Ball Tampering Controversy- Your views and discussion

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According to me I think that was a wrong decision by Inzmam when he decided not to come on the pitch, that was not the right way to protest. They should have come with a black band on their arms to protest against decision. Atleast audience could guess they are playing in pressure and not happy with the umpire decision.

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Yes they have all protest gears in their kits... be sensible.. But i m sure i m asking a little too much from u.

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How was ball tampering the greatest skill on earth just last summer and is the biggest sin today?

Re: Mark Taylor’s Comments

Sky Sports has the monopoly when it comes to sports broadcasting in UK. This is the link where i think everyon should drop a message so they can guage our emotion. Also people who havent made up their minds will read and can come to a conclusion.

http://www.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,122-1231597,00.html#addcomments

Re: Mark Taylor’s Comments

This is ICC’s website feeback section. I suggest we drop as many messages as possible registring our feelings but keep them very very civilised.

http://www.icc-cricket.com/icc/contact-us.html

Re: Ball Tempering Controversy- Your views and discussion

From our History perspective and how the world would remember AUG-20 06
is very important for Pakistan and its People.

This is 'Cheat allegation' guys! If ICC is put under pressure to go soft on Inzimam with less severe penalties, won't this render Inzimam as GUILTY ?

Won't it make ICC the dogma of the Game rules?

The only way out would be to break or loss ICC for ever!
The hearing should be public and people who were seen mishandling the 'Evidence ball' after the alleged incident should also be put on trail for making a mockery of the system.

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Inzimam must have taken it as another routine penalty against ball tampering, but realized the depth of the matter after '5 runs were awarded to England.
It deffntly would have been highly unusual and lightining fast for any other captain.

In return what he did and how he did was not important but the point of registering protest was made, but highly mismanaged by ICC and the disputed man yet again!

Hair is guilty of at least 2 counts;

1 - Misinterpreting an illigal action of ball tampering they way he did by ignoring a quizical Captain,

2 - Calling off the game in such a haste without getting on the radio with match referee or seek further clarification. ( half way in conversation with Pietersen he approached the wicket and knocked the bails down as seemingly a pre-concieved human action - Umpire Doctrove followed his action after seeing him do it) :mad:

I want to be on the witness Box :naraz:

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Geo is just reporting that ICC has denied PCB's request to suspend Hair from standing in future Pak matches. Thanks ICC, for rubbing salt in the wounds. Be ready for a few more pak players to be labelled as chuckers.

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^^ Cancel tournaments when Hair is appointed for umpiring...

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IF and IF the ball has been tampered then I think it's Umer Gul - uski shakal say sharaf nahee tupak tee hey :D

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About time this thread's spelling error got corrected in the header line !
Thanks Umar Talib ,,:D

Re: Ball Tampering Controversy- Your views and discussion

I saw the changing-of-the-ball incident and events-after-tea live on television, but after that only followed the rest of the mess through Cricinfo, articles and news headlines. So here is my recap and commentary on what happened.

English coach Mike *Ghunna *Fletcher couldn't stomach Asif's fabulous bowling in the first innings, so went crying to Mike Proctor and said "Save us My Lord, this guy is gonna eat us alive". Mike Proctor gave a nod to Daryl Hair to keep an eye on ball tempering, because ofcourse only English bowlers can reverse swing the ball. Everyone else is a cheater.

So, after 56th over, Hair asked to see the ball, saw a few white marks on it, and decided this is as good an opportunity as ever. He told Doctrove that I am going to change the ball, and being a mouse Doctrove said "Yes Your Honor!". Hair then indicated to the fourth umpire to bring a box of balls. At which point, Inzimam woke up. Walked up to Hair and said "Oye, ay ki karr ray o, tussi?". Hair replied: "shut up!". Inzimam didn't understand and said "Oye mera ball meinu waapis karo". Hair replied: "shut up!". Then Hair went to the two meesna English batsmen and asked Peitersen to pick up the worse, most *ghatia *conditioned ball. Hair also indicated with a pat on his left shoulder that five penalty runs be awarded to England. A good guess is that except for TV commentators and official scorers, no one in the world had a clue what that sign actually meant, so chances of Inzimam figuring it out are between zero and nil.

Once the ball was selected, Hair gave that ball to Inzimam, who took it, scratched his head (and balls) and asked the bowler to start bowling. It is always impossible to figure out what is going through Inzimam's head at any given moment (except a yearning for more biryani), but in this incident the poor guy must be dumb-founded as to what happened. After a few sixes and wicket of Pietersen's, it was tea time. During all this time, we could see Woolmer scratching a ball with his nails in the dressing room, presumably to demonstrate to Waqar Younis the correct way to temper the ball, alternatively to show that all Pak players in the ground are sensible not to get caught doing any of that.

