Bahrain protests

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I dont think there are any stats available on how many of native inhabitants and how many immigrants are in Bahrain. A large number of people, my guess is majority are of Iranian descent themselves hence saying the Al-Khalifa are Kuwaitis has no substance.

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^actually there is. 37% of the country is immigrants. Native Bahrainis are Arabs.

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^From the source you posted

Again does not tell you among the Bahrainis how many are of persian descent, they are no doubt a large number of them.

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Doesnt say that "majority" are of Iranian decscent as you had predicted. Large percentage is Arab for that is why its counted as an Arab state by the Arabs!

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Pathan bhai, this might be known as an Arab state but the ground reality is that a lot of the citizens are of Persian descent. They even speak Persian and these are 3rd generation Bahrainis. Not all of them are Shia some of them are also Sunni Persians. The Shias of Persian descent call themselves ajmee and the Sunnis are known as holis. While google and wikipedia is great it doesn't always give the absolute right k
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Me saying that the Khalifa's are Kuwaiti was in response to L Kamikaze saying that the protesters are foreign, I wasn't trying to invalidate their claim of being Bahraini. That said, the Khalifas are still relative newcomers to the island compared to the people that have been living there for hundreds of generations(vast majority of whom are Shia).

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my grandfather was Bahraini, my father holds Bahraini nationality, I was born here as were my brothers and sisters before me and my uncles too for that matter and my children are also Bahrainis....
thats four generations and if that is fast track to you then I dont know what to tell you....

18/40 seats in the parliament shows you the ratio of shiaas to sunnis....
it comes out less than 50%....

the fact is that most of the shiaas here were imported from iraq no longer than 50 years back....
and then a huge number of them is originally persian who till today cannot speak arabic properly and prefer speaking persian rather than arabic....
the actual Bahraini shiaas are maybe just 10% of the total shiaa Bahrainis....

kabhi fursat me aana Bahraini ki pori history sunaoon ga....
tab tak sirf itna zehan me rakho ke not everything u find on net is true....
werna kal se Allah ke wujood ka bhee inkaar kar dena or Muhammad (saw) ki risalat ka bhee....

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Your fictional stories are quite entertaining armurghi.

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Bro! the supporters are bahrainis only bahraini (either native or naturalized) stand shoulder-to-shoulder with all others bahrainis from different sect and religion (sunni, shia, christian, hindu etc etc). In additional to them, they foreigners either pak, indian, bengali, jordanian, egyptian, iraqis etc etc also support royal family.

Those who are against royalship are less. These pplz said to royal if 1.5 Lac bahrainis support you we’ll no longer protest against you. on the next day around 4 lac pplz gathered in support of royalship and majority were shia, then sunni (native and non-native) then those pplz who naturalized and lastly, other nationals living in this country were also present there.

I don’t knw what u r trying to prove here.

read this Click

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If for u its fictional stories then why dont u visit bahrain and see reality by urself :)

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Seen it. :)

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:slight_smile: good :k:

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More “conspiracy theories” from NY Times.

Protests in Bahrain Become Test of Wills

 **By [MICHAEL SLACKMAN](http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/michael_slackman/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and NADIM AUDI**

          MANAMA, Bahrain — More than 100,000 demonstrators packed central Pearl  Square here on Tuesday in what organizers called the largest  pro-democracy demonstration this tiny Persian Gulf nation had ever seen,  as the monarchy struggled to hold on to its monopoly on power.        

