Bacon more Haraam, or Alcohol???

Edit: Even my keyboard is being pigaphobic, the title should have been “What’s more Haraam, Pork or Alochol???”

I know some guys who’ll guzzle down pint after pint of beer or vodka yet when it comes to a nicely cured and smoked rasher of bacon they are like so pigaphobic.

Or take American Muslims who’ll quite happily eat dead meat of unslaughtered animals yet they have a problem with pork.

Beats me. :konfused:

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haram is haram. there is no level to haramness

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Really? Then why does Allah condemn some things more often than others in the Qur'aan?

Shirk for example is worse than any other sin so I assume it's mentioned most often. That leads to another question, why are Paki peoples priorities so mixed up? They wont eat pork yet they wont have a problem with asking Shah Rukn-e-Alam for a son or something? Praying to other than God, a sin He will never forgive.

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this isnt even a question if you are a God fearing Muslim..both are bad..never tried it and never will

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Shirk has been regarded by Allah as 'zulmun azeem', its not biggest sin because of its 'frequency' in Quran.

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Hope the following helps:

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2:173 He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of Allah. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless. For Allah is Oft-forgiving Most Merciful.
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5:3 **Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah. **that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
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6:145 Say: "I find not in the message received by me by inspiration any (meat) forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it, unless it be dead meat, or blood poured forth, or the flesh of swine,- for it is an abomination - or, what is impious, (meat) on which a name has been invoked, other than Allah's". But (even so), if a person is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- thy Lord is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
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hmm, ignorance perhaps?

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if u expand ur question and ask y do muslims all over follow some rules and not others u will find each n every one has his/her own religious or moral code.even members of the same family/home will have different n unique moral/religious codes.

jo aasani say ho jata hay usually loag kar laitay hain ,baqi ki excuses hain sab kay pass.

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If someone drinks, but doesnt eat pork, it does not mean they are consuming one or staying away from the other because of the belief that it is haraam. It may simply be that pork repulses them whereas alcohol does not. I dont think it's a religious issue for them, but more of a personal preference that they indulge in one haram act and refrain from the other.

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If one looks deep in the above post, it seems very very true. Ma Mooli is right. Imaan requires you to stay away from ALL haraam regardless of the degree. If one drinks and stay away from pork then it is a matter of feeling nausiatic than religious. I have seen people staying away from pork than drinking alcohol more often than not.

In the end, every thing counts to the level of Iman one may have.

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Islam is quite practical. There are negative consequences of alcohol, and therefore you should stay away from it. There are negative consequences to pork, hence why you should stay away from it.

Perhaps why people are more willing to drink alcohol than eat pork, is because most muslims know that alcohol was banned during the time of the Prophet. Before Mohammed (SAW), alcohol was allowed, and other prophets have drank it in moderation. However, pig has always been prohibited in Abrahamic religions at least (hard to say for other messengers Allah has sent, since the Abrahamic ones are practiced still today).

Interestingly, Pakistanis have recently been highly indulgent in eating meats (red meat, white meat, etc). What they don't realize is that pigging out so much and eating so much food, especially meat, is not good for your health. If we go by the Sunnah of the Prophet and also by the edict in Islam that one should take care of one's health, since our body is a gift from God, then one would think gorging on steaks or 5-10 kababs at a dawat would also be a sign of low Iman.

Have you been to a "Food street" in Pakistan? Its pretty sad, that eating has become an entertainment for Pakistanis.

The other day, I was watching this cooking show, and the cook made nargissi kababs. Gigantic ones, by the way, I've never seen them so big. Do you know what that woman says? She says these will make great appetizers. I mean, what the hell, am I to eat a whole goat for dinner, then?

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^ :rotfl: at the coooking lady sentence.. :smiley:

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i'll help you with my wisdom Prince....
I used to drink....past tense....and never ate pork. Why?

Well it's simple....people who drink know its wrong ........ the individual knows that he/she is in a hole.....now if you started eating pork as well then you have just dug yourself a deeper hole.......different people fall to different levels...depending on the person....point being ..... it provides hope...this subconsciously is what holds people back.

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Yes, and non-zabiyah meat is totally haraam, no question about it. Those that eat it are sinning.

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That is correct.

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Really? can you pass the reference info?

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people have told me that they consume alcohol knowing full well its haraam... but they get a buzz/ high out of it

they dont eat pork because it doesnt offer them any other pleasure other than filling their belly, a hot dog can be substituted quite easily by a halaal lamburger

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“obsession” should also be regarded as “haram” :hehe: becharay Pakistani “entertainment” ke liye khana bhee nahi khaa saktay. Ek taraf Pakistanis “entertainment starved” hayn, doosri taraf “food entertainment” ek burai :smack:

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*oh baba wen u abuse u say ''pig'' u dont say ''sharabi''.u say sharabi and all u get is a sharminda smile.and a pig looks ugly while a bottle does not.u can also hide a pig in ur pocket,i mean u can hide a bottle in ur pocket and go anywhere.u can get drunk n pass out but u cant meat out, u can gtet ur women to drink it by mixing it in coca cola, u can go to seaside alone n take a bottle with u whereas wat wud u do with a huge steak there?u drink more of it and it starts talking to u while a steak wont ever do that however much u eat it. there r sooooooooo many reasons.u want to flatter a woman u compare her to fine wine ,u want to piss someone off u call her/him wine but add the prefix of 's' to that wine etc.u have connoisseurs for wines but people dont go aropund tasting pigs [not that i know of] keh ahh finest snout from the mid 90s ,or this pickeled foot has such a playful woody,dungy taste..drinking is also linked to a 'nakam aashiq' which is very popular,its ur substitue love.its also associated with creativity.wen u drink n release the fumes u r regarded as a 'man' who can hold his drink.however musical ur fart or burp maybe after u gorge urself on pork nobody is gonna be impressed.
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