During tea time, Inzimam asked every team member to swear on a plate of aalo ka paratha that no one did any ball tempering. Now we must use the term "ball tempering" carefully. Asif rubbing the ball vigorously at his groin region may be distasteful, but can hardly be called tempering.

Once Inzimam was assured by every member of the team that no tempering was recorded by TV cameras, he told Zaheer Abbas and Woolmer that "enough is enough". Presumably adding, "if that mota umpire is out there, really, there is no point in us playing". If you think about it, Hair had basically accused the whole Pakistan team of being cheaters, so what is the use of English team keep playing with a bunch of cheaters out there.

Contrary to what many TV commentators were saying at that time, and many what many Pakistanis originally believed, and will still like to believe, laws of cricket do not require an umpire to actually see a fielder/bowler tempering with the ball. This change in law was done recently and is the most asinine piece of cricket laws out there. At the same time, while condition of the ball can show enough proof of ball-tempering, common sense dictates that before leveling such a serious charge against a whole team, the umpires will first discuss the issue with the captain. That Hair had his own nefarious agenda in this issue is hardly a secret.

Anyway, Pakistan players refused to come out of the dressing room until the issue is resovled. After making his first trip to the ground, Hair send them the message "Come out to play, warna.....". At which Inzimam said "Warna kiya? Hain? Hain? Fittay moun!". And then Hair removed the bails and officially awarded the match to England.

Then there was a mini-panic in Pakistan camp. With the possible exception of Woolmer, practically no one in Pakistan Board, or team has much interest in knowing the laws of the game. Five minutes after the match was declared forefeited, we could then see Shahriyar Khan and Ehsan Mani gesturing to the Pakistan team to just get out there in the ground and get on with the game. Apparently match referee was also encouraging Pakistan team to go out there, ignoring the fact that the umpire had already declared the game over. After a lot of confusion, and small loss of face, Pakistani players made their way back to the dressing room. We are told that behind the scenes, both Pakistan and English teams were ready to get on with the game, but Hair said "hey! I am done with these bozos. Game is over." Billy Mouse* *Doctrove kept silent throughout this whole affair, cz, as his middle name implies, he has no tongue.

The whole mess resulted in two serious charges laid out against Inzimam. First, ball doctoring and second of bringing the game to disrepute by not coming out to play. Pakistan Board messed up further by coming out with insane statements like "We have no problems with Hair", "We have no problems with English Board", "Our players were only a few minutes late and were about to walk onto the field", "Ball was deformed because of sixes hit by Pietersen".

No, we do have a rather big problem with Hair. English Manager instigated the whole thing. We were not about to walk into the ground, and no sixes were hit till the ball was changed.

Of all the stupid things Pakistan Board has done over the years, they compensated for most of them by doing one bright thing. Which was to hire some seriously good lawyers and threatened a defamation law suit for bringing Pakistan's name into disrepute. It doesn't matter what the expertise of the lawyers was or the merits of a potential lawsuit, but there mere presence caused a huge panic in ICC and messed up Hair's head.

ICC's umpiring manager than encouraged Hair to write an email saying what will be an acceptable package for him to leave ICC's elite panel. As soon as Hair put his stupid offer in an email, ICC's CEO promptly publicized the email and said "what a moron!".

Justifiably Pakistan Board (and Pakistanis) are now jumping with joy and gleeful that the mini-Hitler Hair is found with his pants down, fact is that the charges against Inzimam are still on the table. If Doctrove testifies that he believes that ball was tempered, then regardless of what Hair did, or what kind of racist dog he may be, the case is proved against Pakistan - no additional evidence required. I, personally, think the situation is still concering. The threat of immediate suspension is removed by delay in the hearing (Madugalle's family has a timely illness, it seems), but whenever it happens, it will be foolish to expect that Inzimam will be home-free. Unless, ofcourse, Doctrove proves that he is a choha with no back-bone and publicly distances himself from Hair's decision. That, again, will be a severe career limiting move for Doctrove personally. So, I don't think it is a possibility. Our best bet is that with more behind-the-scenes political activity, ICC drops the idea of the hearing altogether due to extra-ordinary circumstances, without making it a precedence for future captains and teams.

The law regarding ball-tempering must be modified. Calling a whole team "a bunch of cheaters", just because the ball has a few scraps and bruises is not only insane, its downright stupid.

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<<<< my words about Pakistanis cheating should be final after all I am the most “brave” umpire around (ok, what if i asked for 500,000$ :mocking:

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^ anyone would ask for $500,000 after their balls are tampered :mocking:

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^ I know, no one will speak out but you’r not Da’real Hair :smilestar:

But I’l pass you for a good dragster :smiley: