Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
He is hiding somewhere maybe in his hotel room to afraid to come out in public in case he 
. I bet he has been given security personal to protect him.
Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
I don't know about you guys, but I AM MORE MAD and UPSET NOW than I was 24 hours ago. I am guessing I am not hte only one, and ICC's heavy handed stance for the sake of 'supporting its umpires' (while knowing full well they were wrong) is going to make us even more angry...........
24 hours ago, I was advocating a sensible and calm approach to this issue, but now I say, if ICC does penalize Inzi without giving any harsh punishment to Hair, let's fcuk all sense ans sensibility and take extreme measures. PUll out of any fking thing we have to make a stand!
Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
Inzamam faces eight match ban. The whole tournament went to garbage. The tour of England in 2006 will probably in history.
Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
You are not the only one.
Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
SECOND CHARGE IS :-
"Inzamam has also been charged with a breach of C2 at level 3 of the code which relates to conduct that brings the player or the game into disrepute. This charge was brought by Doctrove and Hair, along with Peter Hartley and Trevor Jesty, the third and fourth umpires, following a meeting on** Monday morning**. "
Hair is still spitting the poison right now...snake..
Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
Very good point by Osman Samiuiddin regarding protesting specifically against Hair's "bias." This is the piont I make all the itme that screaming bias is going to hurt the credibility of our grievances, which itself are strong enough to not need accusation of bias.
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The bare facts are this; a Test match has been forfeited for the first time in the history of international cricket and Pakistan once again stands accused of ball tampering. It is tempting, as the feedback from our readers reveals, to accuse the umpires of bias, but by doing so, we run the risk of judging both by their past history. If we are to do that then we must also acknowledge that, historically, Pakistani bowlers have also been previously found guilty of ball tampering. To do either is wrong and the decision must be assessed in isolation.
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Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
More from Osman Samuiddin below. This is why I thought Sheharyar Khan had hurt Pakistan by prematurely appearing on the tv. He should have kept quiet, he wasn't obliged to speak to anyone. Now because of his statements, there are inconsisntencies in our stance which are going to be difficult to explain and will needlessly muddy the water.
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For one, Pakistan's protest wasn't of a "few minutes." They came out at 5.30pm, a delay of 50 minutes. Is it a pedantic point? No, because it suggests apparent confusion in Pakistan's intentions - if it was to be a few minutes why did they not come out when the umpires came to them? If the intention was to come out, why weren't the umpires told as such? In an already complex situation, this is perplexing. Inzamam said to a TV channel that they only decided to play after ECB officials and the ICC match referee convinced him to do it for the good of the game, which suggests the protest was to be longer than what his chairman suggested. Had they refused to come out full stop and forfeited the Test, they would have found sympathizers; instead there is now an inconsistency in their stance which needs to be explained.
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Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
Believe me but you will get more and more upset with the idiotic stance of ICC. You expect that the governing body will bring back sanity but what can you do if they simply add fuel to the fire.
ICC was never sensitive about Darrel Hair's issue and you could tell that by their refusal to consider Pakistan's appeals in the past and now after 24 hours of this controversy, no one from ICC has even come forward to admit that whatever happened was the result of circumstances created by an ICC official.
One would argue that ICC should not care about the circumstances since they are the ruling body of cricket, so they expect players to behave regardless of the situation. Well not so long ago it was ICC was came to the defence of Brian Lara when he was involved in a controversy with Asad Rauf.
ICC said
"Lara showed a little frustration but it was borne out of circumstances"
So now what were they expecting from Inzi and Pakistan team? Were they supposed to be esctatic after a racist guy labelled them as Cheats??
Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
Whole-heartedly, my full and complete support is with you, the millions, Inzamam and the team. Anything and everything that they have done up until now in light of this national tragedy will be accepted and judged in the court of law by fair means possible.
I seriously suggest that alongwith the backing of Sky Sports commentary team alongwith 166 million inhabitants, the ‘real men’ should be thrusted forward, as put below:
Reputable lawyers in exceptional standings are in dire need, but to add the fact that there is even a more pressing internal desire to have the likes of Imran join the PCB camp as soon as possible and act as a spokesperson on behalf of the entire nation is, from a logical point of view, an urgency and critical solution in itself. We need to fight this fight all the way to the end, and if Imran represents us, by God, we will win it through every nook and cranny that is slapped in our faces from those heathens.
Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
I agree that someone like Imran is needed but i doubt if that ill be the case....People at PCB will see it as a good chance to further their credentials. I however do agree with Sir Dig A Lot that in the presence of seasoned diplomats this matter could have and should have been dealt in a better and planned manner.
Hope you guys have seen Shahryar Khan's press conference
Re: Media Articles on 4th Test and Ball Tampering
Hair is bravest man in cricket
Comment by Robert Craddock August 22, 2006
TO his great credit Darrell Hair is prepared to poke his nose into grubby corners of the cricket world where most of his fellow umpires refuse to go.
Over the years he’s been called dictatorial and officious and both accusations have at times been correct.
But they should never overshadow the one great strength of his decision-making - the courage to back his opinion even when the protesting millions disagree with it.
He did it by calling Muttiah Muralitharan a chucker 11 years ago and the fallout - including death threats and a broken marriage - were greater than any man deserved to cop for simply applying the rules of the game.
He’s done it again in England by finding Pakistan guilty of ball tampering and calling off a Test match.
Even if he is proved right Hair cannot win because the decision will almost certainly ruin his life.
