan was just the "route" for the "aid", arms were coming from Uncle SAM.
In case you didn't notice, when Taliban were "controlling" Afghanistan it wasn't all of them "Taliban". Many of the ex-Mujahideen joined "Taliban" as they were seemingly the winning party and the lota-ex-mujahideen joined Taliban. Some of them are now still with "Taliban" and some have gone back to their old style of warlord-ship.
And I can cite an example of Gulbadeen Hekmatyar vowing to fight USA in alliance with Taliban after the invasion of his country. After the take over of Taliban, some of the ex-'Mujahideen' joined them only due to political and strategic reasons. Their alliance with Taliban [or "joinning" if you like] wasn't on ideological grounds. The two are distinct groups with ideologies poles apart. The Taliban are violent Islamists while the majority of Mujahideen were and still are anti-people corrupt warlords fighting for money and power. The many ex-'mujahideen' who joined Taliban on ideological grounds were foriegn Jihadists like Osama and ilk.
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Pakistan didn't arm the Mujahideen in 80s, Pakistan was just the "route" for the "aid", arms were coming from Uncle SAM.
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ISI armed the 'mujahiden' on America's behalf. Pakistan's decision to become a part of the US grand scheme of things was a shot in the foot. Pakistan is still reaping what the swine called Zia-ul-Haq had sowed.
Seriously? Must be super-efficient. Never heard of their antics.