In a nation of only 500,000 citizens, the sheer size of the gathering was astonishing. Tens of thousands of men, women and children, mostly members of the Shiite majority, formed a ribbon of protest for several miles along the Sheik Khalifa bin Salman Highway as they headed for the square, calling for the downfall of the government in a march that was intended to show national unity.
“This is the first time in the history of Bahrain that the majority of people, of Bahraini people, got together with one message: this regime must fall,” said Muhammad Abdullah, 43, who was almost shaking with emotion as he watched the swelling crowd.
But for all the talk of political harmony, the past week’s events have left Bahrain as badly divided as it has ever been. Its economy is threatened and its reputation damaged. Standard and Poor’s lowered its credit rating this week, Bahraini authorities canceled next month’s Bahrain Grand Prix Formula One race — a source of pride for the royal family — many businesses remain closed, and tourism is down.
On one side of the divide is a Sunni minority that largely supports King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa as the protector of its interests. On the other is a Shiite majority that knows the changes it seeks will inevitably bring power to its side. The king began releasing some political prisoners on Tuesday night, and the crown prince, Sheik Salman bin Hamad al-Khalifa, has called for a national dialogue to try to bridge differences, preserve the monarchy and unite the nation.
But so far there is no substantive dialogue between the sides. There is a test of wills, as the Sunnis fight to hold on to what they have and the Shiites grapple for their fair share after years of being marginalized by an absolute monarchy that has ruled the nation for two centuries.
“I’m really excited, but I don’t know what is going to happen,” said Fatima Amroum, a 25-year-old woman in a black abaya who was quietly texting as she watched the procession on Tuesday. “I’m a little scared of uncertainty; we might get what we demand, but freedom will be chaotic at the beginning.”
The days of protest and repression have mostly been about the Shiites speaking up and the Sunnis cracking down. But on Monday night, in the wealthy neighborhood of Juffair, tens of thousands of pro-government demonstrators poured into Al Fateh Grand Mosque to express their support for the embattled king.
The pro-government crowd borrowed some of the opposition’s slogans, including “no Sunni, no Shia, only Bahraini.” But that was where the call for unity started and ended.
This was an affluent crowd, far different from the mostly low-income Shiites who took to the streets to demand a constitutional monarchy, an elected government and a representative Parliament. The air was scented with perfume, and people drove expensive cars. In a visceral demonstration of the distance between Sunni and Shiite, the crowd cheered a police helicopter that swooped low, a symbol of the heavy-handed tactics that have been used to intimidate the Shiites.
“We love King Hamad and we hate chaos,” said Hannan al-Abdallah, 22, as she joined the pro-government rally. “This is our country and we’re looking after it.”
Ali al-Yaffi, 29, drove to the pro-government demonstration with friends in his shiny white sport utility vehicle. He was angry and distrustful. “The democracy they have been asking for is already here,” he said. “But the Shias, they have their ayatollahs, and whatever they say, they will run and do it. If they tell them to burn a house, they will. I think they have a clear intention to disrupt this country.”
On that point there is agreement: the Shiite opposition does want to disrupt, but with peaceful protests aimed at achieving its demands. The public here has learned the lessons of Egypt’s popular uprising and the power of peaceful opposition.
“I feel freedom like I never felt it in my life, but I’m also a little worried,” said Hussein al-Haddad, 32, as he marched with the Shiite protesters on Tuesday. “What is going to happen next?”
Last Monday, Shiites tried to hold a “day of rage,” modeled on the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt that forced out autocratic presidents. The police gave no ground, firing on crowds with tear gas and rubber bullets and leaving one man dead, shot in the back. The next day, at the funeral, another man was killed the same way.
The protesters marched into Pearl Square, the symbolic center of Manama, the capital, and set up camp. In the early morning hours, the police raided the camp, killing three men. Then on Friday, a group of unarmed protesters tried to march into the square. The army opened fire, and one young man, Abdul Redha Mohammed Hassan, was left with a bullet in his head. He died Monday and was buried Tuesday.
The army’s attack on unarmed civilians shocked even the government’s supporters, and the military was withdrawn. The demonstrators poured back in, setting up a camp and a speaker’s podium and making it clear that they would not leave until their demands were met. The first demand, now, is the dissolution of the government and an agreement to create a constitutional monarchy.
“They are the ones who made the demands grow bigger,” said Mohammed al-Shakhouri, 51, as he watched a procession of thousands follow the coffin of Mr. Hassan to the cemetery for burial.
The government seems to have accepted that violence will not silence the opposition and has shifted its strategy. It has set up a press center to get its message out and is working with a public relations firm.
The opposition has stuck with its tactic of peaceful protest. On Tuesday, the Shiite political parties, chief among them Al Wefaq, called for the demonstration to start at the Bahrain mall and march into Pearl Square. Even the organizers were surprised as turnout swelled, packing the eastbound side of the highway from the mall to the square.
“It is a revolution,” said Hussein Mohammed, 37, a bookstore owner and volunteer for Al Wefaq. “It is a big revolution. It is unbelievable.”

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lolz! Media's reports are not based on 100% reality. Have u forgotten the case of 'Ajmal Kasab' who was he paki or indian? some media declared him as paki and some others denier him as paki.

Nothing more to share. U guyz enjoy. :)

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[admin]Keep it civil[/admin]

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Sorry about that. Emotions can go pretty high when you have posters supporting an outdated system of monarchy which indiscriminately kills innocent men, women, and children, including a 2 year old girl. Im just quite surprised that one of these monarchy supporters is a moderator. But yes, in the future, I won't personally attack people who enjoy it when innocent protesters are killed.

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Wait wait wait wait…are you seriously trying to prove that Shias are the minority in Bahrain through the number of seats Al Wefaq won? I don’t know how anyone can take you seriously after this post.

Al Wefaq only contested 18 seats, and guess what? They won all 18 handily, including almost all the seats in Manama and the northern governorate. I have no doubt that if they contested more seats they would have the majority in parliament(though I also have no doubt that the Khalifas would blatantly fix the elections in that case). Independents have the second highesty minority in government, and the largest percentage of their seats came from the sparsely populated southern governorate where Al Wefaq did not contest any seats.

Anyways, pretty sure I don’t want to hear any Bahraini history from you as it would most certainly be full of holes and lies. And I would much rather trust information from sources such as the British FCO or western news sources(other than Fox news) than from you.

And don’t try to push the Prophet(pbuh) and Allah(swt) into this discussion and onto me, instead push the morals of Islam onto yourself since you have no fear of Allah as you’re quite content in openly spreading misinformation and lies. You are the only person in this world who I have heard claim that Shias are not the majority in Bahrain, I’ve even spoken to hardcore Bahraini Salafis/Wahabbis who have conceded that Shias are the majority.

If I wanted to read stuff copy and pasted from the CIA world factbook, I would go there myself thank you very much.

And I’ve been to Bahrain when I used to live in Saudi Arabia, beautiful country and great people(much more polite than Saudis), and I think those same people deserve to determine their own government, not be ruled by some self righteous “king” who has done nothing to deserve his rule except be born to the right person at the right time.

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For your kind info: First i'm just like u guyz a common guppiy (user) who share his view just like others guppies (users) then a moderator. Being moderator it doesn't mean that i'm free to do whatever as it please to me. So plz! keep my modship out of this topic as Brother ehsan said! 'keep it civil'.

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Are you for real or are you trying to be deliberately ignorant?

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Whats the latest from Bahrain...?