His name will forever be mud on the Indian subcontinent and among the many Asian folk who live in England where Hair is domiciled with his partner Amanda.
The influential bloc of four Asian nations who play Test cricket will almost certainly try and run him out of the game and what they want they normally get.
It’s a shame.
Cricket needs no-nonsense characters such as Hair who keep the game honest.
Over the years I have met several umpires who had no doubt Muralitharan was a chucker but would whisper lines like “but I’m not going to call him because it’s just not worth the hassle.”
Last year in England I met a county umpire who said he used to sniff cricket balls and laugh with bowlers over the choice of flavoured mints they used to illegally apply to it to make the ball swing.
Upfront Hair has never been like that.
Say what you like about him - most people do - but at least he stands up for what he believes in and makes the tough calls most men of his trade shy away from.
Pakistani sides - by their own admission - have been ball tampering since the 1970s yet it didn’t become an issue until the early 1990s because many umpires who suspected it - make that detected it - were too timid to act on it.
Opinion is divided over whether Hair actually saw someone tampering with the ball at The Oval on the weekend **but did he really have to? **
Before he started a first-class umpiring career that spans 18 years, Hair was a fast bowler who plied his trade in Orange in NSW before playing grade cricket for North Sydney and Mosman. He knows a “tampered” ball when he sees one.
Pakistan captain Inzamam-ul-Haq must not escape scrutiny - he should be ashamed for not returning to the field when asked by the umpires.
SOURCE: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20208379-23212,00.html
Miandad says Pakistan cricket decision a mistake
Source: The News
—Updated at 2050 PST
KARACHI: Former Pakistan captain Javed Miandad on Monday said Pakistan had put themselves in a difficult position and made a mistake by not taking the field following the row over alleged ball tampering which wrecked the fourth Test against England.
"Pakistan committed mistake after mistake and put themselves in a no-win situation," Miandad told media.
Pakistan skipper Inzamam-ul-Haq was certain to face a penalty, if not others, he said.
"Whoever has taken the decision but it's the skipper who will face the punishment," Miandad said.
Pakistan stayed off the pitch on Sunday after the tea interval to register their anger at being penalised five runs by the Australian umpire Darrell Hair and fellow umpire Billy Doctrove over
allegations of ball-tampering.
The Pakistanis eventually came out but the umpires refused to let the match proceed. It was awarded to England.
Miandad said that Inzamam had accepted Hair's decision by playing the game till the break.
"Either he should have taken the decision immediately or have played the match under protest," he said.
"Pakistan has not only lost the match, but also lost the sympathy with the crowd, who came to see the game," he said.
"If I have been in Inzamam's place I would have asked the boys to play on. I would have played under protest and kept the door open for the appeal," Miandad said.
"What Hair did would be decided by the ICC after hearing Hair, match referee and there will not be many votes in our favour. So we may emerge as loser," he said.
Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf phoned Inzamam to offer his support in the row, officials said.
Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
We all should send a letter or email to PCB to cancell the ODI series if Inzi is fined or banned. As Inzi said this is about respect.
How would you contact PCB?
Re: Miandad says Pakistan cricket decision a mistake
Utter rubbish!!! It’s like saying that Hizbollah should not have responded to Israeli attacks and waited till Isreal would have destroyed it and launched a case later with the International Court of Justice. There is no derth of stupids in Pakistan — we are quite khud-kafeel in this sector. Isn’t it 
I thought we would be standing united at least this time 
Wrong, right or whatever, a decision has been taken by our captain and we we WILL stand by our own Inzi rather than boosting that b@$tard. Shouldn’t we? Miandad, tumhey meiN kya kahooN
Re: Miandad says Pakistan cricket decision a mistake
He is one stupid sob. WTF is he smoking?
Re: Breaking news: Inzamam faces two charges
I am too heartbroken to spell the right words. will comment later.
Re: Miandad says Pakistan cricket decision a mistake
Miandad is rubbish, i heard him sepak last night and he was implying htat Pakistan should have stopped palying even sooner than they did (same as Imran). Seeing htat this has become and unpopular position, the asshole has changed his stance, apparently.
Re: Miandad says Pakistan cricket decision a mistake
What a clown!
People like him should really stay away from expressing their irrational opinions, because all they are doing is tarnishing and ruining his reputable and incredible career as a player.
The last thing a Pakistani should do is admit to making a 'mistake'...
Re: Miandad says Pakistan cricket decision a mistake
That won’t be fair to say. But in this case, YES, even if we made any mistake, this is not the time to back off at any cost. Offense is the best defence!
Re: Miandad says Pakistan cricket decision a mistake
well, i put mistake in quotes to emphasize that we really did nothing wrong. we were literally forced into forfeiting the match. it was doctrove and hair's stubborn attitude that cost us the fifth day.
essentially, that's what it boils down to... (i) to provide sufficient evidence of ball tampering, (ii) to find the party responsible for the declaration of forfeiting.
now, i understand that we have to follow the 'rules', but there's also this thing called honor and dignity, something that is FAR MORE important to true athletes... if Pakistans 'mistakes' were merely to protect their honor, then there is clearly nothing wrong with it from a 'sport' perspective.
perhaps there is plenty wrong with it from a bureacratic/political perspective, but in any situation where pakistan can be given the benefit of doubt, the last thing we need is to spoil our 'solidarity' by having clowns like miandad yapping.