Australian pilot gives thumbs down to US bombing order

Note that Australia operates under “a tougher set of rules of engagement” than the US - reason for this being that it “has ratified more international agreements than Washington”.

Australian pilot gives thumbs down to US bombing order
Greg Ansley, New Zealand Herald, 24 March 2003

CANBERRA - An Australian FA/18 Hornet pilot has refused an American command to bomb a target in Iraq in the first conflict between the different rules governing the way the two allies make war. Although Prime Minister John Howard said the incident during the coalition’s drive towards Baghdad was not evidence of tension between the two commands, the prospect of a clash of rules was clear from the start.

Australia operates under a tougher set of rules of engagement than the US because Canberra has ratified more international agreements than Washington.

The refusal of the RAAF pilot to release his precision-guided bombs came as:

  • Australian Navy boarding parties captured three Iraqi dhows loaded with 86 mines and a “wide array of military weapons” as their crews tried to slip through the coalition blockade to seed the top of the Gulf with sophisticated Manta acoustic and other floating mines.

  • SAS soldiers, after a number of firefights over the weekend, called down an air strike on an Iraqi command and control base suspected of being involved in the launching of ballistic missiles.

  • At home, tens of thousands of demonstrators rallied against the war, despite a poll showing opposition to Australian involvement had significantly weakened since the conflict started, with opinion now almost evenly divided.

The decision of the RAAF pilot not to attack an Iraqi target was taken when his Hornet, armed with a range of strike weapons, was ordered away from the round-the-clock escort missions the Australians have been flying since war started.

However, the crew chose not to complete the mission because they could not positively identify the target,” Defence Force spokesman Brigadier Mike Hannan said. “The crew’s decision reflects the ADF’s strong commitment to the laws of armed conflict and its support of the Government’s targeting policy, right down to the lowest levels.”

**The rules under which Australians are fighting in Iraq are governed by Australian and international law, the 1949 Geneva Convention, and additional 1977 protocols that the US has not signed.

A range of weapons in the American arsenal - such as landmines and cluster bombs - are banned by Australia, and Canberra has emphasised that its forces will refuse to attack civilian targets, including key bridges, dams and other vital infrastructure of the kind bombed by the US in the 1991 Gulf War.**

Australia has also emphasised that its troops remain strictly under national command, but Brigadier Hannan said the final choice of whether or not to attack was a decision made by “ordinary young Australians, often in a split second, that they will have to live with for the rest of their lives”.

“The rules are all well and good, and they are important and necessary, but they are not of themselves sufficient to ensure that the laws of armed conflict are upheld and targeting policy is implemented.” He said such decisions were made by young pilots flying at very high speed, often at night.

“In this case the pilot … decided that the information didn’t support the justification for the use of the weapon and aborted the mission.”

So, the Australians are a bit more selective in conducting "slaughter". Brilliant.

The killer who will kill all by himself, and absolutely not when told to by the U.S. is now a hero. Positively twisted.

By every measure of your past resoning,any coalition member at odds with Iraq should be the target of your ire. Disobedience to the U.S. is clearly the most important message here, irrespective of the fact that the Australian air force will drop bombs in Iraq with the possibility of killing people there.

The lengths you will go to exonerate any party under any circumstance, so long as the U.S. gets sufficiently "faced". Good heavens, the thought process!

:smack: i don’t even know where to begin, my dear Storch.

>>Disobedience to the U.S. is clearly the most important message here…<<
Did i state that in my post? i am not supporting the actions of this pilot merely because he disobeyed US orders to shoot the target. i am supporting his actions because he disobeyed based upon the reason that he was uncertain of the positive identification of the target - in other words he did not feel confident that the target had been sufficiently identified; it could have been anything - a school, or an orphanage, or a water treatment plant. There is a difference between disobeying just for the reason that it was an American order, and disobeying for a valid reason such as this one (in my opinion).

i even italicized this in my original post - i italicized it in bold and italics: "However, the crew chose not to complete the mission because they could not positively identify the target". Disobeying for the heck of it, versus disobeying for a valid reason such as this one - big difference atleast in my opinion.

I do apologise for being such a burr, but you and I agree on the particulars of your post. i.e. don’t put civilians in harm’s way if you can help it. What I’m taking issue with is that generally speaking I would expect you to regard all coalition military as illegally taking part in this war-this war you have implied is a war on Iraq and Iraqi civilians. But you have not taken Australia to task for participating in this conflict, you rather use the Australian story to suggest that wherever one may look one can find something that puts the U.S. in a poor light. Nevermind that the Australians may indeed kill Iraqis, but at least for now they continue to prove a thesis that says: All are morally superior to the U.S.

i’m the most annoying “burr”, so no apologies needed. :flower1: Regarding your comment above - that’s a very valid statement. i apologize.

i acknowledge that PM John Howard and his government are as guilty of committing an illegal invasion against Iraq, as the US and UK are. i would go so far as to argue that this is a war crime and Australia is fully and thoroughly complicit in these acts. Infact, even the Canadian government - which i tend to praise a bit too much - has frigates and some personnel in the Arabian Gulf to assist the US government (over the embargo), so they are implicitly supporting US policies vis-a-vis Iraq. i think that is wrong of the Canadian government as well. Regarding your statement that “All are morally superior to the U.S.” - i am not certain how to respond to this, because i have very deep-seated feelings over the embargo that has been sustained by the US for the better part of 12, almost 13 years. Be that as it may - no country (including Muslim countries) is perfect; i have often criticized Arab governments although probably not as often as i should. i apologize for that.

I think I feel better…you’re impossible to stay frustrated with for long. I shall hound you no longer and am sorry for being too persistent and personal at times.

I don’t know…maybe I’ll hound you again in a week. Bye.

Also good job to the Aussies for holding questionable fire. (that’s on topic I think)

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:D

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:~) Yes i think that is on topic.