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Yes, do you remember that they ran through the check point ignoring warnings?
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Not according to the reporters there, just the US soldiers who then lauded the act as absolutely the right thing to do. Child murderers.
It would have been helpful to the deceased had the US given some basic training on the minor differences in gestures.
Apparently a Palm faced forward is 'welcome' in Arab culture. To stop you have to wave your arm up and down, which the marines obviously didn't know.
but who the heck cares.. just some Eye-Rackis got charred.. serves them right to be born over our oil.
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Yes, do you remember that they ran through the check point ignoring warnings?
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No warning was released in time, according to one of the American officials who witnessed the incident first-hand. There was a link about this in one of the other threads, (an interview done by the Washington Post).
Another example of where US occupation forces have killed Iraqi babies, and not apologised for it:-
On 8 April, three weeks into the invasion, the Americans dropped four 2,000lb bombs on the Baghdad residential area of Mansur. They claimed they thought Saddam was hiding there. They knew they would kill civilians because it was not, as one Centcom mandarin said, a “risk free venture” (sic). So they dropped their bombs and killed 14 civilians in Mansur, most of them members of a Christian family. The Americans said they couldn’t be sure they had killed Saddam until they could carry out forensic tests at the site. But this turns out to have been a lie. I went there two days ago. Not a single US or British official had bothered to visit the bomb craters. Indeed, when I arrived, there was a putrefying smell and families pulled the remains of a baby from the rubble. No American officers have apologised for this appalling killing. And I can promise them that the baby I saw being placed under a sheet of black plastic was very definitely not Saddam Hussein. Had they bothered to look at this place – as they claimed they would – they would at least have found the baby. Now the craters are a place of pilgrimage for the people of Baghdad.
http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=397925
No wonder the people are seething with anger towards the US.
^ Oh please people...you are all pretending like the Americans would give an ant's behind what happens to these people. Have you seen the latest copy of TIME? Have you read how matter of factly the reporter describes the marines shooting two children? No remorse no sadness no emotion...( if there was any it seemed like it was admiration for the marksman ship of the Marines). And that was it two children were "met by a wall of lead" nothing else. 2 children were worth half a page. Contrast that with the four page story of poor little Janny who only watches Cartoon Network because that is the only channel that doesen't bring up 9/11 and remind her how her father died.
i agree with Mufakkar. This is the first time i am reading of this Iraqi baby who died when four 2000lb. bombs were dropped on Mansur (infact, that's the first time i have even heard the name of a place in Iraq called Mansur). Why do individuals wonder why there is so much bitterness and resentment towards the US government - can they not imagine how we would feel when the lives of Iraqi children are given such minimal value ?
No word of explanation - let alone apology - from the US or UK forces. What is this baby's family supposed to draw as a conclusion from this incident? That their lives occupy one of the lowest rungs on the social hierarchy, right next to Palestinians perhaps. More incidents such as this, and there can be no better recruiting call for al Qaeda.
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**And I can promise them that the baby I saw being placed under a sheet of black plastic was very definitely not Saddam Hussein. Had they bothered to look at this place – as they claimed they would – they would at least have found the baby*.
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B.S.
U.S. has always warned of civilian casualties and spoke of regrets.
Please do not believe as if the U.S. would happily harm a child. I think you know that isn't true.
What kind of person would do such a thing?
I seriously doubt even.. Al Quada would happily harm a child.
^ As somebody who has worn the colours, I can tell you that Armies around the world have traditions based on valor and sacrifice that guide thier conduct in war. Soldiers are taught (usually) to realize that they being in uniform have to place thier country's defence and all civilians above themselves. Just because soldiers carry weapons, it does not give them carte blanche to extinguish all life. Even in war, we were taught (full points to the British military traditions) that lethal force was the last possible, least pallatable option especially so against armed civilians. I will post the story I quote above and then maybe you will see how the eagerness of the American military to use lethal force against two children was improper to say the least. Like it or not the US military does not have good traditions as far as preservation of civilian life is concerned. I am not talking about precision weapons, rather the wilful use of lethal force against civilians for whatever reason.
Echoes of these sentiments are appearing everywhere, at least in media outlets not based in North America.
This occupation is a disaster. The US must leave - and fast, Jonathan Steele
The Guardian, 21 April 2003
People point to the fact that the oil ministry was the only government office in Baghdad that the US did not bomb and protected from looters by planting a ring of troops around it on day one of "liberation".
How telling...