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Let me get this straight:
Everything Australian do is simply out of the world.
-Every innings they drop catches, been happenning since last year but its still ‘unusual’. Hayden alone did the ‘unusual’ bit thrice today.

  • Whenever Pakistani Batsmen hit sixes off warne or spank boundaries, its a good shot but whenever Aussies hit em they are unbelievable and ‘superb’

Apart from Ian Chappell and to some extent Bill Lawry, rest are biased to the hilt. Yes I am including Benaud and Greg as well. Australians are best in the world but they ARE humans.

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Richi Benaud is absolutly useless. No emotions whatsoever.
Tony Grieg, Ian Healy have done well.

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Chappel used to be my favourite but now I think he's ok, not very good .

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*Originally posted by umair_ahmed: *
Richi Benaud is absolutly useless. No emotions whatsoever.
Tony Grieg, Ian Healy have done well.
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They ahve done well, praising australiains needlessly on every possible oppurtunity.

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*Healy is a prejudiced, shmucky little pr*ck. Always has been, ever since he started commentating. Benaud needs to retire(will be doing that in 2007, I think). Mark Taylor, Ian Chappell and Bill Lawry are quite fine to be honest. *

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you should have listened to abc commentators where one of them was comparing the aussie team to glen close in fatal attraction. Hilaraious bit. Aussies are always breathing underwater and what not....

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*Originally posted by the game: *
*Healy is a prejudiced, shmucky little pr*ck. Always has been, ever since he started commentating. Benaud needs to retire(will be doing that in 2007, I think). Mark Taylor, Ian Chappell and Bill Lawry are quite fine to be honest. *
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People, That Is All?

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*Originally posted by cHEeGUm: *

People, That Is All?
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Yes, yes People. Healy is a shmuck. That Is All.

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Re: Australian channel commentators

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*Originally posted by saby: *
Let me get this straight:
Everything Australian do is simply out of the world.
-Every innings they drop catches, been happenning since last year but its still 'unusual'. Hayden alone did the 'unusual' bit thrice today.
- Whenever Pakistani Batsmen hit sixes off warne or spank boundaries, its a good shot but whenever Aussies hit em they are unbelievable and 'superb'

Apart from Ian Chappell and to some extent Bill Lawry, rest are biased to the hilt. Yes I am including Benaud and Greg as well. Australians are best in the world but they ARE humans.
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Yes they are not super humans but they are far better than most of the humans they have faced on the ground in last 5 years. No one would question the talent of this Australian team but it not about talent only. The true character of a team is well measured by its performance in crisis and this Australian team has shown it several times. It showed its character in Sri-Lanka last year in a best possible way. They were behind after the completion of fist innings in all three test matches, yet ended up winning all three. What I am trying to say is that when one of the Aussies commentators says:

“Shoiab has taken three wickets today and boy….they are not just three wickets…he got hayden, ponting and lehman”….

don’t get upset and try to understand the statement in its true perspective….

You are upset that aussies applaud their “minor” achievements too much and neglect our “major” ones….well, it is because Pakistanis show sparks of brilliance here and there where as their opponents have shown it on a regular basis. Here is how Osman Samiuddin has summarized it in the best possible way at Cricinfo:

“Today, Martyn was as stylish as Youhana was yesterday, but there was a correctness, a realness about it that comes from having done it on more than one occasion.”

Honestly with Benaud an exception, others have given Pakistan team its due credit on several occasions. At least for 10 times, and I repeat it 10 times, Ian chapel and Tony openly criticized the umpire for not giving Clarke OUT against Sami twice. Both of them openly said so many times that he was plumb OUT. Ian, thereafter, discussed Sami in detail in a best professional way throwing light on his failure as a main front line bowler.

And Here is what Bill Lawry said about danish:

“Danish is prolly the best new leg spinner we have seen from an opposition in so many years”

Mark Taylor have said so many good things about salman Butt. Ian Healy loved the tussle between Shoaib and langer yesterday and he urged the match referee not to be harsh on Shoaib. And the list goes on and on. Yes there would be some bias but then who does not have it. In essence, I have found Aussie commentators fair and square for most of the times…….We Pakistanis have the tendency to bring in the racial card too often and in my opinion this is another way of hiding our weakness behind the curtains. Just play hard on ground all the times and even Benaud will start praising you……

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As Faizy puts it...'har sher ke kuttay wale din aate hain' :D Its other way around for the Aussies. So these are 'sher wale din' for them. Let them roar (or bark as it suites best on these blondies) for once. The arrogance itself will take its toll very soon (in two years time) as others have started rebuilding their teams on the same standards as these kangroos. We need to wait for atlest two more years to see Pak, WI, Saffies and Britts bounce back. Then there will no more one mighty show but some top 6 teams competing on the same level as it was in mid and late 80s when almost all the teams were beatable and there was no clear dominant power.

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I totally agree with Progressive desi, I watched all the match and I think they praised for our players countless time. I think we need to be a bit more fair with commentators. They praised Yohana's captaincy, Shoaib's bowling, Salman butts batting, Danish's bowling so many times.

Well we need to give credit where its due. The definately mentioned regarding Clark's not out wrong decision, Yasir Hameed's wrong LBW out, Well what else we expect?

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My apologize, I meant was phonexdesi :-) Not progressivedesi.....

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Re: Re: Australian channel commentators

:k:
This is called ADD.

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Your point of Aussie commentators being prejudiced towards non-aussies is absolutely rubbish and baseless. I have been listening to them (Channel 9) for ages and have never felt it. (Radio Australia is a different matter, though). Theynot only appreciate strong oppostions but actually want Aussies to be challenged by them. it can only provide competitive cricket which is good for the game (and for them as more people would tune in to watch stronger oppostions versus aaaussies taking on say Bangladesh).

Ian Chappel, Tony Greh, Richie Benaud, Mark Taylor, Ian Healey and Bill Lawry are all PROFESSIONALS. For you to say that they don't praise Pakistanis, well let's get real they haven't done anything to be praised for except an odd performance here and there. From 300 for 3 to 341 all out ain't something to wet your pants for.

PS. Mark Nicholas is a chutiya and I am hoping you didn't form your opinion based on his stupid sensational commentary.

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PS. Yeah, I am still pissed at you calling babaa-e-cricket Richie Benaud a racist. This so called "racist' picked a Pakistani, West Indian and an Indian player in his World XI of all times.

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PS. Yeah, I am still pissed at you calling babaa-e-cricket Richie Benaud a racist. This so called "racist' picked a Pakistani, West Indian and an Indian player in his World XI of all times.
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First of all, paste my post here and tell me where did I imply that Benaud is 'racist'? So your second post is void. There is a difference between 'biased' and 'racist' and I think you are mature enough to realize that. But you can stay pissed for as long as you want.

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PD-- Nice post indeed. But you hit the nail in the head whn you said that who isnt biased. I did not argue for one moment that Australians are better than us. The first point in my post was regardng dropped catches for example. Aussies dropped catches against india, new zealand, Pakistan, Sri lanka etc. They still take best slip catches and still beat all those teams, that speaks for their higher level but what makes me wonder is commentators mentioning 'unusual' everytime it happens.
This is kinda usual now but for them it isnt and will not be. One more thing I would like to add that SAfricans fielding was once hailed as the best in the world but in one match against Australia they dropped Mark Waugh six times in crucial second innings and since then they were not best fielding side anymore in space of one match, and I vidily remember Benaud wrote an article about their detoriarating (sp?) fielding standards immediately after that series. Well everyone highlights issues according to their preferences. Their team is indeed the best and they can get away with it.

I am in agreement with you over Mark Taylor and Bill Lawry though. I might have got carried away with Bill bit but forgot to mention Taylor. He is fine indeed. Marck Nicholoas and Waqar are misfits in company of these experienced ones.

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*Originally posted by saby: *
PD-- Nice post indeed. But you hit the nail in the head whn you said that who isnt biased. I did not argue for one moment that Australians are better than us. The first point in my post was regardng dropped catches for example. Aussies dropped catches against india, new zealand, Pakistan, Sri lanka etc. They still take best slip catches and still beat all those teams, that speaks for their higher level but what makes me wonder is commentators mentioning 'unusual' everytime it happens.
This is kinda usual now but for them it isnt and will not be. One more thing I would like to add that SAfricans fielding was once hailed as the best in the world but in one match against Australia they dropped Mark Waugh six times in crucial second innings and since then they were not best fielding side anymore in space of one match, and I vidily remember Benaud wrote an article about their detoriarating (sp?) fielding standards immediately after that series. Well everyone highlights issues according to their preferences. Their team is indeed the best and they can get away with it.

I am in agreement with you over Mark Taylor and Bill Lawry though. I might have got carried away with Bill bit but forgot to mention Taylor. He is fine indeed. Marck Nicholoas and Waqar are misfits in company of these experienced ones.
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Yes I agree with you that aussies tend to "soften up" their mistakes but I think right now aussies are in love with this team...after all this team is considered to be one of the best Australian teams of all time (arguably).....but don’t u think that it is natural...remember all Hoooo Haaaa cricinfo made when pathan took three 5s-for against BD......

However, you made a valid point about waqar younis's ability as a commentator. he really disappointed me. Ian chappel and bill lawry tried to engage him so many times by asking him intriguing questions but the response was dull, too brief and without any depth. Waqar should realize that at the international level, you have to be aggressive, informative and innovative to keep your position. He is not bad. He speaks good English with nice accent but that particular spark is missing which he used to produce when the ball use to be in his hand.Come on waqieeee you can do better than that,…we all love you…….

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*Originally posted by phoenixdesi: *

.....However, you made a valid point about waqar younis's ability as a commentator. he really disappointed me. Ian chappel and bill lawry tried to engage him so many times by asking him intriguing questions but the response was dull, too brief and without any depth. Waqar should realize that at the international level, you have to be aggressive, informative and innovative to keep your position. He is not bad. He speaks good English with nice accent but that particular spark is missing which he used to produce when the ball use to be in his hand.Come on waqieeee you can do better than that,…we all love you…….
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Generally Pakistani commentators are harsh on their team when sitting with the opposition experts. Ramiz and Mohsin used to do the same (though I still think Ramiz is the best Pakistani commentator). Here is a dialog from the first day of second test, between Waqar and and Aussie commentator whose name has slipped off my mind. This is not an exact replica but the discussion went like this:

Aussie: Waqar! why does Warne has such a wonderful record against Pakistan.

Waqar: Warne is a great bowler

Aussie: Pakistanis have produced good leg spinners like Intikhab Alam, Mushtaq, Abdul Qadir.... so why don't Pak batsmen play Warne so well.

Waqar: Warne is a great bowler.

Aussie: But Abdul Qadir was a great bowler too.

Waqar: Warne is a totally different class. He is ..... blah blah.

Aussie: So how come the other sub continent team (Indians) play him so well.

Waqar: This is because Indians batsmen are great.

Probably Waqar needs to put some thinking and some expression in his comments.

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what are u on about man? I think they are some of the best commentators i,ve listened to.... I have never felt that they are biased... I reckon they are great commentators, and know the game well... I am amazed at benaud's cricketing knowledge... and he might not expressions, but he knows what hes talking about. healy, chappel and co, i reckon are all great to listen to....